Covid breaking my hopes

[Chmewy]

The country is doing the right thing by shutting everything down. Most people hate their jobs, most kids hate going to school. This country works too hard and for what, to pay ass loads of taxes that are packed up and sent over seas to places like Israel that gets $4 billion every year. They have free healthcare and free higher education while our people don't have jack shit.

Just sit back and enjoy the vacation. The less you do, the less taxes you pay, the poorer the police state, the less prisons are built, the more government people have to be let go.

See I would agree with you but as a college kid(before you ask don’t even start with the whole talk on why I’m dumb doing aas) I have an apartment, loans, food, etc that I need to pay. Them shutting down over this is insane. I don’t have a job anymore, my mom doesn’t even have her job anymore. At this point I honestly don’t even know if I’m going to be able to buy food and supplies if and when college starts back up.

 

[Chmewy]

Last number I've seen was 40% hospitalized are 20-54. Wonder how many have pre-existing conditions or are heavy vape or pot smokers.

Exactly this^ I love how they talk about so many people getting infected which is terrible don’t get me wrong but fail to show that most likely over 50% of them are elderly or already have pre existing issue that will make them more susceptible

 

[SomeRandoGuy]

The younger people that have it and are hospitalized are mostly healthcare workers that are in contact with it everyday.

This is a load of horseshit, I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I agree 100% with @BigBaldBeardGuy, this was done on purpose to destroy the small businesses and widen the gap between the rich and the poor, so only a few dozen have the power over the rest of us (working class).

What I find the funniest is they have these sensansionalist articles with fear mongering titles where people that had it and survived (Miracle!!!) describe it, and what they basically describe is a regular fucking flu.

I’ve found in my nearly 50 years of life that the truth usually lies somewhere in between. The media will sensationalize to drive clicks but there’s a truth there. It’s usually not as bad as it’s made out to be but it’s not a nothing burger either. This is different than the flu and that much is certain.

 

[Oldschool]

The younger people that have it and are hospitalized are mostly healthcare workers that are in contact with it everyday.

This is a load of horseshit, I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I agree 100% with @BigBaldBeardGuy, this was done on purpose to destroy the small businesses and widen the gap between the rich and the poor, so only a few dozen have the power over the rest of us (working class).

What I find the funniest is they have these sensansionalist articles with fear mongering titles where people that had it and survived (Miracle!!!) describe it, and what they basically describe is a regular fucking flu.

Its sensationalized because the average pain tolerance/mental fortitude has dropped significantly in recent years among MOST folks.

 

[4Figgy]

Can u amaze us all by explaining how does the mortality rate goes down with more confirmed cases?
H1N1 has a mortality rate of 0.02% according to WHO. Compare that to a minimum of 2% of COVID'19 with rates of upto 8-9% for people above 70 yrs.
FYI total number of ventilators in USA is about 160000 only.
Anyways, the actual argument is about letting the about 2% people die without the rest having to change their routines. Kind of extremely unethical to me.

Simplicity is amazing......

We haven’t tested everyone. If you were to test everyone and get a true number of positive cases (which would only increase) it would drive the known death count % down. Probably by quite a large number due to how contagious this is, and how we have no immunity to it. How many people have already had this and just didn’t go to the doctor? All the unknowns in the statistics are in the total number infected, not the number of deaths.

 

[Jankauskas]

Its sensationalized because the average pain tolerance/mental fortitude has dropped significantly in recent years among MOST folks.

I just saw in the news that Canadians described the fever screening at the airport as scary as hell...

What kind of fucking society is this that we live in, if there was a world war and they were drafted they would shit themselves and pass out before getting out of the ships.

 

[zepp]

See I would agree with you but as a college kid(before you ask don’t even start with the whole talk on why I’m dumb doing aas) I have an apartment, loans, food, etc that I need to pay. Them shutting down over this is insane. I don’t have a job anymore, my mom doesn’t even have her job anymore. At this point I honestly don’t even know if I’m going to be able to buy food and supplies if and when college starts back up.

This just goes to show you how unstable the economy truly is if all it takes is a few weeks to bring this kind of unemployment.

