Covid breaking my hopes

[Logan44551]

these two Californian doctors support my thesis, that the lockdown is useless and dangerous. they also say that according to their data, the covid has a lower mortality rate than the flu, but is much more contagious, therefore it infects a higher number of people. Do you know these doctors? What do you think?

I saw the photos of the California beaches, this weekend and all the people were at the beach without the useless muzzles and without any social distancing! California is the Sweden of the United States?

Not were I'm at, mandatory masks to go into the grocery store. All parks closed

 

[Villain]

Hydroxychloroquine use should be avoided outside of hospitals, FDA warns

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on Friday warned against the use of two antimalarial drugs that have been touted as possible treatments for the novel coronavirus following reports of “serious heart rhythm problems” in COVID-19 patients treated with the medications.​

COVID-19 treatment hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit, more deaths in VA virus study

The two primary outcomes analyzed in the study were death and the need for ventilation.

About 28 percent who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11 percent of those getting routine care alone. About 22 percent of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died too, but the difference between that group and usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.

Hydroxychloroquine made no difference in the need for a breathing machine, either.

“In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19,” the researchers said. “An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.”​

I’ll take my chances on a drug that’s been around for quite some time and still does it’s job before I take anything the FDA deems safe. This is the same FDA which approves drugs whose side effects include DEATH, blindness, heart attacks, gastric detachment and many other things. I could be wrong on this and it could be the other alphabet group, but who determined AAS was dangerous and made it illegal?

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I’ll take my chances on a drug that’s been around for quite some time and still does it’s job before I take anything the FDA deems safe. This is the same FDA which approves drugs whose side effects include DEATH, blindness, heart attacks, gastric detachment and many other things. I could be wrong on this and it could be the other alphabet group, but who determined AAS was dangerous and made it illegal?

It was actually the passing of law that made steroids illegal. Thank Joe Biden btw (yet another reason to NOT vote for that mush head). Here's the best article ever written about that time period.
Steroids: The Birth of a Demon | T Nation

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Some of the local and county sheriff's departments around here are releasing statements that they're refusing to enforce the lockdown as it's unconstitutional. Businesses will be allowed to reopen if they choose. Our start recently announced the lockdown would continue through the end of May.

 

[The Terminator]

Not the deaths, the number of cases. I realize the mortality rate is lower than initially reported and if it gets to the point where it is near the flu I will be quite happy. That said it does appear to be more infectious than the flu so even if the mortality rate of it is near the flu, the fact that it spread faster means we will need to be more careful to keep the number of cases low (compared to the flu) in order for this not to cause a significant amount of deaths going forward until there is a working vaccine and treatment options.

They say the flu spreads so effectively that it is beyond containment. If this new corona is even more contagious and efficient how can it possibly be contained? Take precautions etc but if you’re living in constant fear of death then you’re not really alive.

 

[The Terminator]

Some of the local and county sheriff's departments around here are releasing statements that they're refusing to enforce the lockdown as it's unconstitutional. Businesses will be allowed to reopen if they choose. Our start recently announced the lockdown would continue through the end of May.

We have a democratic governor here who’s giving no details on when the stay at home order will end, but two county sheriffs have said they will no longer enforce those orders.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

We have a democratic governor here who’s giving no details on when the stay at home order will end, but two county sheriffs have said they will no longer enforce those orders.

Same here. They make decisions based on Chicago and the rest of the state is like a different country.

 

[notdeadYET]

Same here. They make decisions based on Chicago and the rest of the state is like a different country.

Are the local county officials and judges able to make different recommendations?

 

[decode]

Of course all of damn good brands of workout equipment are sold out as well.

ironmaster, i'm looking at you!

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Are the local county officials and judges able to make different recommendations?

I'm guessing just use common sense about going out and being around people. I'm not really following it super close. People have just been sharing those announcements on Facebook a lot.

 

[Millard]

I’ll take my chances on a drug that’s been around for quite some time and still does it’s job before I take anything the FDA deems safe.

Just follow the evidence. Don't allow distrust of FDA or political punditry to influence your decisions.

