How do YOU run your steroid cycles for Powerlifting?

[Worf]

I've run it with tren a couple times, couldn't really tell it added much. Actually I think it was you I was talking to about mast awhile back. I read on other forums it helped with aggression and strength, but I didn't notice it. I guess I need to run it with test alone sometime and see how it does.

Yep, it was me. I’ve herd different things about mast for strength. Some say it’s great, others say they don’t get much from it. Some guys say it’s amazing but they were using it along with tren in a blend. I have some , might have a go with it to see what it does for me

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Yep, it was me. I’ve herd different things about mast for strength. Some say it’s great, others say they don’t get much from it. Some guys say it’s amazing but they were using it along with tren in a blend. I have some , might have a go with it to see what it does for me

I guess it's related to Anavar and that works great for strength for me, so maybe worth another shot. You ever heard people talk about insulin for strength? I've seen it mentioned before and it also gets completely mixed reviews.

 

[Worf]

I guess it's related to Anavar and that works great for strength for me, so maybe worth another shot. You ever heard people talk about insulin for strength? I've seen it mentioned before and it also gets completely mixed reviews.

Yea, both DHT’s. I’ve herd people using insulin for size in bodybuilding for sure but can’t say I’ve herd of anyone using in PL’ing. Only thing I’ve read about strength increases from slin were in guys who were otherwise hard gainers and put on 10-15 lbs. So it’s probably more a result of the Water weight and over all size increase and not so much the slin.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Yea, both DHT’s. I’ve herd people using insulin for size in bodybuilding for sure but can’t say I’ve herd of anyone using in PL’ing. Only thing I’ve read about strength increases from slin were in guys who were otherwise hard gainers and put on 10-15 lbs. So it’s probably more a result of the Water weight and over all size increase and not so much the slin.

I could see that. Like water weight from deca and mk 677 making strength go up more than the actual compounds themselves.

 

[StrengthReaper]

A lot of the guys that don't post anymore ran EQ, too. I always wondered about it, but stay away because of the potential anxiety sides.

I love EQ for strength cycle. It is slow acting so it is moderate gains which don't trigger tendon stress as much with healing properties. Take anxiety in same context as tren for rage. Some people have it some don't. I believe it is how you are mentally without any gear and dose depending. I'd definitely give it a shot at a moderate dose for a decent period of time. Did a 20 week run with test/eq,added tren at the last 8 weeks and man those last 8 weeks was interesting. I believe the EQ was only 400mg/week.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I love EQ for strength cycle. It is slow acting so it is moderate gains which don't trigger tendon stress as much with healing properties. Take anxiety in same context as tren for rage. Some people have it some don't. I believe it is how you are mentally without any gear and dose depending. I'd definitely give it a shot at a moderate dose for a decent period of time. Did a 20 week run with test/eq,added tren at the last 8 weeks and man those last 8 weeks was interesting. I believe the EQ was only 400mg/week.

Yeah, I get no mental sides at all on tren. No insomnia either. I'm prone to anxiety, too. That's what's kept me from trying EQ, that and the hematocrit thing. I might have to try low dosing it sometime.

 

[StrengthReaper]

Yeah, I get no mental sides at all on tren. No insomnia either. I'm prone to anxiety, too. That's what's kept me from trying EQ, that and the hematocrit thing. I might have to try low dosing it sometime.

Honestly I went to donate blood on like the 17th week for the first time and my hematocrit was at a 53. So a low dose shouldn't really harm you. I have had some really bad anxiety moments and I don't really get them on gear for some reason. They seem to hit me the most when I'm off. Everyone reacts differently though. I never got night sweats or insomnia either on tren, but I never really passed 400mg a/e/h mix.

 

[amtont]

Enjoyed reading this thread. On another board someone who trains with Dan Green, Stan Efferding and Brandon Lilly posted these cycles they ran. Would be interested to hear peoples opinions

''Dan Green apparently tuns 3 grams test e, 1 gram mast, 1 gram tren ace, 1 gram eq and 100mg var daily. I have it from very reliable sources Malanichev does 500-1000mg test e and gh and that's it. Odell Manuel (look him up) does 750mg test E and 50mg dbol ed (I know this 100%). Lilliebridges run 5000mg +."

