Home brewing worth the increased risk? Is there even any increased risk?

[BJJisLIFE]

Hey guys, I'm new to this board but long time member on others. Like most boards, raw sources are a tightly kept secret privileged only to a select few. Although recently I found out that the source I use for finished product also sells raws, so I'm thinking about giving home brewing a try. I've been wanting to try it for years since I'm on TRT and it would most certainly help with the cost, but I'm hesitant to pull the trigger because of all the years of hearing "don't do it, it's too risky" on the other boards. I'm not worried about the legitimacy of the sources product, since their finished product is probably the best I've ever used. I'm just worried about the risk. Now I know there is a risk I'm taking already with the finished product, but in your experience is there even any increased risk with home brewing? Are the fears that most people have overblown?

I appreciate your help.

 

[JC Grifter]

I’ve never actually homebrewed mostly because my wife is not 100% on board with it. However everything that I know about homebrewing, sounds like it’s the way to go. You’re in charge of how sterile everything’s going to be. You control the dose. You control the whole process from start to finish. I would love to do it one day. Especially being on trt.

 

[Villain]

Hey guys, I'm new to this board but long time member on others. Like most boards, raw sources are a tightly kept secret privileged only to a select few. Although recently I found out that the source I use for finished product also sells raws, so I'm thinking about giving home brewing a try. I've been wanting to try it for years since I'm on TRT and it would most certainly help with the cost, but I'm hesitant to pull the trigger because of all the years of hearing "don't do it, it's too risky" on the other boards. I'm not worried about the legitimacy of the sources product, since their finished product is probably the best I've ever used. I'm just worried about the risk. Now I know there is a risk I'm taking already with the finished product, but in your experience is there even any increased risk with home brewing? Are the fears that most people have overblown?

I appreciate your help.

There is risk in anything bud. Even people ordering domestic have gotten visits from postal inspectors - nothing is 100% safe. You have to decide what you’re willing to risk because you can get popped just as easily receiving some vials in the mail as you would raws.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

If your talking about increased risk vs pre made vials I would say no. Really all your doing is making a injection preperation, nothing too complex. You just have to have good sterile practice which is easy to acheive with all the resources we have

 

[Swolemonkey86]

In my opinion it opens the door for being charged with manufacturing and distribution. Not to say you can’t get in large trouble for ordering finished products however the more you order, the more trouble you can get in IF you get caught(increased number of units). I’m not sure how LE determines what personal use quantities are, but if you order raws and manufacturing equipment (sterile vials, syringe filters, solvents etc.) I assume you possibly could be charged with manuf/distr.. I’m not entirely sure on this but this is the way I’ve always looked at it.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Preparing a injection is not manufacturing and any idiot cop could surmise if your distributing. Chances are they arent even looking to prosecute a small time "home brewer". It would be a waste of their time.

 

[The Terminator]

Preparing a injection is not manufacturing and any idiot cop could surmise if your distributing. Chances are they arent even looking to prosecute a small time "home brewer". It would be a waste of their time.

Hmm I guess making crack is just preparing cocaine for smoking then right lol

 

[BJJisLIFE]

Hmm I guess making crack is just preparing cocaine for smoking then right lol

lmfao

 

[BJJisLIFE]

In my opinion it opens the door for being charged with manufacturing and distribution. Not to say you can’t get in large trouble for ordering finished products however the more you order, the more trouble you can get in IF you get caught(increased number of units). I’m not sure how LE determines what personal use quantities are, but if you order raws and manufacturing equipment (sterile vials, syringe filters, solvents etc.) I assume you possibly could be charged with manuf/distr.. I’m not entirely sure on this but this is the way I’ve always looked at it.

yeah see this is where I feel that the fear of homebrewing was overblown. If you are truly homebrewing strictly for personal use then the amount of raws that you need to order are so minuscule that it seems like it would be far more likely for a package of finished product to get flagged than a tiny package of raws. Maybe most of the horror stories that go around are of homebrewers who also sell, because they're ordering far more than whats needed for a personal homebrew.

