Will i gain some pounds while on test / anavar while in a caloric deficit ??

[Jamesw94]

Hi im 5ft 8 160lbs 16% bf.
Will i gain extra muscle weight while taking 500mg test / week even on a cutting cycle of 500 calorie deficit? Help would be appreciated

( Ideally I would like to be 170lbs on the leaner side )

Do you think a 12 week cycle of test / anavar with a 500 caloric deficit this is achievable while dropping a few numbers on the bf %

Cheers!

 

[Exister0]

You weigh 160 lbs, you don't need any gear at all yet

So?
I’ve cut down to 135lbs at 5’11...

as advised by my coach VigorousSteve.

Basically. ate under 800 calories with just fruits and vegetables.

However,... with 5mg of anavar I still remained in an anabolic state

which helped with performance in the gym.

 

[FlatlandLifter]

So?
I’ve cut down to 135lbs at 5’11...

as advised by my coach VigorousSteve.

Basically. ate under 800 calories with just fruits and vegetables.

However,... with 5mg of anavar I still remained in an anabolic state

which helped with performance in the gym.

But... why

 

[Exister0]

But... why

I

Was advised to reset my body from inflammation and oxidative stress...

while ALSo improving cardiovascular health

which. Is something i now take seriously..ANd.

most importantly, facial aesthetics

as I Have stated before. I am in the modeling industry when not bodybuilding.

 

[Exister0]

I dropped to 135 as most women now are into cute guys. I also like the dominant ones so bring smaller helps me attract the right kind that are aggressive. I also notice now my face is more smaller and features sharper

 

[Demondosage]

I dropped to 135 as most women now are into cute guys. I also like the dominant ones so bring smaller helps me attract the right kind that are aggressive. I also notice now my face is more smaller and features sharper

So basically you are into being pegged in the ass with a strap on and told you're a little bitch. "Cute guys"? You sure you are a male here?

 

[Dthcore]

So basically you are into being pegged in the ass with a strap on and told you're a little bitch. "Cute guys"? You sure you are a male here?

Hey man, there someone out there for everyone. But I think the answer is a close yes. Lol

 

[VaDImadi]

Would you say a better outcome is eating an extra 500 over maintenence is possible then

Well DUH

 

[Silentlemon1011]

I

Was advised to reset my body from inflammation and oxidative stress...

while ALSo improving cardiovascular health

which. Is something i now take seriously..ANd.

most importantly, facial aesthetics

as I Have stated before. I am in the modeling industry when not bodybuilding.

If you want to stay at almost 6 feet and 150 lbs..
Just dont take gear.
At all.
You seriously dont need it whatsoever.

Just train a tiny bit and go for a jog on occasion.

Fuck, I'm 6ish and 230lbs (After a solid cut)
and a GOOD coach (Notice how I emphasized good?) would tell me I have room to grow on TRT only by dialing in macros and upping training intensity

Skip the gear, eat some chicken

 

[RzSco]

165 lbs at 6'2 was my lean natty limit after three years training. Fucking 200 Ng/dL test and ectomorph frame, wish I had realised sooner.

220 here I come... Eventually

 

[Demondosage]

165 lbs at 6'2 was my lean natty limit after three years training. Fucking 200 Ng/dL test and ectomorph frame, wish I had realised sooner.

220 here I come... Eventually

It can be done. An old training partner of mine had the absolute worst genetics ever for bodybuilding. He was a lanky 6'2 with long limbs and maybe 140 lbs tops when he began lifting weights. That guy got up to 215 lbs within about 3 years and that was drug free, but he ate his ass off to get there. He made food like his job and trained harder than hell.

 

[Exister0]

If you want to stay at almost 6 feet and 150 lbs..
Just dont take gear.
At all.
You seriously dont need it whatsoever.

Just train a tiny bit and go for a jog on occasion.

Fuck, I'm 6ish and 230lbs (After a solid cut)
and a GOOD coach (Notice how I emphasized good?) would tell me I have room to grow on TRT only by dialing in macros and upping training intensity

Skip the gear, eat some chicken

The gear. allows for optimum nutrient absorption. This is a must for me as I wan t to stay 5% body fat

especially now that it is summer and my gf expects more or less for me to be. Able to be handled in bed

 

[Exister0]

So basically you are into being pegged in the ass with a strap on and told you're a little bitch. "Cute guys"? You sure you are a male here?

Ummm no?

I prefer just them being on top in the dominant position

 

[Blange89]

This thread is so weird

 

[Exister0]

This thread is so weird

Well tbh I have been pegged with strap on by a lesbian couple and it actually was the best experience I’ve had. This motivated me to take my physique to the next level and go on winstrol and 800mg masteron cycle. Added anavar to really bring my cheekbones to surface

 

[Live_Evil]

I honestly have to wonder if anyone who claims you can't build muscle while in a deficit has even tried. This is an age old myth that needs to die.

Noob gains alone yield relatively high amounts of fat loss and simultaneous muscle accrual. Give AAS to a couch potato and have them train only twice a week and they'll recomp effortlessly.

Is it optimal? Not at all, but it happens, and AAS makes it pretty god damned easy, unless you're truly near or past your genetic limit. At 160 lbs this guy will not have any trouble building muscle in a deficit if it isn't a steep deficit, he works his ass off, and achieves that deficit through energy expenditure rather than severely limiting his caloric intake. Especially if he's a noob.

