Help with blood test?

[Nano Scale]

Well it’s good that you stopped the alcohol and weed. Could very well have been that which gave you low T or at least contributed. Would have been helpful to know what LH/FSH was at but no matter.

I would start hCG and stay on it until T is at least 400-500 which would be like ~14-17nmol, but of course you could stay on till it’s higher. For me I’d start ~1000iu 3x/wk and adjust if necessary. Once you reach that T level then you can switch to clomid/tamoxifen for min 1-2 months. Doses I’d do like 50/20, maybe 25/10 towards the end but prob not necessary to taper unless planning on using them longer. The 100/40mg if you were to do it I’d only do so for the first day or two but then 50/20.

If the serms don’t help there’s always triptorelin. I have it but never used triptorelin tho you’re supposed to inject 0.1mg once: more then that can leave you temporarily suppressed.

If I understand correctly:
1. 1000iu Pregnyl every other day until 14-17 nmol/l
2. 100mg Clomid the first day, then 50mg Clomid for 2 months

Do you know how much time it could take for the HCG to get me on these levels so I know how much to buy? Also, you mean Clomid or Tamoxifen, or both?

Thank you so much for the help!

 

[The Terminator]

If I understand correctly:
1. 1000iu Pregnyl every other day until 14-17 nmol/l
2. 100mg Clomid the first day, then 50mg Clomid for 2 months

Do you know how much time it could take for the HCG to get me on these levels so I know how much to buy? Also, you mean Clomid or Tamoxifen, or both?

Thank you so much for the help!

Eod or 3x/wk whatever is easier, it’s basically the same thing except eod you’ll have one more shot every two weeks. I used ovitrelle but pregyl will work just fine. I just did 50/20 (50mg clomid/20mg tamoxifen), but something say doing a higher dose the first day or two can be helpful.

Well everyone is different but for me I was on trt/cycle for 20 months and 3-4 weeks post trt my T went down to 175ng/6nmol. At that point I started hCG at 1000iu 3x/wk and after like a month or 4-5 weeks my T was at ~700ng/24.3nmol. Of course it could take more or less time for you. And I meant both clomid and tamoxifen. You could use just one but both would be more effective.

 

[Nano Scale]

Got it! Thanks a lot for the help, guys!!!

 

[Nano Scale]

@Human_backhoe @The Terminator guys, just one more question. Since I'm going to do a testosterone only cycle (I was planned it on January, but I can do it sooner if I have to), can I do the cycle first, then the pregnyl/clomid therapy?

For example:
12 weeks: 500mg Omnadren (weekly)
4 weeks: 1000ui Pregnyl (every other day)
8 weeks: 50mg Clomid + 20mg Tamoxifen (daily)

I'm asking because I'm not sure if doing the therapy first, then the cycle, then a therapy again is a good idea.

Thanks!

 

[Human_backhoe]

@Human_backhoe @The Terminator guys, just one more question. Since I'm going to do a testosterone only cycle (I was planned it on January, but I can do it sooner if I have to), can I do the cycle first, then the pregnyl/clomid therapy?

For example:
12 weeks: 500mg Omnadren (weekly)
4 weeks: 1000ui Pregnyl (every other day)
8 weeks: 50mg Clomid + 20mg Tamoxifen (daily)

I'm asking because I'm not sure if doing the therapy first, then the cycle, then a therapy again is a good idea.

Thanks!

Honestly, I personally would hop on the hcg sooner than later!

Alcohol can actually damage ledig cells! By forcing them to produce sooner than later you might recover better after cycle. If that's the route you go.

@The Terminator can you verify this? Also thanks for stepping in here!

 

[Human_backhoe]

Also a warning.....

If you go with triptorelin, only purchase the 0.1 kit!!!!!! It also comes in 25. If you miss dose it, and it's impossible not to. You will chemically castrate yourself for 6 months lol

 

[Tren91]

Hcg 250-500 iu EOD.You won't find pregnyl or choriomon in Bulgarian pharmacy soon.Only available is Ovitrelle which is more expensive than other hcg.Also clomiphene is not available from 2019 , but you lucky you can find some boxes left in smaller pharmacies (ask for klostilbegit).One tab per day is more than enough.Also make blood test after 3 to 4 weeks after finishing PCT for more accurate results.

 

[Tren91]

Yea also if you can't find clomiphene buy tamox/nolva .They are the same ,but tamox is probably 5 times cheaper.

 

[Nano Scale]

I was curious if I can do the cycle first, because he said that he recovered with the hcg and clomid after a 2 year blast and cruise. But it's no problem for me, I can do the therapy and start the cycle next year (it's even better, since it's really hot now)...

