Ivermectin source?

[Villain]

Amazon has it for "horses"

Pills or paste? You need a script for it also.

 

[Villain]

Exactly. If someone wants to win a Darwin award, don't get in the way. Just ask one question when they get to the er. Did you get vaccinated? If not give them some ivermectin and send them home. Problem solved. Everyone's a winner.

Do you feel addicts who OD deserve Narcan?

 

[T&H]

Exactly. If someone wants to win a Darwin award, don't get in the way. Just ask one question when they get to the er. Did you get vaccinated? If not give them some ivermectin and send them home. Problem solved. Everyone's a winner.

Fully vaxed people are still getting it, spreading it, and dying from it. Exactly like unvaccinated people. And 3 boosters, talks of more...what a great vaccine, ha.

How anyone can still defend the vaccine as the only way out is brainwashed. Radical liberals absolutely have a mental disorder.

 

[Villain]

Fully vaxed people are still getting it, spreading it, and dying from it. Exactly like unvaccinated people. And 3 boosters, talks of more...what a great vaccine, ha.

How anyone can still defend the vaccine as the only way out is brainwashed. Radical liberals absolutely have a mental disorder.

Biggest difference between a vaxxed and unvaxxed person is that the unvaxxed person will never die of the vax or get its complications.

 

[theotherguy]

I’m convinced @Big_paul just likes to stir the pot. He pretty much only rattles off socialist talking points and leaves while everyone else fights with each other.

 

[Suprachica79]

Fully vaxed people are still getting it, spreading it, and dying from it. Exactly like unvaccinated people. And 3 boosters, talks of more...what a great vaccine, ha.

How anyone can still defend the vaccine as the only way out is brainwashed. Radical liberals absolutely have a mental disorder.

The vast majority of those who are vaccinated who get Covid have minor or no symptoms. The vast majority of people dying from it are unvaccinated. These are facts, like them or not. The incredibly overwhelming majority of those who get the vaccine do not die or even have anything more than minor flu-like (immune response) symptoms from the vaccine. The rates, I believe, are on par with every other vaccine we’ve ever administered. And with a level of scrutiny never seen before for a previous vaccine.

We can agree, though, on the fact that the vaccine being the only solution isn’t correct. It could have been, but we missed the boat on that when this entire pandemic was politicized. And to be clear, both sides of the aisle pushed this politically - one of which mishandled the response and thus blamed other for it, and the other side using it as political capital to further their own causes.

The whole thing fucking sucks. The end.

 

[Cherokee]

The vast majority of those who are vaccinated who get Covid have minor or no symptoms. The vast majority of people dying from it are unvaccinated. These are

75 percent of those who die are 65 or over.
And many are overweight or have other health problems.

facts, like them or not. The incredibly overwhelming majority of those who get the vaccine do not die or even have anything more than minor flu-like (immune response) symptoms from the vaccine. The rates, I believe, are on par with every other vaccine we’ve ever administered. And with a level of scrutiny never seen before for a previous vaccine.

We can agree, though, on the fact that the vaccine being the only solution isn’t correct. It could have been, but we missed the boat on that when this entire pandemic was politicized. And to be clear, both sides of the aisle pushed this politically - one of which mishandled the response and thus blamed other for it, and the other side using it as political capital to further their own causes.

The whole thing fucking sucks. The end.

As this virus mutates, it will become weaker and weaker. The latest variant is proving that.

 

[Suprachica79]

75 percent of those who die are 65 or over.
And many are overweight or have other health problems.

As this virus mutates, it will become weaker and weaker. The latest variant is proving that.

You are right, this latest mutation does appear to be weaker, and that is a good thing. But the delta variant before it was pretty horrific.

And yes, many of the people dying were older or had comorbidities…but not all of them. And I’m not entirely sure why that data point matters or why it’s such a big talking point. Does their life count for less because they’re older? Like, I care about my dad surviving, especially since my mom died at the beginning of the pandemic. Would you be more interested in “doing your part” if the majority of those dying were children? Is that why the polio vaccine got better traction? Some incredibly healthy people died, and many who did not die are dealing with long-term damage. For every death, there are countless others who are going to be dealing with decreased lung function, random neuropathy, and a whole host of other complications. Unfortunately, the optimal solution is long gone, so now we are forced to continue to hobble together a bunch of half-fixes that no one is happy with. I don’t appreciate having the government tell me I have to do something, least of which is injecting, something in me. But I didn’t need the government to force me to do it - I was happily in line for a ton of reasons, least of which is I work for a large Pharma company and know how the process works and how science works.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

Lol Jesus are you retarded? Ivermectin is very effective, and I have personal friends who used it and it worked.

And yes the vaccine is proven to give you heart conditions. However I'm looking to treat covid not get Myocarditis

Now off you fuck

You should have some NAC on hand as well. (We should all have a stockpile of it anyway tbh) Since I assume you’re into reading studies go chase down the one showing how NAC is really useful for those who have or are recovering from Covid. It’s interesting as Hell how many different things can help the body fight off and recover from a viral infection.

