PPL finished product underdosed.

[Xenophon178]

Hi guys. I’m posting this with bloods because I’m about tired of this shit. I’ve been using PPL finished products for a little while. Their raws were endorsed by a few MESO members. I’m learning the hard way that raws and finished aren’t always of the same quality.

Attached you will find bloodwork. 450mg a week (200mg test C- Pharm TRT and 250 test C PPL) yielded approx 1400nd/dL. Two inj/week (Tues/Fri). Bloods drawn 3 days post injection.

The estradiol reading you’ll see is from Tren.

Please, I want your opinions on two things:

1. Is this possible if gear is good?

2. Is it worth it to brew for personal use only? (I don’t want to get scammed again)

FYI, I’ve placed another order recently. I hadn’t had bloods taken at that point in time. Fully intend to test EVERY VIAL. Its

 

[Xenophon178]

FYI. I don’t want a store credit and I’m not asking for a refund. I don’t want a GD thing.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

1400. No. Not possible.

However I did bloods also on his test cyp and the result was what I expected.

It may have been a different batch in my case.

And yes it is totally worth it to brew for personal use only. Just start right.

Alternative to the caulking gun, maybe.

Depends. Do I care if my trenbolone has just a little testosterone in it? No Do I care if my testosterone has just a little trenbolone in it? Yes,because when I post blasting,I am trying to recover. It might be a non factor ,we are talking less than 1% here. Some people flush their filters...

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Actually,do you have any previous bloodwork to compare this one to?
You could be an under-responder,who the hell knows.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Hi guys. I’m posting this with bloods because I’m about tired of this shit. I’ve been using PPL finished products for a little while. Their raws were endorsed by a few MESO members. I’m learning the hard way that raws and finished aren’t always of the same quality.

Attached you will find bloodwork. 450mg a week (200mg test C- Pharm TRT and 250 test C PPL) yielded approx 1400nd/dL. Two inj/week (Tues/Fri). Bloods drawn 3 days post injection.

The estradiol reading you’ll see is from Tren.

Please, I want your opinions on two things:

1. Is this possible if gear is good?

2. Is it worth it to brew for personal use only? (I don’t want to get scammed again)

FYI, I’ve placed another order recently. I hadn’t had bloods taken at that point in time. Fully intend to test EVERY VIAL. Its

Was it PPL finished product domestic or international?

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

I could understand underdosing primo or even tren... but cmon... they sell raw test at 0.7$/g

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

I could understand underdosing primo or even tren... but cmon... they sell raw test at 0.7$/g

Solid argument.

BUT it could totally be the brewers' fuck up.

 

[Xenophon178]

Was it PPL finished product domestic or international?

International Inj. Finished.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

International Inj. Finished.

Mate,no offense right.
I really want to hear the reason for buying finished instead of brewing.
I have always been wondering.

 

[Xenophon178]

Mate,no offense right.
I really want to hear the reason for buying finished instead of brewing.
I have always been wondering.

New to the self sourcing game. Just haven’t taken the plunge yet. Will soon.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

New to the self sourcing game. Just haven’t taken the plunge yet. Will soon.

Thanks

 

[Xenophon178]

Thanks

Sorry, I owe you a better explanation than that. I always either used a trusted UGL when I was stateside or pharma grade when I was overseas. Now I’m out of the military and on my own. Had to locate new sources.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

Sorry, I owe you a better explanation than that. I always either used a trusted UGL when I was stateside or pharma grade when I was overseas. Now I’m out of the military and on my own. Had to locate new sources.

Straight to homebrew mate. Or buy from a good ugl and pay more...but...for good product.

 

[Xenophon178]

Straight to homebrew mate. Or buy from a good ugl and pay more...but...for good product.

I’ve been doing my research. As you’ve said, straight to the home brew. Just digging meso now for good reviews on sources. Finding what I’m looking for pretty well.

 

[Xenophon178]

1400. No. Not possible.

However I did bloods also on his test cyp and the result was what I expected.

It may have been a different batch in my case.

And yes it is totally worth it to brew for personal use only. Just start right.

Alternative to the caulking gun, maybe.

Depends. Do I care if my trenbolone has just a little testosterone in it? No Do I care if my testosterone has just a little trenbolone in it? Yes,because when I post blasting,I am trying to recover. It might be a non factor ,we are talking less than 1% here. Some people flush their filters...

thinksteroids.com

Actually,do you have any previous bloodwork to compare this one to?
You could be an under-responder,who the hell knows.

Sorry, I just saw the under responding thing. No I don’t. I ordered from PPL as soon as the doc put me on TRT.
Long story short, I’ve been hypogonadal my whole life. I knew where I wanted to go and pretty much how I wanted to get there from past experience.



This is the first time I’ve ran bloodwork like I should have been doing my whole life. I’m older and wiser now.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

Sorry, I just saw the under responding thing. No I don’t. I ordered from PPL as soon as the doc put me on TRT.
Long story short, I’ve been hypogonadal my whole life. I knew where I wanted to go and pretty much how I wanted to get there from past experience.



This is the first time I’ve ran bloodwork like I should have been doing my whole life. I’m older and wiser now.

No worries.
Live and learn.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

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[koast123]

Hi guys. I’m posting this with bloods because I’m about tired of this shit. I’ve been using PPL finished products for a little while. Their raws were endorsed by a few MESO members. I’m learning the hard way that raws and finished aren’t always of the same quality.

Attached you will find bloodwork. 450mg a week (200mg test C- Pharm TRT and 250 test C PPL) yielded approx 1400nd/dL. Two inj/week (Tues/Fri). Bloods drawn 3 days post injection.

The estradiol reading you’ll see is from Tren.

Please, I want your opinions on two things:

1. Is this possible if gear is good?

2. Is it worth it to brew for personal use only? (I don’t want to get scammed again)

FYI, I’ve placed another order recently. I hadn’t had bloods taken at that point in time. Fully intend to test EVERY VIAL. Its

Broderick chavez said he usually see a x3-x5 multiplier o test dosages, so...

450*3 = 1350...

bad genetics, thats all

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

@Chavez

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

@SimeonPanda

 

[Xenophon178]

@PandaRep

Bring him in if you want but, I’m not asking for anything. I don’t want a store credit and I don’t want a refund. I’m NOT going to accept anything as a matter of principle because I’ve seen reverse scammers on here.

I waited until my latest order shipped before posting this. I’m going to either test the vials with Semi quantitative kits or send some oil off.

Either way, the proof will be in the pudding. I’ll either eat my words or not. Believe me, I’m not too good to say I was wrong.