 

[Nano Scale]

I've ordered the pregnyl and clomid, I'll buy the tamoxifen from the pharmacy. I decided to try to get my natural T on normal levels this year. Thanks a lot for the help again, guys!

 

[Human_backhoe]

I've ordered the pregnyl and clomid, I'll buy the tamoxifen from the pharmacy. I decided to try to get my natural T on normal levels this year. Thanks a lot for the help again, guys!

Definitely the smartest move! In its a marathon not a sprint!


Glad we could help!

 

[MadBret]

I live in Bulgaria, it's a small country in Europe

Y'all make some great AK47s over there.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Y'all make some great AK47s over there.

Gotta get the Zastava arms ak and tokarevs. Finest in all the com block!
All former Yugoslavia
Edit sks too

 

[MadBret]

Gotta get the Zastava arms ak and tokarevs. Finest in all the com block!
All former Yugoslavia
Edit sks too

Check out Arsenal of Bulgaria. They used to be imported as whole guns but now if you want one in the US they are basically assemblied in Las Vegas with Bulgarian parts. Many consider them to be the Cadillac of AKs. Folks like to talk shit about them being too expensive and the paint on the receivers being shit, but they run like a raped ape.

 

[The Terminator]

@Human_backhoe @The Terminator guys, just one more question. Since I'm going to do a testosterone only cycle (I was planned it on January, but I can do it sooner if I have to), can I do the cycle first, then the pregnyl/clomid therapy?

For example:
12 weeks: 500mg Omnadren (weekly)
4 weeks: 1000ui Pregnyl (every other day)
8 weeks: 50mg Clomid + 20mg Tamoxifen (daily)

I'm asking because I'm not sure if doing the therapy first, then the cycle, then a therapy again is a good idea.

Thanks!

Honestly, I personally would hop on the hcg sooner than later!

Alcohol can actually damage ledig cells! By forcing them to produce sooner than later you might recover better after cycle. If that's the route you go.

@The Terminator can you verify this? Also thanks for stepping in here!

Well if this cycle is gonna be a year away then pct now, if it’s like less than a month away pct after. I think that t you plan to use is like the Eastern European version of sustanon, if so I’d pick something else if possible. The long esters might complicate pct timing. I’d go with p cause or at least c or e.

And yea even if you decide to cycle now and pct later you could get on hCG now.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Well if this cycle is gonna be a year away then pct now, if it’s like less than a month away pct after. I think that t you plan to use is like the Eastern European version of sustanon, if so I’d pick something else if possible. The long esters might complicate pct timing. I’d go with p cause or at least c or e.

And yea even if you decide to cycle now and pct later you could get on hCG now.

I believe it is test prop.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Check out Arsenal of Bulgaria. They used to be imported as whole guns but now if you want one in the US they are basically assemblied in Las Vegas with Bulgarian parts. Many consider them to be the Cadillac of AKs. Folks like to talk shit about them being too expensive and the paint on the receivers being shit, but they run like a raped ape.

As long as gun goes ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting. I am happy lol.

I will check it out!

Also bought a norinco socom16 the day before the import ban! It was made on the original Springfield tooling and runs great!

 

[MadBret]

Some of those old chinese Polytechs and Norincos are worth some good coin around here. We haven't been able to get either brand imported in the US since I believe the early 1990s.

So, Canada has an import ban against them also?

A buddy of mine has a Springfield Socom II. Bad ass rifle, my friend.

I had an old chinese Polytech ak chambered in .223 almost 30 years ago now. Wish I still had it. I sold it for less than the magazines that I included with it are worth now days. LOL Easy come, easy go...

 

[MadBret]

And apparently I misspoke earlier about the Las Vegas Arsenal's. They are made in Bulgaria but have a certain number of US parts installed to make them legal here. The older ones like the slr 95 etc were sold as they came from the factory in Bulgaria.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Some of those old chinese Polytechs and Norincos are worth some good coin around here. We haven't been able to get either brand imported in the US since I believe the early 1990s.

So, Canada has an import ban against them also?

A buddy of mine has a Springfield Socom II. Bad ass rifle, my friend.

I had an old chinese Polytech ak chambered in .223 almost 30 years ago now. Wish I still had it. I sold it for less than the magazines that I included with it are worth now days. LOL Easy come, easy go...

They banned anything on the AR/m4 platform, as well as all m14 variants. Then went as far and outlawing my Robinson arms Xcr series rifles.

Fucking commies banned half of what I owned pre unfortunate boating accident!