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Synthesis of testosterone from DHEA via 5-androstene-3,17-diol
Going to try it. Making powder.
Synthesis of testosterone from DHEA via 5-androstene-3,17-diol
Going to try it. Making powder.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Making from scratch
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Kingsmountain
Member
Good luck and more power to you if you can.
However, you still won't know what you have (finished product) until you verify through n acredited lab and test raws are cheap to the point of why would you make your own?
A 100g's of Prop, Cyp, Enth are only around $100.
I promise you will have more than that in lab ware alone.
Kingsmountain
Member
Just to be clear ... I wasn't busting your balls.
If you can do it, I really meant it when I said more power to you.
I understand sometimes it's not just a matter of money.
Keep us posted with your progress and as I said earlier best of luck
Sending a small sample to Jano would be better than bloods to show purity but if you've had enough bloodwork to know where you should be with a certain dose, then that is still helpful but also subjective. Ultimately, it doesn't sound like you are doing this to source but for personal use. However, myself and I assume others on this forum, would be interested in seeing what sort of results @janoshik had to report. Whatever you decide, pretty cool science experiment you did here.
LeoTC
Member
No...
Why would you brew and inject an untested anything into your body? That's asking for trouble.
Kingsmountain
Member
A blood test is not going to tell you anything about the composition of your raw , including things that shouldn't be in it.
I just saw in another post where you were asking what guaiacol is.
You should probably do a lot more reading / research before proceeding with anything.
I don't have everything yet. I'm not arrogant just ignorant. It's good to ask questions. I'll get in contact with Jano about it. As a source, that might be a failure; couldn't make it selling weed (not well connected), but who knows. I would be doing it for personal use with possible estherification. What files would you have me read?
Kingsmountain
Member
Of course it is. This is a harm reduction board so asking questions is definitely encouraged as long as they are NOT questions that could easily be answered through the search function of the forums or even google. i.e. questions like what is guaiacol.
I don't know if you are trolling with that statement but there is absolutely no way you are going to move into being a source for raw powders unless you have several hundred thousand or more to invest in manufacturing / lab equipment and certified chemist for compounding and hplc / lcms testing.
If you are speaking of being a source for finished products, you are going about it not only the hard way but expensive way as I pointed out in post #2 raws are already widely available and cheap as far as testosterone is concerned.
"Possible estherification"?
If all you can produce is base test, you are not going to get far in selling a TNE compound.
Even if you are going to just use it yourself, TNE is a compound for more advanced users or those who can tolerate it as a PWO.
Otherwise, you are in for one hell of a roller coaster ride hormone wise with brutal side effects unless you have experience in how TNE absorbs / releases. i.e. the immediate blood serum spike and second spike release due to initial unabsorbed solids.
As far as "files", most learn through digging on the Internet, personal bio hacking and shared experiences of others. So in short there is no one place to go for files rather a lot of footwork is involved and there are no shortcuts.
My suggestion would be to start out with a more simple approach. Order some raws from a reliable known vendor here on MESO and try a few simple brews like test (p,c,e) to get your feet wet. Do tons of reading here on the forum and other websites. Google patents is a good place to learn the basic mechanics of producing / compounding, etc. Just don't try to follow any of the patents you see as most leave out crucial steps to success.
Once again, there are no shortcuts in what you are attempting to accomplish. Like anything else it takes time and experience to get results.
As someone who has studied and practiced organic chemistry enough to run a successful clandestine drug lab for many years in Canada before being busted I really urge you to not attempt this without spending a few months(ATLEAST) studying the basics of organic synthesis, Esterification is one of the first lessons you will learn after basic building blocks, and please for the love of god if you do All of this and manage to synthesize your own test please have some sort of quantitative/quality testing done first before injecting your self with that. Lastly setting up a lab for synthesis of a drug is expensive from glassware, chemical reagents to labware, heat plates, magnetic stirrers.. please be careful and safe my friend, also depending where you live I can assure you that even synthesizing testosterone would be federal drug manufacturing charges if you were caught.
I’ve been searching for information to homebrew transdermals which I know is not popular on Meso, but it’s the best right now for my situation.
So far, I’ve had limited success finding info on the topic of transdermals. Do you know if TNE is the best choice or could/should one of the esters be considered?
Boss hog
New Member
Have you tried the search function yet.
Not helpful.
As is noted in my original post, I have searched and the condescending suggestion of the no brainer search function has already been used. Hence the risk in asking the question.
I’ve seen others who were new preface their posts with requests for kind responses and I’ve seen why. Was hoping there would be deduction used that the forum is largely focus on injections and somewhat limited on topicals. Damn, understanding better the reservations of asking questions. Nice bro
Now, if you have suggestions beyond the keywords of transdermal, homebrew, or topical, that actually would actually be helpful.
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