Ideal HGH Protocol - Muscle Gain

[wildfuchs]

Hey guys I have question please. I did 3 cure of GH already. I use to take Genotropin 3ui a day with great result. Recently I started a chinese at 6ui one injection the morning and one the night before bed. I directly feel the sleep very deep, some sores in the articulations, hands ect... after few days. Making me think is legit. But since few days I have a swollen face, more the morning when I wake up, but during the day to. More located on the eyes. So I down the dose to 4 ui in 2 injection and I still swollen. What it can be? Do you have some advices please?

severe side effects aren't a sign of your hgh being legit or not btw, anyone would get them starting off at that dose - you should taper up like mentioned.

 

[Bayron]

severe side effects aren't a sign of your hgh being legit or not btw, anyone would get them starting off at that dose - you should taper up like mentioned.

I gonna do 2 ui and see

 

[AliceInGains]

I just started running HGH about 6 months ago and followed the step-ladder protocol

week 1-4 2 IU 1x day
week 5 2.5 IU 1x day
week 6 3IU (1.5 IU 2x day)
Week 7 3.5IU (1.75 IU 2x day)
Week 8 4IU (2IU 2x day)

So I have quit taking GH for about a couple months and wanting to get back on would I need to stepladder back up to 5IU a day or can I go back in to 5IU. It seems like when im around 4-5 IU a day I get really tired all the time but when I run tren it also seems like im tired during the day like I don't get deep enough sleep. I was using 5 on 2 off protocol but I have read in this forum 3 on 1 off. I think that seems more natural then taking 2 days off straight. Any help appreciated!

 

[koast123]

I think its better to use one bolus dose per day unless you are using high doses (+8iu).

I also think 8-12iu is the ceiling dose someone should use.

1-8iu - one dose (IMO low doses like 2-3iu would benefit from using it EOD)
8-12iu - two doses

 

[AliceInGains]

I think its better to use one bolus dose per day unless you are using high doses (+8iu).

I also think 8-12iu is the ceiling dose someone should use.

1-8iu - one dose (IMO low doses like 2-3iu would benefit from using it EOD)
8-12iu - two doses

Well one bolus dose would definitely be easier for me to maintain that way I just take it after the gym instead of trying to get up early take half of it an hour before I eat. I am going to try one Bolus dose of 5IU instead. I have seen a lot of people stay on GH for 6 months or more, so when you stop how long should you be off GH before you get back on? That way you don’t destroy your body natural GH production?

 

[lilhawk]

Well one bolus dose would definitely be easier for me to maintain that way I just take it after the gym instead of trying to get up early take half of it an hour before I eat. I am going to try one Bolus dose of 5IU instead. I have seen a lot of people stay on GH for 6 months or more, so when you stop how long should you be off GH before you get back on? That way you don’t destroy your body natural GH production?

Your body's own natural GH production is minuscule. There really is no reason to come off GH for an extended period of time if you're worried about disrupting your own natural GH production, unless maybe you are 16. I might take a couple weeks off here and there, but otherwise I stay on it non stop. Metformin is used for any insulin resistance the GH might cause.

 

[AliceInGains]

Your body's own natural GH production is minuscule. There really is no reason to come off GH for an extended period of time if you're worried about disrupting your own natural GH production, unless maybe you are 16. I might take a couple weeks off here and there, but otherwise I stay on it non stop. Metformin is used for any insulin resistance the GH might cause.

okay awesome I appreciate the input, I will look into the metformin I need to get some bloods done, so if you were to take off say two weeks off of GH and you were taking 5IUs a day when you stopped would you go right back into 5IU? Wouldn’t be much point to step ladder back up would it? I think the one bolus dose will be more beneficial I just need to get some bloods to make sure my other levels are okay, at 5IU I wouldn’t expect too many problems

 

[Bayron]

Ok all good I reduced the dose still have result, sleep very well and no more swollen face. Little by little go back to 4ui max I think. Seems pretty powerful. By the way who esle have used The chinese GH named Boawei? What do you think about?

 

[AliceInGains]

Ok all good I reduced the dose still have result, sleep very well and no more swollen face. Little by little go back to 4ui max I think. Seems pretty powerful. By the way who esle have used The chinese GH named Boawei? What do you think about?