 

[Cherokee]

You are right, this latest mutation does appear to be weaker, and that is a good thing. But the delta variant before it was pretty horrific.

And yes, many of the people dying were older or had comorbidities…but not all of them. And I’m not entirely sure why that data point matters or why it’s such a big

Gotta weigh the cost/reward ratio. A lot of these other people would have died from something else.. well at least a percentage would have. Then again, everyone dies. Is it really relative when someone dies? Would it have been better if your loved one would have died 2 years from now? I doubt it. It would still be sad for you, be it yesterday or 2 years from now. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but.. it's a part of life.

talking point. Does their life count for less because they’re older? Like, I care about my dad surviving, especially since my mom died at the beginning of the pandemic. Would you be more interested in “doing your part” if the majority of those dying were

I'm rather self centered. I don't do anything for anyone, unless I benefit from it.

children? Is that why the polio vaccine got better traction? Some incredibly healthy people died, and many who did not die are dealing with long-term damage. For every death, there are countless others who are going to be dealing with decreased lung function, random neuropathy, and a whole host of other complications.

And.. we all die, sooner or later. If I were the only one to not die, I might have some sympathy, but I'm not. We all die. Piss on my grave, there is no purpose in life, why worry about death. Maybe I'll get my tombstone shaped as a Urinal?

Unfortunately, the optimal solution is long gone, so now we are forced to continue to hobble together a bunch of half-fixes that no one is happy with. I don’t appreciate having the government tell me I have to do something, least of which is injecting, something in me. But I didn’t need the government to force me to do it - I was happily in line for a ton of reasons, least of which is I work for a large Pharma company and know how the process works and how science works.

 

[oceanus99]

Fully vaxed people are still getting it, spreading it, and dying from it. Exactly like unvaccinated people. And 3 boosters, talks of more...what a great vaccine, ha.

How anyone can still defend the vaccine as the only way out is brainwashed. Radical liberals absolutely have a mental disorder.

This is like saying smokers and nonsmokers can both die of cancer. Which one is much more likely though?

Disclaimer: I think the vaccine mandate is stupid and despite my statement above, I do realize the chances of a healthy person dying from covid are like 1% or whatever it is. My point above doesn't change though. The vaccine drastically reduces your chances of a severe reaction from the virus.

 

[gobig2]

Well huge news this am Pfixer's covid drug reduced Hosp./Death by 89% in Final results. So now we clearly have a pill that works and cures covid in a few days if you catch the covid. Hopefully this forceful vax push will stop now.

Pfizer says Covid-19 pill near 90% effective in final analysis

Pfizer said final analysis of its antiviral Covid-19 pill still showed near 90% efficacy in preventing hospitalizations and deaths in high-risk patients.

www.cnbc.com

***Dolsten said Pfizer is looking to expand that output further as new variants, like the newly-discovered omicron, could push the need for antivirals substantially higher. Current vaccines appear to be less effective at preventing infection with omicron.****

 

[Villain]

Well huge news this am Pfixer's covid drug reduced Hosp./Death by 89% in Final results. So now we clearly have a pill that works and cures covid in a few days if you catch the covid. Hopefully this forceful vax push will stop now.

Amazes me that this is claiming to do the same thing that others claim IVM does. Oh that right - IVM is cheap and can’t be patented again for Pfizer to make billions off of. So basically Pfizer comes out with Pfivermectin.

But you’re right - if this works as great as they say, then there is no need for the vax mandate and push.

 

[99powerstroke]

I’m not saying the cure for COVID is tren, But I don’t know anyone on tren that got COVID. Just sayin….

 

[Suprachica79]

Gotta weigh the cost/reward ratio. A lot of these other people would have died from something else.. well at least a percentage would have. Then again, everyone dies. Is it really relative when someone dies? Would it have been better if your loved one would have died 2 years from now? I doubt it. It would still be sad for you, be it yesterday or 2 years from now. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but.. it's a part of life.

I'm rather self centered. I don't do anything for anyone, unless I benefit from it.

And.. we all die, sooner or later. If I were the only one to not die, I might have some sympathy, but I'm not. We all die. Piss on my grave, there is no purpose in life, why worry about death. Maybe I'll get my tombstone shaped as a Urinal?

When you have someone close to you, the difference from them dying today or a year from now is huge. All you want is time when it is being taken away from you. But at least you are being honest about being self-centered. Most people purport to be anti-vax for the greater good but really they are just being selfish. I guess it’s good that you freely admit it?

 

[theotherguy]

When you have someone close to you, the difference from them dying today or a year from now is huge. All you want is time when it is being taken away from you. But at least you are being honest about being self-centered. Most people purport to be anti-vax for the greater good but really they are just being selfish. I guess it’s good that you freely admit it?

Can you explain this to me? I don't understand why people think it is selfish to not get a vaccine

 

[Suprachica79]

Can you explain this to me? I don't understand why people think it is selfish to not get a vaccine

Because vaccines administered on a massive scale have demonstrated to irradicate diseases. The reason the polio, measles and mumps, and various other vaccines worked was due to everyone getting them and the virus having literally no where to go.