 

[Swolemonkey86]

Well just say for example you spend $75 on 25 grams of test cyp..... that’s only 100ml worth of 250mg/ml test but it certainly can be considered “for distribution”. LE has the power to pin whatever the fuck they please on us for the most part, remember it’s up to their discretion. Based on what I’ve seen over the years, LE has pinned guys for distribution that have been caught with far less than 25grams of test cyp powder. All I’m saying is if we’re comparing buying raws to finished product, the chances getting pinned with higher charges IF caught, is much more likely when raws are involved.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Well just say for example you spend $75 on 25 grams of test cyp..... that’s only 100ml worth of 250mg/ml test but it certainly can be considered “for distribution”. LE has the power to pin whatever the fuck they please on us for the most part, remember it’s up to their discretion. Based on what I’ve seen over the years, LE has pinned guys for distribution that have been caught with far less than 25grams of test cyp powder. All I’m saying is if we’re comparing buying raws to finished product, the chances getting pinned with higher charges IF caught, is much more likely when raws are involved.

Maybe then the solution is make all your raws or hide em real well

 

[ickyrica]

Maybe then the solution is make all your raws

Yahtzee

 

[Lb187]

For me I see it as less of a risk to purchase raws. I seen enough people go down to know to get a distribution charge you have to be set up to distribute.

The average homebrewer maybe has enough raw and finished product to last the year sometimes. Not 500 g each of various raws and 50 plus vials of several different types of anabolics ready to be packaged, there's a huge difference in homebrewing and distribution resale right down to the brewing set up.

Any local or federal law enforcement agency can discern between the two.

That being said know that the risk-to-reward ratio CAN BE greater when dealing with raw products. We can all speculate with would happen but we don't know what will happen until it does.

For me personally, if I can ever avoid it I will never buy any finished product other than an AI.

 

[master.on]

You should refilter all UG gear, just in case.
Then homebrewing doesn't get much more difficult once you figured out how to filter.

 

[TRT@40]

In terms of the quality of gear, compared UGL gear, you can produce a better quality product and even get your raws tested before brewing. You are in complete control of quality.

But nothing compares to the quality of pharma grade gear since everything is of superior quality from raws to manufacturing environment.

 

[Crashbam]

Hmm I guess making crack is just preparing cocaine for smoking then right lol

Cocaine, crack, heroin, meth is a controlled substance 1, where steroids/hormone is controlled substance 3. You can still get in trouble, but not as serious. Probation vs. Jail time

 

[Iron Frenchie]

Its funny how many people on this forum worry about the risk of buying AAS. You would think there would be a ton of threads where someone admits getting setup through the mail. I have yet to see one.

 

[Crashbam]

Its funny how many people on this forum worry about the risk of buying AAS. You would think there would be a ton of threads where someone admits getting setup through the mail. I have yet to see one.

I've been ordering online since before everything was on the dark web, and it took a scorned wife to get me busted!!!

 

[Eman]

I disagree that raw sources are a tightly kept secret to only a privileged few... This just isn't the case. Every so often you'll hear about a private source but they're honestly pretty few and far between, and quite a few guys are reluctant to even use private sources... Myself included.

Personally, as long as you've researched and taken the proper steps to ensure you have what you need, home brewing gives the user more control over how their oils are handled.

I do agree it's probably more risky to be buying raws than it is finished oils, but they're both pretty risky purchases to be making.

The idea that a LE doesn't care if you're "preparing an injection" isn't going to be equated to manufacturing by a reasonable cop is absurd. LEO's are frequently unreasonable, especially when they want to be and they have very little consequences to their actions for even serious infractions. If they want to prosecute for manufacturing, they are not going to listen to "your side" of the story and be sympathetic... IIRC, steroids are also calculated by the dose when they determine how much you have in your possession. There is no set way to determine how much a "dose" is either... As far as I know, you could be charged by the milligram.

 

[Norse13]

Speaking from experience, I'm aware that in some countries, the sentencing is based on amount of mg steroids rather than number of vials or distribution intention.
Assuming you're using 2-3 different compounds, with minimum raw purchase of 50 gram each, that's 150 gram purchase.
That's a fuckload more than say 8 vials of 1-3 grams per vial.