 

[Millard]

This is the same FDA which approves drugs whose side effects include DEATH, blindness, heart attacks, gastric detachment and many other things. I could be wrong on this and it could be the other alphabet group, but who determined AAS was dangerous and made it illegal?

It was actually the passing of law that made steroids illegal. Thank Joe Biden btw (yet another reason to NOT vote for that mush head).

Actually, the FDA tried to PREVENT the criminalization of anabolic steroids under the Controlled Substances Act.

So did the American Medical Association (AMA), the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), and probably a few other three-letter government agencies.

See more: The Morality of Steroids and the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990 - MESO-Rx

Well, why were steroids criminalized against all expert testimony?

The biggest reason was Joseph Biden, who, in 1988, was the Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Crime and the Senate Committee on the Judiciary.

Biden was the architect of the Anabolic Steroid Control Act. He used his influence as House Subcommitte Chairman to call multiple congressional steroid hearings in 1988.

In his opening statement, Biden insisted that steroids could be a "gateway drug" to cocaine and marijuana use, undermined the "so-called American way" of life, and threatened the mental and physical health of the children.

See more: Joseph Biden Criminalized Anabolic Steroids with Harsher Penalties for Steroid Users - MESO-Rx

 

[Villain]

Just follow the evidence. Don't allow distrust of FDA or political punditry to influence your decisions.

I consider you a very level headed and logical man Millard. I’ve read and researched a lot into this Covid-19 as well as looking at the track record of the FDA. Something just doesn’t add up in all of this.

 

[Jankauskas]

 

[ergomaniac]

Here's another to watch. Both of these guys interviews from London Real with Brian Rose were banned by youtube. London Real has been attacked, Brian Rose's accounts on YouTube, Facebook, vimeo, LinkedIn and others have been attacked or banned. All because guests didn't parrot the "official narative". Whatever you might think of what they have to say, I myself, believe in free speech, and ill make up my own mind. Look up #londonrealarmy.



This is another that id be interested in having more educated minds than myself comment on. Its been floating around for awhile. It talks about the early diagnosis of this covid 19 and the pcr tests.



Otherwise I've gone too far down the rabbit hole. But not mentioning the potential 50 times as many people exposed as confirmed, dropping the death percentage to something along the lines of... the flu.

It's best to watch the clips from London Real, or these gentleman's channels to get their full story.

 

[master.on]

How's Sweden doing now that they haven't followed the lock down??? Oh that's right over 800 new cases in 2 days. The peanut gallery is as dumb as it comes. FREE MERICA !!!!!! LOL duhhhhhh

Because Sweden is a small and homogeneous country and it makes it way easier to contain the virus.

Same here. They make decisions based on Chicago and the rest of the state is like a different country.

Are the local county officials and judges able to make different recommendations?

Again, that's why the virus is way easier to contain in small and homogeneous countries like Sweden.

 

[ergomaniac]

 

[RoidmeDangerfield]

A couple things that are getting me down about COVID-19 is the sharp increase in burglaries in my area. A neighbor and his wife went for a bike ride leaving their five children in the house (ages 11 to late twenties). It was early in the morning and the kids had no idea what was going on but apparently burglars ransacked the first floor while they were in their rooms sleeping.

Also people nearby are reporting mail parcels being snatched from their front porches.

But worst of all is criminals are being released from jail and prison due to COVID-19. People who were put away for thievery are now right back in the streets. All of this isn't a coincidence.

 

[Villain]

A couple things that are getting me down about COVID-19 is the sharp increase in burglaries in my area. A neighbor and his wife went for a bike ride leaving their five children in the house (ages 11 to late twenties). It was early in the morning and the kids had no idea what was going on but apparently burglars ransacked the first floor while they were in their rooms sleeping.

Also people nearby are reporting mail parcels being snatched from their front porches.

But worst of all is criminals are being released from jail and prison due to COVID-19. People who were put away for thievery are now right back in the streets. All of this isn't a coincidence.

It reminds me of the Batman movie when Scarecrow has all the prisoners released from prison right before the mass hysteria drug was released. They always say the global elite announce their plans well in advance through movies, TV shows, etc.

 

[RoidmeDangerfield]

Oh, God. I hope not.