Growing up all through the 70's and 80's people had good jobs with benefits. Everyone worked and the nation was a manufacturing powerhouse. You never saw people lounging around on the couch, most men worked six days a week. Then the 90's rolled around and all these plants start disappearing and they replaced them with shit service jobs and that's what you have today. People peddling cheap chinese or fast food slop no one needs.

Don't blame the shut down for showing the true weakness of this economy, blame the venture vulture capitalists that moved all the companies first to Mexico and then to China.

We now have an economy where people spend a fortune for education to compete for the limited number of cushy jobs, we have a very well educated group of young people with lots of degrees, but the jobs they're doing honestly don't require this level of education. It's like having a 1000hp sports car to drive a block from your house to get a cheeseburger when you could have just walked or rode a bicycle. It's over kill, it's purpose is to send a signal to employers and society that you're someone important because you spent an assload of money on an education that you could have gotten for free at a public library.

If employers were really interested in your abilities, they issue an IQ and skills test regardless of degrees. Since they're really only seeking degrees to hang on the wall it suggest they're only interested in basically a certain class of people that all think and look the same on paper, much like automatons.

 

[SomeRandoGuy]

I just saw in the news that Canadians described the fever screening at the airport as scary as hell...

What kind of fucking society is this that we live in, if there was a world war and they were drafted they would shit themselves and pass out before getting out of the ships.

I know it’s a rhetorical question but a world full of pussies??

 

[SomeRandoGuy]

I would rather have one hard worker that knows what hard work means and wants to learn rather than 10 people with high iqs that have questionable work ethic.

 

[The Terminator]

We’ll do it based on your haircut. It’ll give us a strong rallying cry! You’ll have to be our leader though so when we overthrow the government you better look fucking super handsome with that haircut and not a bowl cut or something retarded.

Seriously though. The closures to flatten the curve are strongly supported by Average Mommy’s and Daddy’s on Facebook. That’s likely the majority. That’s gotta change and those dipshits need to get over themselves. I guarantee the ones supporting “social distancing” ([emoji35] That term pisses me off now) are the SAME ones that are going to flood the ER as soon as Timmy and Suzy have the sniffles and a slight fever. Fuck those people.

Oh dad lol, I now get irritated whenever anyone utters the phrase “hunker down”

 

[The Terminator]

Btw this is all a ploy by skynet to destabilize the economy and humanity in furtherance of its goal to take over.

 

[Jankauskas]

Oh dad lol, I now get irritated whenever anyone utters the phrase “hunker down”

For me it’s “social distancing” and “flatten the curve”.

They could flatten the curve of my cock by sitting on it.

 

[4Figgy]

For me it’s “social distancing” and “flatten the curve”.

They could flatten the curve of my cock by sitting on it.

“Flatten the curve” just makes me realize how many sheep out there are just watching nonstop news about the world ending with that graph.

 

[zepp]

The young people are getting fucked in the ass on this.

They have loads of debt from college, and this is the economy they're being handed.

Hey I feel your pain, when I graduated back in the early mid 90's the economy was a pile of shit, then again in 2008, and once again come 2020. It's how America works.

They let you build up some wealth, tank the markets, the vultures come in and clean up the carnage and walk off with all the wealth. It's like clockwork.

It's a never ending cycle largely orchestrated by hedge fund managers.

Notice had the Treasury Secretary is quick to print up money and you can bet that won't end up in your pockets, that's gonna end up in his Jewish bankers buddies pockets.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

For me it’s “social distancing” and “flatten the curve”.

They could flatten the curve of my cock by sitting on it.

“Flatten the curve” is the sheeple battle cry right now. They’ve been insignificant their entire lives and now the feel like they are a participant in history.

Say an area has 700 hospital beds. Coronavirus fills those beds quickly and the cases spike quickly (without social distancing) a lot of people die, the hospital is overwhelmed for 2 months then everything returns to normal.

What happens when we “flatten the curve” at 2,000 people. The beds get filled quickly the remainder die, sure the beds get freed up but there is still a SHORTAGE so people still die but the stupid flat-curve results in a much greater 6-month or longer period where the hospitals are overwhelmed.

Same number of people die, if not more. [emoji2369]

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

The young people are getting fucked in the ass on this.

They have loads of debt from college, and this is the economy they're being handed.

