And here I am thinking to myself ,"only 10 cycles?" I have 20 years and about 50 under my belt, hahaha
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
AM I TAKING TOO MUCH??
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Great build btw, thanks for sharing with us
Gbro
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You look great. Keep doing what you're doing.
cigardave007
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@ZKJ Looking very good. Sensible proven dosages, good gains, and hopefully controllable sides. Most of us should have started this way. Too many average joes doing huge complicated cycles way too soon. Nice to see someone really think out their cycles. Good job
ZKJ
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ZKJ
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Cheers man
nealcaffrey16
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everything looking fine to me, sensible and reasonable usage. I was getting a little irked with suggestions of the 10 cycles being "so much" lol. Like we all haven't done well into the double digits around here? pfffffffffffffffff 
Ninjaturtle2020
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I've only done 1 thus far but I made sure to do it well loleverything looking fine to me, sensible and reasonable usage. I was getting a little irked with suggestions of the 10 cycles being "so much" lol. Like we all haven't done well into the double digits around here? pfffffffffffffffff
AlwaysHungry
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You just changing the look if not increasing the dosage and the calories.
I just see a steady physique no big improvements just changing the look
I just see a steady physique no big improvements just changing the look
AlwaysHungry
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A little higher test base 750 and 300-400 of npp along with an oral dbol/drol will do what you want.
Also don't miss training days bring a notebook and beat your numbers from a workout to another.
Let your appetite grow and eat easily a good amount of kcals no less than 4.000 no more than 5.000.
Also don't miss training days bring a notebook and beat your numbers from a workout to another.
Let your appetite grow and eat easily a good amount of kcals no less than 4.000 no more than 5.000.
As to your original question: no you're not using too much. In fact you should probably up the tren to 150 and add anavar or winstrol. But you look like you will probably need some weight gainer shakes to put on any more muscle. There's a point where the anabolics want to make you muscle but doesn't have enough calories (or enough to steal from fat stores) that it can't unless you eat more. You're leaner than 15% bf. And stop skipping leg day!
ZKJ
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Yeah i could of made more gains even off the same doses, but im happy with a slow approach, if i can get to where i want on minimal dosage ill wait abit longer, if i could get to where i want natural i would do that. Even if it took alot longer. I might step up the doses if thats what it takes but ill make sure i use lower ones untill i see nothing from it sort of thing. When i started i was 55kg so ive put on over 30kg. 20kg of that was natural over 5 years. I started late aswell like 23. Just when my gh would of stopped and my natural test started to decline lol
ZKJ
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My metabolism is fast aswell,(grew up like a stick and could eat anything) I eat no less than 3000 on a cut but its usually around 3500 and i loose weight. I dont start gaining weight untill im eating around 4000 calories, but cheers for good advice. I like to hear these sort of ones. I prefer it as it makes me more motivated
ZKJ
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Haha i dont skip legs trust me, but i do keep them smaller on purpose, i dont want them too big. I like the old skool classic arnie look, but maybe abit better legs than him.
And i could easily eat more than i do so i wouldnt use a weightgainer shake untill i couldnt eat any more propper stuff (if i did i would just use a whey isolate and blended oats to bump up the calories), im holding my self back at the moment. Trying not to put too much on now,but more of a realistic amount so i know its more actual muscle tissue.
But i have been thinking about just eating hard and getting abit chubby lol as some pros like chris bumstead say you have to get abit chubby to get massive,but now i feel lean i do prefer it so im gunna try the lean bulk for abit then if i just dont go up by much weight ill go balls to the wall
Previous bulks ive used takeaways to try and bump the weight up,like 3+ a week, this one will be the first bulk ive done using just clean foods so hopefully ill get better results
Juicedhead
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Is this a joke ? 500mg of test with 100mg tren e? Too much? Lol are u kidding? That’s not enough dude…
ZKJ
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Na no joke, if it turned out to be equal to 1gram of test then it would of been to much of a jump compared to my previous cycle dosages.
One thing i try do is use as little as i can untill i dont see results, the last time i did 500 of test and 100 of tren igot good results and i was slacking when it came to diet and training, so i didnr up the dose as i reckon i could get better than last time off the same dose,maybe one day i will be using alot more but that wont be untill ive used lower doses first.
How much you using then?
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More does not always mean better. I agree with you that it is not too much...but I don't agree that it "isn't enough". More important factors are diet and training. The drugs compliment those, but taking more doesn't always mean you'll get more results. Especially if diet and exercise are not up to par.
ZKJ
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Your body tends to get used to gear aswell dont it? and needs more gear to get similar results so its always good to not increase dose untill you've gotten everything out of it, save on money and negative health sides, i brew my own gear though so its quite cheap really. Its mainly the health side of things.
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Juicedhead
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Yea definitely agree but at that low of doses you will notice a dramatic increase in results. Considering the guy has done 9 cycles, I would think it’s time to do some more gear..