The Covid vaccine does reduce transmission and it does reduce infection. If all were vaccinated: the ability for the virus to do real harm would be vastly reduced, and there is also a portion of the population (children) who are not eligible yet and who are therefore at higher risk of getting it.

I think the major reason people find it selfish is due to the reason most people give about not wanting to get the vaccine - it’s my body, my choice. But it’s the same people who are anti-abortion or anti-gay marriage. So my body, my life, my choice only matters when it works for you. I’m not saying that’s your reason, but it’s one of the ones I hear most often. It’s also that this was politicized from the beginning because it was the only way to get the party in power to look better about how poorly they handled it: had it not been, I dont think even a tiny percentage of the people who are currently so against the vaccine but are for eating and bathing in magic dirt would not have been in line with the rest of us to be vaccinated. Previous pandemics and our response as a country to them show that.

As a citizen, when the vast majority of HCPs, scientists and major people in the medical community tell us something is bad and it needs to be handled, but we choose to ignore that and listen to a much smaller group of professionals or better yet political pundits, there is something fatally flawed about that.

 

[Villain]

The Covid vaccine does reduce transmission and it does reduce infection. If all were vaccinated: the ability for the virus to do real harm would be vastly reduced, and there is also a portion of the population (children) who are not eligible yet and who are therefore at higher risk of getting it.

Then why is 100% vaxxed Gibraltar still having record numbers of cases as well as 98% vaxxed Israel? Unlike the other vaxxes you mentioned, this new one is not the same.

 

[Suprachica79]

Then why is 100% vaxxed Gibraltar still having record numbers of cases as well as 98% vaxxed Israel? Unlike the other vaxxes you mentioned, this new one is not the same.

Gibraltar is not 100% vaxxed; as children have not been vaccinated and are counting for a large portion of the infection rate. Also, there are a fair number of infections among adults who are not fully vaccinated or are outside the timeline for booster. Disproportionate numbers of those being infected are unvaccinated. Of those who are vaccinated, the vaccine is keeping the infection to only mild or no symptoms.


This is a perfect example of data being used strongly out of context to provide a false sense of factual information. I think it should also be pointed out that the numbers in Gibraltar I believe (however I don’t study these super hard) very much mimic the clinical trial data from the vaccine trials, which were done on patient population sizes larger than the entire country of Gibraltar. These vaccine decrease transmission ( it appears the major transmitters are unvaccinated) and those infected who are vaccinated are not dying which is what the studies showed.

 

[theotherguy]

Because vaccines administered on a massive scale have demonstrated to irradicate diseases. The reason the polio, measles and mumps, and various other vaccines worked was due to everyone getting them and the virus having literally no where to go.

The Covid vaccine does reduce transmission and it does reduce infection. If all were vaccinated: the ability for the virus to do real harm would be vastly reduced, and there is also a portion of the population (children) who are not eligible yet and who are therefore at higher risk of getting it.

I think the major reason people find it selfish is due to the reason most people give about not wanting to get the vaccine - it’s my body, my choice. But it’s the same people who are anti-abortion or anti-gay marriage. So my body, my life, my choice only matters when it works for you. I’m not saying that’s your reason, but it’s one of the ones I hear most often. It’s also that this was politicized from the beginning because it was the only way to get the party in power to look better about how poorly they handled it: had it not been, I dont think even a tiny percentage of the people who are currently so against the vaccine but are for eating and bathing in magic dirt would not have been in line with the rest of us to be vaccinated. Previous pandemics and our response as a country to them show that.

I agree with you on your first paragraph there. SOME vaccines are really useful and the cure is better than the disease.

I think there are far too many unknowns with this "vaccine" and to demand people potentially put their health in jeopardy to help you protect your own health is incredibly selfish. There are a great many things people can do to improve their immunity, and me getting a shot is nowhere on that list. If public health is my responsibility, then am I allowed to start smacking unhealthy food out of people's hands when they attempt to eat those foods?

Look at the 38 page document that Pfizer finally released as part of the FOIA request. In the first 90 days of public inoculations there were 42000 people with 58000 claims of vaccine injuries, from just one manufacturer. 1200 of which were death. That is a higher mortality rate than COVID itself for every individual age group under 60, and overall mortality (all age groups combined). this does not account for all of the unreported issues either, so how high is the actual number of vaccine injuries?

It is incredibly terrible logic to say that someone is selfish for using the "my body, my choice" argument. Hypocritical? possible, depending on their moral code, but that is not selfish.

Also, I know plenty of people that feel the "my body, my choice" argument is valid for both sides of the political aisle. That sounds like a social media sound bite to say that anti gay and anti abortion groups are the only ones saying that. In fact, I would argue that most of the people making that argument are not, in fact, anti-"insert argument here". I have found that most people I interact with are very central in their views and it is largely the fringe groups on either end of the political spectrum that have extreme or staunch views.