Foreveryoung456
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Can someone shed some light on how many iu of novlin per body LB I would use to grow?
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malfeasance
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I do not think you should dose it per pound at all. Do you dose your steroids this way? Growth hormone?
Foreveryoung456
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I'm pretty sure you dose it by ratio. I could be wrong tho.
malfeasance
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Where do you get this idea? More importantly, why is it time for you to add insulin to your hormones now? Tell us a little more if you want us to help.
Foreveryoung456
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Well, I'm a type 2 diabetic. I take 5-12 iu ed plus metformin. I've made decent gains with that. I've been training 20 years with 7 of them enhanced. I'm just curious and would like to turn it up a nothch. The reference range I speak about I read in muscle and development magazine. I'm just curious I suppose
malfeasance
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Ah, that puts it into a better context. I can't comment, though, as I have never heard of dosing it by bodyweight for bodybuilding purposes.
I followed the old method of starting low and increasing until it exceeds the carbs you are eating (hypo) and then back off - there is your dose.
I would not want to even attempt to advise an actual diabetic on insulin.
Since you are Type 2, though, and already insulin dependent, I guess you have been diabetic for far too long to reverse it? They have made a lot of strides in studies with fasting and hypo caloric diets first reversing and then, maintaining . . . all the research I have seen, though, shows better success early on in getting back to normal and staying non-diabetic. Longer term diabetics have less success.
I followed the old method of starting low and increasing until it exceeds the carbs you are eating (hypo) and then back off - there is your dose.
I would not want to even attempt to advise an actual diabetic on insulin.
Since you are Type 2, though, and already insulin dependent, I guess you have been diabetic for far too long to reverse it? They have made a lot of strides in studies with fasting and hypo caloric diets first reversing and then, maintaining . . . all the research I have seen, though, shows better success early on in getting back to normal and staying non-diabetic. Longer term diabetics have less success.
Type-IIx
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The major anabolic peptides, GH and slin, would make most sense to be based on body mass (m^2) due to their being pulsatilely released endogenously in a manner that scales with body mass. With GH, all the research up until very recently had used body mass to determine dose, until the WHO (I believe, I can look again) fairly recently put out a clinical advisory to stick to <2IU for most approved use, basically due to side effects (arthralgia, edema, that kind of thing).
Jestopherson
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I've never heard of it by pound but I'm extremely new to slin.
However for my friend who is 10lbs heavier, he used 6-8ius of huma for 80g carbs, I can only use 2-3 or risk going hypo with more. Some people are very sensitive to slin which is why I've seen it recommended to check your fasted bg, then post meal bg without slin. Then slowly introduce it while continuing to measure bg.
For your case I haven't got a fucking clue
However for my friend who is 10lbs heavier, he used 6-8ius of huma for 80g carbs, I can only use 2-3 or risk going hypo with more. Some people are very sensitive to slin which is why I've seen it recommended to check your fasted bg, then post meal bg without slin. Then slowly introduce it while continuing to measure bg.
For your case I haven't got a fucking clue
Foreveryoung456
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Ty for the feed back guys. As we all know going hypo or hyper can be very dangerous for any athlete. Since I'm diabetic I use a glucosameter 3-4 times and get exact numbers. That eliminates some of the risk. By far, slin is the most dangerous drug an athlete can mess with. 21 is the most novalin I've done. However, I do 21 of lantus every night before best. So I pack on the food before bed. I'm only running a small amount of slin rn. " Small for me is 6-12 ou 3x a day". When I can afford some test I'm gonna do a decent size blast with slin, test and possibly an oral.
