Tren and Npp absolutely unbelievable

Bigboy727

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cycle
Test 300
Npp 350
Tren 400
Anavar 50mg

Anyone else try this?

I am 39 and been doing gear for 7 years. I’ve got bored and said this seems like an idea. I am blown away why I haven’t done it before. Listening to these 2 Nor-19 comments have hindered me and I’m sitting questioning everything about my life.

The not so good; is I can’t nut for awhile or get rid of morning wood for about 21 hours. It’s worse then just tren Dick the girlfriend said. She has been scared for life.

The great thing; is I’ve never saw my body transform like this.
 
Yes mate I've done this if your not prone to estrogen problems its decent but not for the faint hearted nice lean gains and have the npp to keep joints healthy and yes sex can last for hours which I love lol

Not so good is taking ages to bust and making a huge pool of water during sex no need for extra cardio when your on this blast! [emoji1303]
 
cycle
Test 300
Npp 350
Tren 400
Anavar 50mg

Anyone else try this?

I am 39 and been doing gear for 7 years. I’ve got bored and said this seems like an idea. I am blown away why I haven’t done it before. Listening to these 2 Nor-19 comments have hindered me and I’m sitting questioning everything about my life.

The not so good; is I can’t nut for awhile or get rid of morning wood for about 21 hours. It’s worse then just tren Dick the girlfriend said. She has been scared for life.

The great thing; is I’ve never saw my body transform like this.

How's sleep?
 
I have thought about adding 150 mg tren ace per week on top of 280 or 350 mg NPP. Never tried it though. Was gonna do some tren this spring/summer, just a low dose of 150 or 175 mg per week tren ace. I have never done tren before so obviously going to do it solo to begin with, although I may include 5 mg of MENT per day on top of it as I love the way the MENT makes me feel mentally.

I recently added 5 mg MENT per day on top of my 500 test/350 NPP cycle and have had no e2 issues, just mental/psychological benefits.

I would definitely try Tren/NPP together though. Probably would look to do something like 300 test C, 280 NPP, and 150 tren ace. I love anavar too so maybe would throw in 20 mg of anavar for 10 weeks or something. I want to experiment with 10-12 week anavar cycles at lower doses, in the past I have always done 40-50mg for 8 weeks. Never had any issues with creatinine or BUN levels with this, but yeah. I feel like test/NPP/tren/anavar would be a godly cutting/recomp stack.
 
That cycle would be amazing but like others have said I’d definitely have caber on hand as well as keeping estrogen in check. The not being able to bust is actually related to progesterone. I did both npp and Tren on a cycle and after pct It honestly messed me up for close to a year after.. Great aesthetic look though.
 
Can you expand on this statement? MENT is something I haven't really considered. I'm not estro prone or anything. I guess it just seemed excessive. Honestly this peaks my interest lo.
It's not excessive depending on the dose. 10 mg/day gives me better results than 500 mg/week test with less side effects. 25 mg/day feels as strong as at least a gram of test, but again with less side effects. Doses like 50 mg/day trest seem excessive to me. Some guys like high doses.

Trestolone is the best "feel good" steroid I've tried. It generally makes me feel optimistic and happy all day. It gives me a positive type of aggressive energy. I feel like I have endless stamina in the gym, and it makes me hornier than I was as a teenager. It would be worth it for me even if it didn't give such dramatic results with body composition.
 
It's not excessive depending on the dose. 10 mg/day gives me better results than 500 mg/week test with less side effects. 25 mg/day feels as strong as at least a gram of test, but again with less side effects. Doses like 50 mg/day trest seem excessive to me. Some guys like high doses.

Trestolone is the best "feel good" steroid I've tried. It generally makes me feel optimistic and happy all day. It gives me a positive type of aggressive energy. I feel like I have endless stamina in the gym, and it makes me hornier than I was as a teenager. It would be worth it for me even if it didn't give such dramatic results with body composition.
DHB is pretty great at the moment. Great lifts and feel good and horny and able to sleep.
Trest sounds interesting.

I like compound where the ratio is not out of wack like the horniness to tren, but then no sleep.


How much trest you use?
 