"Stan Efferding is ranked #1 in the world at 275 with a 2,303 RAW total and Eric Spoto is #1 in the bench press with a 722 RAW bench press. We just added Brittany Pryor to the mix she's ranked #2 in the USA with a 1300 RAW total 479.5 sqaut, 292.1 bench and a 529 deadlift...she's pulled 545.5 but they red lighted her yesterday ?? We've trained with Dan "the man" Green as well Oleskii Omelchenko, the reason i say all of this is because I KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I"M TALKING ABOUT !!! what i'm about to say isn't opinion...IT'S FACT !!!

Typical Cycle is something like this:

1000mg of Test (Cyp, Enanthate, Blend)
600-1000mg of Deca
600-1000mg of EQ
Some type of oral (D-bol, Anadrol) if not both

Other drugs used:

Tren is used A LOT !!! 700mg-1500mg (just depends on the lifter)
Halotestin is used as well, anywhere from 3-4 weeks out from a meet dosage is really tricky, some people are super sensitive to this drug.
Test Suspension works very well, 3-4 weeks out from meet as well. (dosage is anywhere from 350mg-700mg a week)
Winstrol frees up SHBG, anywhere from 50mg-100mg daily 2-3 weeks at a time. Maybe like 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. Keep running it like this for the whole cycle.

Point of the story is it's not that hard, EAT A LOT, train your ass off !!! Get plenty of sleep and be consistent and you'll grow like a weed and be strong as FUCK !!!"

"Brandon Lilly posted the following cycle in his cube method beta test:
Weeks 1-6
Testosterone Cypionate: 500-600mg taken 250/300mg on Monday and Thursday
Nandrolone Decanoate or Boldenone Undecanoate: 300mg taken 150mg on Monday and Thursday
Anavar: 50mg per day

Weeks 7-10
Testosterone Cypionate: 1000-1200mg taken 500/600mg on Monday and Thursday
Nandrolone Decanoate or Boldenone Undecanoate: 600mg taken 300mg on Monday and Thursday

14 days out
Add 50mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
Add 50mg dianabol a day

This isn't what he ran- but what he recommends people run.
In PL it's a lot about training on high anabolics with high volume then switching to androgens near the meet. High dosages don't really need to be ran, just enough to maintain the muscle mass you need for your weight class and enough to get you into the next class and lean you up after a meet. But lots of androgens are often used near the meet. Clint Darden recommends the following for strongmen:

4 weeks high anabolics
150mg test (low enough for dick function)
deca/dbol/eq

4 weeks high androgens
500-1500mg test
tren/anadrol/halo"

 

[amtont]

This is supposedly what Dan Green did before he broke the 242 raw record. Post from another board.

"
Week4 - Week2 - The switch from anabolics to light androgenics happens.

<1g test
<1g tren
100mg Anavar ED

Week2 - Weigh Ins - Rampup - Last heavy squat/deadlift preferably your planned openers for a double.

<1g test
1.5g - 2g tren
200mg Anavar ED
200mg Halotestin ED

After Weigh Ins - Peak

Immediately after 24 hour weigh ins*

150mg+ test no ester
150mg+ tren base
1-2mg+ Methyltrienolone
200mg Halotestin
Peptide GHRP-6
Humalog
As much food as you can possibly eat

Expect random nosebleeds this day for obvious reasons*"



Sleep whenever possible because you likely won't be able to when you actually want to*

5am: Get your shit together. Eat a small solid meal of protein/fat, want to keep blood sugar stable.
6am:

150mg Test no ester
150mg Tren Base
2mg Methyltrienolone
Adderall or other powerful focus/stimulant drug.

 

[Worf]

I’ve seen these before, can’t remember where. Shit load of gear

 

[J0han]

I’ve seen these before, can’t remember where. Shit load of gear

Seems somewhat excessive honestly.

 

[amtont]

Seems somewhat excessive honestly.

Yeah I wasn't advising it. I just thought people people might be interested to check it out.

 

[Ohiopower]

This is supposedly what Dan Green did before he broke the 242 raw record. Post from another board.

"
Week4 - Week2 - The switch from anabolics to light androgenics happens.

<1g test
<1g tren
100mg Anavar ED

Week2 - Weigh Ins - Rampup - Last heavy squat/deadlift preferably your planned openers for a double.