I think I am going to do 4IU daily one bolus dose, I have quite a bit of GH on hand so I’ve been wondering at what amount GH would you want to start with insulin? You are just suppose to take it after you eat I guess it’s different for everyone so determine how much slin you need by where your blood sugar is at? I’ve never used boawei, I’m using GODS gh and seems to be dosed pretty good!

 

[Bayron]

I think I am going to do 4IU daily one bolus dose, I have quite a bit of GH on hand so I’ve been wondering at what amount GH would you want to start with insulin? You are just suppose to take it after you eat I guess it’s different for everyone so determine how much slin you need by where your blood sugar is at? I’ve never used boawei, I’m using GODS gh and seems to be dosed pretty good!

I’m not a pro and I only used GH 3 times. Taking the morning stomach empty and waiting 1h to eat. When I tried the night was before sleep and after 4h eating. Sleep soooo good but the morning head in the ass and swollen.
I gonna stay low dose only the morning... maybe up to 4ui if I feel it good.
For the insulin It seems very dangerous and apparently people die very quick with a little mistake.

 

[hghlover]

People are getting 100 points more on IGF 1 scores when splitting, not sure why people insist that bolus shots are better

 

[Bayron]

And for the debate pharma/chinese... this Boawei work good. I’m maybe little less lean than with the Genotropine. I really want to test it.

 

[hghlover]

okay awesome I appreciate the input, I will look into the metformin I need to get some bloods done, so if you were to take off say two weeks off of GH and you were taking 5IUs a day when you stopped would you go right back into 5IU? Wouldn’t be much point to step ladder back up would it? I think the one bolus dose will be more beneficial I just need to get some bloods to make sure my other levels are okay, at 5IU I wouldn’t expect too many problems

5 iu is a BIG starting dose

 

[AliceInGains]

5 iu is a BIG starting dose

I appreciate the input man and I always take what you guys say as gospel because I’ve found tons of good info in these forums, so I had taken GH previously for about a 3-4 month period but 5 times a week and 2 split doses at about 3IUs and I really didn’t notice too much, I had read a lot of info from people saying 5IU+ is more of a bodybuilding dose and 3-4IU is for healthy skin and to burn body fat, my BF isn’t bad I’m at about 10% and I weigh 235 6’1, so should I do 4IU Bolus instead? I take the one shot after I workout and so much easier for me to keep up with, the only thing when I make my protein shake I like to throw almonds and peanut butter and other shit in there too, doesn’t seem to be spiking my Blood sugar too much, so my question is, do you think that 4IU would be okay then? And I like to eat fruits after I workout for natural sugars but I wonder if this cause more harm then good

 

[AliceInGains]

 

[hghlover]

I appreciate the input man and I always take what you guys say as gospel because I’ve found tons of good info in these forums, so I had taken GH previously for about a 3-4 month period but 5 times a week and 2 split doses at about 3IUs and I really didn’t notice too much, I had read a lot of info from people saying 5IU+ is more of a bodybuilding dose and 3-4IU is for healthy skin and to burn body fat, my BF isn’t bad I’m at about 10% and I weigh 235 6’1, so should I do 4IU Bolus instead? I take the one shot after I workout and so much easier for me to keep up with, the only thing when I make my protein shake I like to throw almonds and peanut butter and other shit in there too, doesn’t seem to be spiking my Blood sugar too much, so my question is, do you think that 4IU would be okay then? And I like to eat fruits after I workout for natural sugars but I wonder if this cause more harm then good

Well I mean if you aren't getting crazy sides at 5 iu then it should be fine.

But best not to expect crazy muscle growth, even at higher doses.

Its a hormone much better at helping with training recovery and injury healing imo

Checking blood sugar and blood pressure once a week is also a good idea

 

[AliceInGains]

Yeah not crazy bro but I’m running it in conjunction with my test prop, tren Ace, masteron cycle and 4 weeks of dbol I just kicked off, no carpal tunnel but my joints in my shoulder is a little achey, I appreciate all your feedback bro! Insurance with new job kicks in a week and gonna go get labs, my blood pressure has always stayed relatively low running gear thank god but I eat fairly clean as well