I don't hate innovagen either. I think around 2010-2015 when his main competition was labs like teragon, kintec, etc he was at the top. But now there are few very good labs in Canada.....so there is real competition.
But the fact that he's put out bad cialis/viagra for so many years with so many complaints and he's never cared to change it, makes me not think highly of the lab owner. As all you know things like viagra, clenbuterol, trenbolone, maybe even proviron (if you take high enough dose)..these products you 100% know you have the real deal if you take enough of it. So you can't pull the excuse of get bloodwork or send it out for testing. If I am taking 50mcg real clen or like 100mg of real viagra....I don't need no test to tell me if it legit lol. It work or it doesn't.
as a whole I don't think the owner really gives a shit about his clients. I think Innovagen is a decent lab, just not top tier lab. Good injectables. Okay orals. Hit and miss with anti estrogens and sexual meds. The fancy stuff...I mean who the hell knows nothing to compare it to...but again if you cannot get basic product like viagra or cialis right...then It's hard to trust u with some fancy product.