Is a puffy/moon face really unavoidable on test?

[Exister0]

Bump for serious answers. Srs there’s plenty of guys who notice their faces blowing up on trt

 

[chtenna94]

water weight/fat gain is REQUIRED TO GAIN MASS AND HAVE EFFECTIVE WORKOUTS.

Totally agree ... if bloat is too high then it might be a result of high e2 in my opinion

 

[chtenna94]

Bump for serious answers. Srs there’s plenty of guys who notice their faces blowing up on trt

I think some guys are more prone to it than others and also I believe it’s a symptom of high e2... there will always be a little bloat on you though unless of course they are dry compounds and don’t aromatize ... test is a wet compound... winstrol is a dry compound...so are tren and Anavar so no bloat just those lean dry gains

 

[jJjburton]

You must have a lot of enemies if you need your gf in Public to ensure your protection.

Also, I don't believe in doing that. I'd much rather test the strength of my high clearance bumper or something along those lines.

A brown belt?? Woah, well that's nothing because I'm like totally an ex navy seal with 17000 confirmed kills with the longest 360 no scope head shot in recorded history of 14 miles. I think I've got you beat

**also curious how I suddenly became a roid freak and thug when I've done you no wrong

Cant you spot a troll when you see one? Do you really think someone on a steroids internet form types like that. When i read his texts for some reason my inner dialogue goes into a robot voice. This has never happened before lol. Didnt even know i had an inner dialogue robot voice. Lol.

 

[jJjburton]

I am amazed at how no one realizes he is purely trolling.

Yes its odd.

 

[jJjburton]

Cant you spot a troll when you see one? Do you really think someone on a steroids internet form types like that. When i read his texts for some reason my inner dialogue goes into a robot voice. This has never happened before lol. Didnt even know i had an inner dialogue robot voice. Lol.

Why was this thread bumped! Dammit!

 

[Exister0]

Why was this thread bumped! Dammit!

Because I wanted serious replies. Not angry middle aged men yelling at me.

 

[Exister0]

I think some guys are more prone to it than others and also I believe it’s a symptom of high e2... there will always be a little bloat on you though unless of course they are dry compounds and don’t aromatize ... test is a wet compound... winstrol is a dry compound...so are tren and Anavar so no bloat just those lean dry gains

Thanks. So the best solution would be to run such dry compounds alongside test in order to prevent excess water? Can an extremely low SHBG also cause acute effects from test injections?

 

[jJjburton]

Because I wanted serious replies. Not angry middle aged men yelling at me.

Deep down you know you really like it. Lol

just kidding.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Thanks. So the best solution would be to run such dry compounds alongside test in order to prevent excess water? Can an extremely low SHBG also cause acute effects from test injections?

Shbg decreases with use of exogenous androgens. It is just a modulator hormone. Diet, bro. That the only way. Thats one of the number one ways you can tell if some one is on gear. If you can find before and after pics of people you can tell by their head size and facial features that they are cycling. Just google common celebrities. They are a good example because they use gear for a role and either come off or greatly reduce dose and you can tell. Whats one of the easiest ways to tell? Face and head. I mean moon face like I said is a diet issue mostly and secondly a gear issue but you will always have musclular hypertrophy of face and other muscles around your head. The drugs were designed to work without stimulus, they were not made for body builders.

 

[Exister0]

Shbg decreases with use of exogenous androgens. It is just a modulator hormone. Diet, bro. That the only way. Thats one of the number one ways you can tell if some one is on gear. If you can find before and after pics of people you can tell by their head size and facial features that they are cycling. Just google common celebrities. They are a good example because they use gear for a role and either come off or greatly reduce dose and you can tell. Whats one of the easiest ways to tell? Face and head. I mean moon face like I said is a diet issue mostly and secondly a gear issue but you will always have musclular hypertrophy of face and other muscles around your head. The drugs were designed to work without stimulus, they were not made for body builders.

So would you recommend keeping carbs low with a moderate caloric deficit?

 

[KingCahoot3627]

Tia chi does give me moon face. Im an Avocado belt instructor too.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

So would you recommend keeping carbs low with a moderate caloric deficit?

In a deficit you can definetly have better luck avoiding those side effects. If your doing a hard cut you could reduce carbs. If your doing a slower cut def leave the carbs and reduce fats. On gear you dont need as much fats because their primary function is to make cholesterol which makes hormones. So at that point fat is just calories after a certain amount. You will maintain more muscle and have better workouts. Glucose is much more available when it comes directly from carbs as opposed to being converted from fat.

 

[Exister0]

In a deficit you can definetly have better luck avoiding those side effects. If your doing a hard cut you could reduce carbs. If your doing a slower cut def leave the carbs and reduce fats. On gear you dont need as much fats because their primary function is to make cholesterol which makes hormones. So at that point fat is just calories after a certain amount. You will maintain more muscle and have better workouts. Glucose is much more available when it comes directly from carbs as opposed to being converted from fat.

Makes sense. Why is it that a lot of guys starting trt complain of bloating? 100-200 mgs of test shouldn’t significantly increase estrogen.

 

[lilhawk]

A lot of the facial bloat is due to poor diet, excess sodium, sugar, etc. It's almost impossible to have a bloated face on a diet.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Makes sense. Why is it that a lot of guys starting trt complain of bloating? 100-200 mgs of test shouldn’t significantly increase estrogen.

Water weight gain. Glycogen, atp, creatine. More test also means more aromatization so its just more than they usually get but most even out over time. Ya also do t know what their diet is like. Trt people arent always fitness minded. So they eat crap then get on a aas and there ya go

 

[Logan44551]

I’m in the process of going vegan and living an enlightened lifestyle. I don’t need that kind of negativity and bullying in my life. But even if one of you roid freaks were to try and harm me irl I have a brown belt in TaeKwanDo and TaiChi. Plus I never go out in public by myself always with my gf or friends. So I am pretty much protected from thugs like you

Troll

 

[jJjburton]

Troll

Its scary when someone like cdnguy makes a new profile every month for years, just to have an “old profile” that doesnt show a new member, just to troll. That my friend is someone who is commited to the sport of trolling. Thats professional status, AAA rated.

 

[chtenna94]

Thanks. So the best solution would be to run such dry compounds alongside test in order to prevent excess water? Can an extremely low SHBG also cause acute effects from test injections?

Low shbg would result in your test to be destroyed even faster by your liver as opposed to it being destroyed at a normal rate. Either way you go high shbg low or neutral test will be processed through your liver and you will lose some through there as well. insufficient shbg allows extra metabolism into DHT and E2... Test is also broke down at a faster rate... ideally you want free test and shbg to be around the same .... the lower your shbg the higher your E2 would increase while on. Your more prone to gyno and other high E2 symptoms. Is your main concern holding water? You could make sure E2 is in check and also run test at a lower dose depending on what else your stacking with.

 

[Exister0]

Troll

I’m not a troll. Please stop with the insults. I’ve had an emotional day today and just need some support.