<1g test
1.5g - 2g tren
200mg Anavar ED
200mg Halotestin ED

After Weigh Ins - Peak

Immediately after 24 hour weigh ins*

150mg+ test no ester
150mg+ tren base
1-2mg+ Methyltrienolone
200mg Halotestin
Peptide GHRP-6
Humalog
As much food as you can possibly eat

Expect random nosebleeds this day for obvious reasons*"



Sleep whenever possible because you likely won't be able to when you actually want to*

5am: Get your shit together. Eat a small solid meal of protein/fat, want to keep blood sugar stable.
6am:

150mg Test no ester
150mg Tren Base
2mg Methyltrienolone
Adderall or other powerful focus/stimulant drug.

Too much Halo way too much. Most people cant handle 40mg ED for 3 weeks. Mixing Halo and Var no fucking way thats liver failure on fast foreward. I can see using a shit ton of Halo on meet day like 40 then another 40 and possibly another 40 if meet runs long. Save the Test no ester for meet day and pin it every time u take Halo. 50 to 100mg should do. I never tried Tren Base but can imagine it is helpful as far as dosing I would need to test it before posting.

For right after weigh in u need something that will increae your appetite and be easy on your stomach POT is good there. I can see running a nice hit of Test no ester there too 100 to 150.

The problem with Adderal on meet day is it suppresses appetite and is easy to dehydrate on. Plus it raises pulse and blood pressure. Not for me my Meth days are long over.

This is based on my experiance not something I read and regurgitated. Your experiance may vary but trust me unless you have extensive use of Halo under your belt startat 20mg ED and work up dont just start throwing down 200mg a day that is serious shit that can fuck you up. Yes I love Halo i keep it on hand at at all times but its use is very limited 1G of raw is enough for a whole year.

 

[amtont]

@Ohiopower Yeah I completely agree with you. I wasn't advising that anyone do this or trying to tell people to do it. I should have been more clear. I really just posted it because I wanted to get people's opinions if they thought he actually did this, because as you said it seemed like a ton of stuff.

You have way more experience than me so sorry if I came across like I was trying to be an expert or something. I honestly just wanted to get some more experienced peoples opinions, so I appreciate you posting.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Genetics when it comes to how many drugs you can handle seems to be a pretty big part of powerlifting and bodybuilding. I think I have decent strength genetics, but not so much tolerance for drugs. I can tolerate test and tren at higher doses, but deca and most orals don't agree with me at even moderate doses and above.

 

[Ohiopower]

@Ohiopower Yeah I completely agree with you. I wasn't advising that anyone do this or trying to tell people to do it. I should have been more clear. I really just posted it because I wanted to get people's opinions if they thought he actually did this, because as you said it seemed like a ton of stuff.

You have way more experience than me so sorry if I came across like I was trying to be an expert or something. I honestly just wanted to get some more experienced peoples opinions, so I appreciate you posting.

I didnt think u were advising anyone do that. It is highly unlikely the 200 of halo part rest is totally possible. it could been 20 of Halo then 200 on meet day which I have considered doing 150 on a meet day. broken up into 50 50 50

 

[jJjburton]

I didnt think u were advising anyone do that. It is highly unlikely the 200 of halo part rest is totally possible. it could been 20 of Halo then 200 on meet day which I have considered doing 150 on a meet day. broken up into 50 50 50

Does that much more really do anything. Seems like such overkill.

 

[Ohiopower]

Genetics when it comes to how many drugs you can handle seems to be a pretty big part of powerlifting and bodybuilding. I think I have decent strengy th genetics, but not so much tolerance for drugs. I can tolerate test and tren at higher doses, but deca and most orals don't agree with me at even moderate doses and above.

very true I can run 900 Test per week without AI and no sides. I actually crashed my E2 when I did 12.5 Aromassin EOD for a week with 900 Test C and 100 Test no ester on 4 training days.

 

[Ohiopower]

Does that much more really do anything. Seems like such overkill.

Rate of diminishsing returns probably says no. I get plenty out of 40mg every 4 hours at meets.

 

[Ohiopower]

Im surprised Cheque Drops havent been mentioned. Talk about toxic shit lol.