OP, a ton of people online just repeat what they've been told so they fit into the mold of the forum they frequent.

If you're going to do this, do the damn blood work, and hit at least 500mg per week of test. Anavar at 30mg per day or higher is quite effective. You could push it to 75mg daily if you're feeling ballsy, but that's a pretty manly dose.

I'd take cardarine and berberine too. Both will help with nutrient partitioning, heart health, and fat loss, but that's up to you.

 

[Live_Evil]

I

Was advised to reset my body from inflammation and oxidative stress...

while ALSo improving cardiovascular health

which. Is something i now take seriously..ANd.

most importantly, facial aesthetics

as I Have stated before. I am in the modeling industry when not bodybuilding.

Vigorous Steve certainly knows his shit.

 

[Demondosage]

Well tbh I have been pegged with strap on by a lesbian couple and it actually was the best experience I’ve had. This motivated me to take my physique to the next level and go on winstrol and 800mg masteron cycle. Added anavar to really bring my cheekbones to surface

Yes, because anavar is known to bring peoples cheek bones out.

This makes a lot of sense, "I go to the gym to build muscles and become a man, to let a couple lesbos take advantage of me"

Smh....

 

[Trenbologna]

Would i be wrong in throwing in some dbol for the first 3-4 weeks to put on some lean mass?

If you want an oral I would suggest anadrol or anavar over dbol in a caloric deficit. Just my two cents. It can help with hunger cravings for many and it's always been said they are both known to help build muscle for certain muscle wasting conditions. You don't need a lot just 25mg/day and see if that doesn't help. I wouldn't go over 50mg. I would choose drol or var over dbol in a caloric deficit. That is not to say dbol won't still work, it will so if you already have it then use it. Again I would say take a lower dose and make sure to you are taking in high protein. I would suggest 1.5g of protein per pound of ideal body weight for you. So if your ideal lean bodyweight number is 200lbs then that's 300g of protein. (It also depends on which compounds you are taking. For example, trenbolone doesn't increase protein synthesis much. But it does drastically decrease protein breakdown, so the net effect is muscle building. But it doesn't require an increase in protein intake because your rate of protein synthesis isn't elevated).
I would stick with 1.5lbs per pound of ideal bodyweight during your cycle while in a caloric deficit. Also spread out your protein intake throughout the day. While on a cycle your protein synthesis rate is elevated 24/7. That means you will not only benefit from a higher protein intake but also from more frequent feedings. You will benefit from a constant influx of protein in your bloodstream.

 

[Trenbologna]

If you want an oral I would suggest anadrol or anavar over dbol in a caloric deficit. Just my two cents. It can help with hunger cravings for many and it's always been said they are both known to help build muscle for certain muscle wasting conditions. You don't need a lot just 25mg/day and see if that doesn't help. I wouldn't go over 50mg. I would choose drol or var over dbol in a caloric deficit. That is not to say dbol won't still work, it will so if you already have it then use it. Again I would say take a lower dose and make sure to you are taking in high protein. I would suggest 1.5g of protein per pound of ideal body weight for you. So if your ideal lean bodyweight number is 200lbs then that's 300g of protein. (It also depends on which compounds you are taking. For example, trenbolone doesn't increase protein synthesis much. But it does drastically decrease protein breakdown, so the net effect is muscle building. But it doesn't require an increase in protein intake because your rate of protein synthesis isn't elevated).
I would stick with 1.5lbs per pound of ideal bodyweight during your cycle while in a caloric deficit. Also spread out your protein intake throughout the day. While on a cycle your protein synthesis rate is elevated 24/7. That means you will not only benefit from a higher protein intake but also from more frequent feedings. You will benefit from a constant influx of protein in your bloodstream.

Not sure why everyone is saying you can't add muscle during a caloric deficit while on a cycle. Maybe you have to be fat for this to occur but it worked for these guys and they weren't even taking gear. I say this effect would be even more pronounced while enhanced.

Effect of a hypocaloric diet, increased protein intake and resistance training on lean mass gains and fat mass loss in overweight police officers - PubMed

We compare the effects of a moderate hypocaloric, high-protein diet and resistance training, using two different protein supplements, versus hypocaloric diet alone on body compositional changes in overweight police officers. A randomized, prospective 12-week study was performed comparing the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Losing fat while gaining muscle: Scientists close in on 'holy grail' of diet and exercise

Researchers have uncovered significant new evidence in the quest for the elusive goal of gaining muscle and losing fat, an oft-debated problem for those trying to manage their weight, control their calories and balance their protein consumption.

www.sciencedaily.com

 

[Millard]

The OP asked two questions. The answer is different for each

1) Can he gain muscle in a caloric deficit?

Yes. He can even lose weight and gain muscle. For example, he could go from 160 to 158 and still gain 8 lbs of muscle if he loses 10 lbs of bodyfat. This is more easily done with novice trainers.

2) Can he go from 160 lbs to 170 lbs in a caloric deficit?

No. I guess it's possible for some water retention to result in added LBM and perhaps a small increase in caloric efficiency. But 10 lbs? And not what we mean by muscle.