Can you expand on this statement? MENT is something I haven't really considered. I'm not estro prone or anything. I guess it just seemed excessive. Honestly this peaks my interest lo.
m314 said it well. I haven't gone higher than 5 mg per day, since I am just experimenting with it right now, pretty much entirely for the mental benefits as the winter can be pretty rough for me mentally. Cruise levels of trest are about 500-700 MICROgrams per day. I have been experimenting with 2.5-5mg per day on top of my NPP/Test cycle. So far, I am loving it; as I mentioned, it really has some excellent mental effects.

Even at this "low" dose, which is still pretty damn high compared to cruise levels, I should see anabolic benefits too, but it is impossible to tell with the NPP/Test. I haven't had any issues with estrogen levels. I take .25 mg of adex every 3 days or so. I actually haven't really had to change my AI levels at all with the trest added in. For the record I pin my test EOD (140 mg), NPP daily, and MENT daily with my NPP.

I do let my E2 ride pretty high though since I don't have to worry about gyno due to full gland removal. My last blood test had total T at 4650 ng/dL and e2 at 143 pg/dL and I was feeling great. I never have any water retention or blood pressure issues, even with my E2 that high. No acne other than a few little bumps mainly on my shoulders here and there--I am pretty sure it is actually just new hairs growing thanks to the androgenic effects lol--I just leave them alone and they go away. Libido is sky high, I'm servicing myself 1-2x per day and having sex once per day basically every day. Honestly I am excited for my libido to go down again and be back to normal so I can stop being so distracted.

Overall the MENT just really improves mental outlook. I am considering just continuing to cruise on it even after my cycle. I am lot more positive, have more energy, I laugh more and feel more resilient to stress. I am looking forward to actually just trying a MENT cycle in the future.

The only problem with it is that there is essentially zero DHT production, as it is not a substrate for 5-alpha reductase, so you need some amount of test every so often, or a DHT derivative perhaps like proviron to ensure you aren't missing that. One guy on reddit was cruising at 700 mcg per day then was doing like 50 mg of test every 5 days (I think?) just to keep DHT going and he was feeling great. Otherwise after a while you'll be essentially lacking any DHT and it's not gonna be fun. However, that is precisely why MENT is so anabolic and has so few side effects (as long as you manage estrogen, dose properly, and don't do something stupid like take it with dbol as they both metabolize to methylestradiols).

A few years ago the trestolone experience thread on reddit is literally just people saying "I grew tits and bloated into a manotee, it is nothing but side effects, estrogen is impossible to manage." I feel like they must have gotten something else, or maybe it was way over-dosed, because now most people seem to love it, though a lot of people say it is wet.

DHB is pretty great at the moment. Great lifts and feel good and horny and able to sleep.
Trest sounds interesting.

I like compound where the ratio is not out of wack like the horniness to tren, but then no sleep.


How much trest you use?

Come on bro you gotta give a little more info than that! :P

Any PIP with the DHB? That's all I seem to hear about. What is the concentration of the oil you're using?

What dose are you running and how often are you pinning it? What else are you running with it?
 
m314 said it well. I haven't gone higher than 5 mg per day, since I am just experimenting with it right now, pretty much entirely for the mental benefits as the winter can be pretty rough for me mentally. Cruise levels of trest are about 500-700 MICROgrams per day. I have been experimenting with 2.5-5mg per day on top of my NPP/Test cycle. So far, I am loving it; as I mentioned, it really has some excellent mental effects.

Even at this "low" dose, which is still pretty damn high compared to cruise levels, I should see anabolic benefits too, but it is impossible to tell with the NPP/Test. I haven't had any issues with estrogen levels. I take .25 mg of adex every 3 days or so. I actually haven't really had to change my AI levels at all with the trest added in. For the record I pin my test EOD (140 mg), NPP daily, and MENT daily with my NPP.

I do let my E2 ride pretty high though since I don't have to worry about gyno due to full gland removal. My last blood test had total T at 4650 ng/dL and e2 at 143 pg/dL and I was feeling great. I never have any water retention or blood pressure issues, even with my E2 that high. No acne other than a few little bumps mainly on my shoulders here and there--I am pretty sure it is actually just new hairs growing thanks to the androgenic effects lol--I just leave them alone and they go away. Libido is sky high, I'm servicing myself 1-2x per day and having sex once per day basically every day. Honestly I am excited for my libido to go down again and be back to normal so I can stop being so distracted.

Overall the MENT just really improves mental outlook. I am considering just continuing to cruise on it even after my cycle. I am lot more positive, have more energy, I laugh more and feel more resilient to stress. I am looking forward to actually just trying a MENT cycle in the future.

