Any clothing companies that dont categorize things as "gender neutral, pride, etc"?

It's all marketing. Do you think these companies really care about John and Jack who want gay marriage and genderless children?

Of course not, but they know that John and Jack will look at these companies as being supportive of what they believe in and that translates into cash money for these companies.
EXACTLY
Follow the money. The companies don't give a shit about anything but the bottom line.
 
EXACTLY
Follow the money. The companies don't give a shit about anything but the bottom line.
this is pretty much true.

however if anyone tries to use this as a critique of capitalism I don't think that would be valid. its more a cultural problem in the west. while the Middle East for example is far from perfect, they do not promote homosexuality, gang culture, children out of wedlock, glorify single mothers. kids over there know who the hell their daddy is and they know the difference between a boy and girl
 
this is pretty much true.

however if anyone tries to use this as a critique of capitalism I don't think that would be valid. its more a cultural problem in the west. while the Middle East for example is far from perfect, they do not promote homosexuality, gang culture, children out of wedlock, glorify single mothers. kids over there know who the hell their daddy is and they know the difference between a boy and girl
It is absolutely a critique of capitalism. Culture is downstream from power. The powers that be place money above all else, and the culture follows. Civil rights, feminism, lgbt etc. from the perspective of lawmakers and the people above them are not moral issues, they are economic issues. More workers, more tax payers, more consumers.

You could claim it’s not a critique of free trade, on a micro level, but your still going to end up with the same problems at a societal level because it’s impossible to separate power, culture and the economy.

Look at it another way. If you were in power and you valued money (and power) above all else, you would want to turn the world into Las Vegas. It would be entirely in the interest of free trade and capitalism to turn the world into Sin City. At least in the short term.

In 50 years your going to have problems (which we are starting to see now) but that’s not a factor that has much influence.
 
As to the OP, I have a bit of an issue with companies changing basic classifications of things to appease a vocal minority in situations that are trivial. Boys/Girls clothes, you don't have prove your gender (or whatever the fuck you view it as) to buy clothes or, hopefully, wear them.

I wear certain clothes that are from companies owned by gays, designed by gays and marketed by gays. I'm a very masculine man, married to a beautiful woman who really likes the clothes I wear. We have two straight sons(not that I care about the straight part) who like the clothes I wear, and follow in my footsteps. The girls at their school love the clothes they wear.

Our clothes don't have gay pride written all over them, it's not an in your face thing. In fact, the clothes fit much better and are of great quality.

BUT when a simple thing like sizing and classification of clothes changes just bc a few want to push their agenda on society, so long clothing company. Your right in saying my second vote is at the cash register.

Oh yeah, I do have many gay friends and even they are a little bit weirded out by how corporations are clamoring to cater to what they thing most gays want. A normal person, who is gay, just wants to live life and not have to be reminded that they are gay, it's just who they are. Now the sht-heads that throw it in your face have personal issues that aren't based in being gay.

And don't start on how this relates to pronouns. If someone tells me what I should call them pronoun wise I skip calling what they want and just label them "asshole" "dickhead" "tool"
You explained this perfectly. Yes, 100%, it's not the ppl' s identity or choices I have an issue with, it's how it's pushed by greedy assholes that could care less abt the ppl they claim to support. And ppl swallow it hook, line and sinker!!

We are taught to identify ppl by some sort of label, color, orientation now, when it should just be ppl and whether they are good ppl or not. It's the fucking agenda I have an issue with myself. Thanks for explaining this like you did, you summed up what I was trying to say in a much more descriptive and accurate way!
 
I’ve never been in any store that didn’t have girls, boys, men’s, women’s sections and I go shopping a couple times a week.
what stores are you going to?
 
I’ve never been in any store that didn’t have girls, boys, men’s, women’s sections and I go shopping a couple times a week.
what stores are you going to?
Well, first off my son is at the size/age now where I could either go a men's small or a kids 16-18. Well, the issue I'm having is that we are looking for dress clothes like polo shirts, button ups etc, and all these places like Macy's, JC Penney etc, all the clothes look like shit!! If you want your kid to wear some mesh basketball shorts and some idiot phrase T-shirt they have you covered though.

So I get online and start looking at places like Gap, Old Navy, Banana Republic, and I keep seeing this recurring theme of "gender neutral clothing" and this shit looks like onesie pajamas for adults. They look like clothes for mentally challenged ppl that sit around and piss and shit themselves all day!

Then I notice there is this pride collection they all have. Well, my issue isn't so much gay ppl, it's the fact that everyone wants to be treated equal yet they continue to seperate themselves with this stupid shit on the daily. So I'm like ,"I don't want to support these places, I would rather support a place that sells clothing to all ppl without announcing it to certain ones like they're special. If your a guy just buy a nice shirt and STFU whether you are gay, straight, whatever!

But I'm pretty sure it's a losing battle here, as someone said before when you are all abt the bottom dollar you'll do anything to sell shit!
 

 
 
It is absolutely a critique of capitalism. Culture is downstream from power. The powers that be place money above all else, and the culture follows. Civil rights, feminism, lgbt etc. from the perspective of lawmakers and the people above them are not moral issues, they are economic issues. More workers, more tax payers, more consumers.

You could claim it’s not a critique of free trade, on a micro level, but your still going to end up with the same problems at a societal level because it’s impossible to separate power, culture and the economy.

Look at it another way. If you were in power and you valued money (and power) above all else, you would want to turn the world into Las Vegas. It would be entirely in the interest of free trade and capitalism to turn the world into Sin City. At least in the short term.

In 50 years your going to have problems (which we are starting to see now) but that’s not a factor that has much influence.

Id have to think more about this one you bring up good points....

The homosexual agenda has definitely thrived and degenerate culture in capitalist america, but is it more due to poor culture, democracy, or capitalism?

If the culture did not first adopt homosexuality, then capitalism would not push it.

Or is the problem democracy, aka, mob rule? When the homosexual agenda movement gains steam, due to democracy (mob rule) it could not be stopped ? and we now have what we do today where LGBTQ is now worshiped by gays and straights alike, almost like the religion of america
 

Awesome!! Man I forgot all abt that father & son's brand. It looks really nice, I'm not sure how the slim for would go over for some ppl that work out, but there is enough to choose from there for sure. Stuff looks damn good too, I don't mind paying for quality. Thanks again for this suggestion!!
 
Awesome!! Man I forgot all abt that father & son's brand. It looks really nice, I'm not sure how the slim for would go over for some ppl that work out, but there is enough to choose from there for sure. Stuff looks damn good too, I don't mind paying for quality. Thanks again for this suggestion!!
No problem. Glad I could help
 
I can't believe I visit a steroid site to see offended snowflakes ranting and crying their leftist bullshit because a guy asks for recommendations for where he can buy his teenage boy (male) some clothing.

I did not realize that not buying from companies that make a big deal out of sexual perversions means that Demondosage wants to see homosexuals thrown in prison, beaten, or killed.

Either make a recommendation or take your crying, offended monologue to your own thread, with a topic about how we all have to shop at the store with the biggest rainbow flag or we are, like, for sure, the biggest bigots.
 

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