Hey I feel your pain, when I graduated back in the early mid 90's the economy was a pile of shit, then again in 2008, and once again come 2020. It's how America works.

They let you build up some wealth, tank the markets, the vultures come in and clean up the carnage and walk off with all the wealth. It's like clockwork.

It's a never ending cycle largely orchestrated by hedge fund managers.

Notice had the Treasury Secretary is quick to print up money and you can bet that won't end up in your pockets, that's gonna end up in his Jewish bankers buddies pockets.

This! Except I’m not sure if it’s the Jewish bankers - they might be middle men to another level of power elite.

I’ve been using the analogy of card games. The House lets you win a few hands, you’re feeling good sitting pretty with a big stack of chips in front of you.

You feel great and you have luck on your side - you bet, win a little, bet, win a little, bet a little more, win bigger. This is great. You’re happy as can be.

Then the House gets you to bet big and go all in. You get completely taken and you sit there stunned, mouth slack, while they rake all the chips off the table.

The $1,000 bailout checks are like tossing you a $20 chip as you get up to walk away from the table after losing it all. They know you’ll be back to play again and again and the House always wins. Welcome to the new American Dream. Enjoy your stay.

 

[Jankauskas]

“Flatten the curve” is the sheeple battle cry right now. They’ve been insignificant their entire lives and now the feel like they are a participant in history.

Say an area has 700 hospital beds. Coronavirus fills those beds quickly and the cases spike quickly (without social distancing) a lot of people die, the hospital is overwhelmed for 2 months then everything returns to normal.

What happens when we “flatten the curve” at 2,000 people. The beds get filled quickly the remainder die, sure the beds get freed up but there is still a SHORTAGE so people still die but the stupid flat-curve results in a much greater 6-month or longer period where the hospitals are overwhelmed.

Same number of people die, if not more. [emoji2369]

This is exactly the same realization I have come to. A few days ago I saw it in the news that an expert had said that eventually, 30 to 70% of the population here in Canada would get it at some point.

If that’s the case, the same amount of people are going to die regardless of these stupid measures that they put in place, they are just going to trickle it down over the span of months, fucking the economy in the process.

And then they say “oh, if there were no protective measures, then the doctors and staff would get infected and there would be no one to treat the sick”.

What they forget is that, all it takes for a
Doctor or medical staff to get infected is one exposure, so it really doesn’t matter if they are dealing with 10 or 1000 cases, they are going to get sick eventually.

 

[Human_backhoe]

The thing that is largely overlooked is the real scope of the losses. In the 1930s the banks could only lend what they had. Now the banks lend based on a margin. In the 30s if the bank had 100 dollars it could loan 100 dollars. Now the banks are loaning 3000 dollars approximately for every 100 dollars in holdings. So when 100 dollars is wiped off the face of the earth.........we're far more fucked than we used to be! These margins have been steadily increasing with absolutely no lessons learned. The Fed will try to print their way out of this one, but I don't know if they can manage it this time. We are teetering between stagflation and depression!!!! It will take 3 to 6 months to play out.

 

[zepp]

One could compare this to a war. Causalities are gonna happen, there's no way to avoid them.

There's something to be said about letting shit hit the fan an the bodies stack up.

The economy isn't everything, but it isn't nothing either. If the economy goes to complete shit, it can have long term effects when people lose a job that they were good at and find themselves in a situation where they lack skills necessary for a different job. These people can find themselves doing low income work for the rest of their lives, no savings, feeling depressed and suicidal as society looks down on them for not being more successful.

It's often times better to just keep going and don't look back. If someone hits the ground with their brains blown out just keep going forward and hope you're not next.

 

[Jankauskas]

One could compare this to a war. Causalities are gonna happen, there's no way to avoid them.

There's something to be said about letting shit hit the fan an the bodies stack up.

The economy isn't everything, but it isn't nothing either. If the economy goes to complete shit, it can have long term effects when people lose a job that they were good at and find themselves in a situation where they lack skills necessary for a different job. These people can find themselves doing low income work for the rest of their lives, no savings, feeling depressed and suicidal as society looks down on them for not being more successful.

It's often times better to just keep going and don't look back. If someone hits the ground with their brains blown out just keep going forward and hope you're not next.

There is more intelect and rationality in this forum than in the government seats.