The only problem with it is that there is essentially zero DHT production, as it is not a substrate for 5-alpha reductase, so you need some amount of test every so often, or a DHT derivative perhaps like proviron to ensure you aren't missing that. One guy on reddit was cruising at 700 mcg per day then was doing like 50 mg of test every 5 days (I think?) just to keep DHT going and he was feeling great. Otherwise after a while you'll be essentially lacking any DHT and it's not gonna be fun. However, that is precisely why MENT is so anabolic and has so few side effects (as long as you manage estrogen, dose properly, and don't do something stupid like take it with dbol as they both metabolize to methylestradiols).

A few years ago the trestolone experience thread on reddit is literally just people saying "I grew tits and bloated into a manotee, it is nothing but side effects, estrogen is impossible to manage." I feel like they must have gotten something else, or maybe it was way over-dosed, because now most people seem to love it, though a lot of people say it is wet.



Come on bro you gotta give a little more info than that! :p

Any PIP with the DHB? That's all I seem to hear about. What is the concentration of the oil you're using?

What dose are you running and how often are you pinning it? What else are you running with it?
Brewed at 100 mg/ml. Pinning ED. Zero pip at all. I put in the same syringe with test cyp, then on MWF i pin EQ with those other 2 compounds. So on test cyp, EQ, and DHB. Totaling 700 test C, 350 DHB and 450 EQ. I just bumped the DHB up to 500 mg a week ago. Also using hgh at 4 iu.

overall i feel great, i have ran all these before besides DHB, but being EQ is not in my system (as its only been 4-5 weeks) test C and DHB are. I feel better then then just being on test, and no weird sides like tren. No anxiety and sleep great.

i just feel more energy, and great lifts in the gym with a great pump.
 
@m314 @MFAAS

Thank you both! I will definitely put more time into research for this compound! Sounds like a great fit for me personally. I don't have any estro problems and have even at higher test never had gyno issues. After I come off this fall for a bit to have another kid I will consider it!

Would you guys consider using this on a cut?
 
@m314 @MFAAS

Thank you both! I will definitely put more time into research for this compound! Sounds like a great fit for me personally. I don't have any estro problems and have even at higher test never had gyno issues. After I come off this fall for a bit to have another kid I will consider it!

Would you guys consider using this on a cut?
I definitely could consider using MENT on a cut. I haven't used higher doses yet though, so it might be too wet at high doses...I am thinking it'd be fine though at least for me personally, as I never have issues with water retention on any compounds. However, if I did have any bloat, personally I would just run some anavar along with it to dry out a bit.

In fact, this summer when I do my first tren cycle (cutting), I may do the ~2.5ish mg of MENT on top the tren after a few weeks. We'll see though.
 
However, if I did have any bloat, personally I would just run some anavar along with it to dry out a bit.

By FAR my absolute favorite compound! Lipids and bloods never change. For me personally a little goes a very long way. 40mg ED 6 weeks type of thing, feel great look dry and vascular.

One of those things I would never hesitate to throw in on the back end of a bulk or cut.
 
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DHB is pretty great at the moment. Great lifts and feel good and horny and able to sleep.
Trest sounds interesting.

I like compound where the ratio is not out of wack like the horniness to tren, but then no sleep.


How much trest you use?
I've been a fan of DHB since my first cycle in 2004. I wish I had stocked up on raws before the ban in 2005. There were a few years when I couldn't find it at all.

I like "enhanced cruises" with 200 mg/week test and 5 - 10 mg/day trest ace. I up the trest to 20 - 25 mg/day for actual cycles. I've never gone over 30 mg/day.
 
@m314 @MFAAS

Thank you both! I will definitely put more time into research for this compound! Sounds like a great fit for me personally. I don't have any estro problems and have even at higher test never had gyno issues. After I come off this fall for a bit to have another kid I will consider it!

Would you guys consider using this on a cut?
I love trestolone on a cut. It gives me tons of energy for high volume workouts, so it helps me burn more calories. It seems to have a thermogenic effect like tren, which burns even more calories. It makes me feel great overall even in a steep deficit. Building actual muscle while losing fat is possible with a more moderate deficit.

Trest can make me a little bloated at higher doses, so it can hide some of the visual effects on a cut. That's the only thing I think is better about tren. Tren makes you look leaner than you would with a comparable dose of trest.
 
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