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I take it that johnnybravel22 is not up on his scene news if he's referencing Tony Huge.
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From my research a few years ago, there are at least 3 men who came down with cataracts and posted about it. Google them with cataracts and you will probably find the threads.
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From my research, cataract formation usually had a minimum of around 20 grams ingested. Cataracts could form up to a year after stopping DNP. If you do take DNP, and you take supplements hoping for them to have an effect, it would be wise to continue for up to a year after.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1760503/pdf/calwestmed00398-0029.pdf
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From my readings, there's probably a way to check your piss for the nasty metabolites. The japanese study "Biochemical Studies on Cataract" by Ogino and Yasukura would probably provide a good starting point to identify the chemicals required for cataract formation, and to see if they are present.
I don't know that @janoshik would be interested in running piss tests, but maybe for enough cash, he could be convinced.
I don't know that @janoshik would be interested in running piss tests, but maybe for enough cash, he could be convinced.
Tell me what exactly I ought to test for and I'm sure we can come to an agreement about the price.
Villain
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I thought you freely accepted golden showers.Tell me what exactly I ought to test for and I'm sure we can come to an agreement about the price.
BroScientist
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Well, there you go. I have already taken over 20g DNP, so if I'm fucked, it's a foregone conclusion, but anyone else interested might benefit.Tell me what exactly I ought to test for and I'm sure we can come to an agreement about the price.
2-Amino-quinoneimine seems to be the chemical responsible for cataract formation. However, it's unclear by my quick re-reading of the study, whether vitamin-c prevents this compound from forming, or is protective against the cataract production of this compound when it is present.
This paper is interesting but not particularly useful. First, all the people reviewed are women. Second, it offers no evidence that the DNP cused the cataracs. Third, it made no effort to determine how prevelant this side effect is among all users.
All it really did was say "here is a list of women who used DNP and had vision problems between 1 and 12 months after they used it." The most useful part is that they all had this problem fairly quickly after using DNP, but that's no reason to believe that others won't get it much later.
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Yes, the primary users almost 100 years ago were women. It's not surprising that they studied mostly women. Also, this is one study, there are plenty out there that show a relationship between DNP and cataracts, especially the study I cited earlier, "Biochemical Studies on Cataract" by Ogino and Yasukura. Third, from other studies, the prevalence was estimated to be somewhere between 0.5 and 3%. However, these are mostly back of the envelope calculations from reported incidents and estimates of DNP use. The percentages could be higher.
There are plenty of studies on DNP out there, I quoted what I thought were relevant to the specific discussion at hand. If you don't think that DNP causes cataracts, I'm ok in letting you believe that. If you want to learn more, you can go to scholar.google.com and search for DNP studies and go to sci-hub or libgen to download the actual papers. I have read all that I can find, and I have no doubts.
Nah, family discount for you, though.
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Excellent! Wait... what?
BroScientist
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Here's the japanese paper if you want it.
https://volafile.org/r/16uqhkdbm
https://volafile.org/r/16uqhkdbm
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"Step bro, what are you doing?"
Don't put words in my mouth, I never said or even implied any such thing. All I said was that the particular paper you linked in that post was not particularly useful in learning anything other than about 30 women who got cataracts also happened to be using DNP.
I think that's a fair reading of that paper. The author didn't even attempt to demonstrate correlation, let alone causality. Based on this paper, they could also say "30 women who were fat got cataracts." DNP may or may not promote cataracts, but this paper is useless in determining that. All this said, I think there is enough circumstantial evidence to think it does in some cases, mostly females, and use caution.
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TacoTuesday
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Over the last 5 years I dont know of one person who developed cataracts from DNP usage... It is what it is.. There's genuinely not enough research to argue that it does in a proper manner.
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My personal experience and from reading around, cardarine doesn't really burn fat at all. It does significantly increase endurance, I can breathe much easier at 20mg. Lots of people run it while on Tren, apparently really helps with it. I have used while on DNP and does nothing, DNP is strong stuff.
I mean, I guess if you can do more cardio as a result of it, you might burn more fat. I wouldn't buy it expecting a miracle in regards to fat loss.
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YES!!!!!! This is much quicker than you originally suggested... I believe the original timeline was late March early April?
All good man. Don’t worry about everyone else, just respond to mine.
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