Ivermectin source?

[theotherguy]

I’m not sure why you don’t expect me to answer the question, as I think if done so far. Since you have shown me a modicum of respect, the least I can do is answer your question. No, I do not live in an echo chamber. While I generally coexist with like-minded people, I do have spirited debates from other sides. I have listened to media on both sides, although some on the side I disagree with are hard to take.

I am guessing I am in a slightly more unique position than many on this board, I am a gay woman. As a gay woman, I have seen many on the other side of the aisle who have denigrated my existence, who would prefer I live in a shadow, and who think my daughter is perpetually screwed because she has 2 mothers and not a “safe” household of 2 opposite-sex parents. Many of those who speak on those media outlets have specifically denounced my way of life and have likened my life to that of a pedophile. So no, I don’t spend a lot of my time listening to them because I am a living, breathing example of their utter incompetence and hatred for anything that they don’t understand or “agree” with.

We are all swayed by our own life experiences, I had to wait to get married, I had to pay extra in taxes because of this, I have to worry that the very decidedly right-leaning courts will listen to a court case that will take my marriage away. And yet I still try and hear the other side, even when they have consistently tried to tell me that my opinion doesn’t matter because I’m a lesser citizen anyways.

I do not immediately write off other views as unintelligent, most times I find them ill-informed or based on their own biases and hatred. But don’t pee on me and tell me it’s raining. Don’t tell me the vaccine is bad and then bath your children in lead and arsenic dirt. Don’t tell me you love this country and then treat the leader of the country as a God (isnt that was dictatorships look like?)

Sorry for the rambling but I just have a hard time understanding a lot of this stuff- this is my attempt at explaining why I look at things the way I do. I’d consider myself pretty rational, and maybe you think I’m just naive. Maybe I am?

I’ll address the rest of this post later, I’m at the gym right now. But when I said I didn’t expect an answer to the question, is it as because I was wanting to provoke thought, not because I didn’t think you could it would answer it. Most people are unable to be so objective with themselves as you somewhat appear to be, and I respect that.

I was raised to believe that being gay is wrong or immoral, but as I’ve gotten older I’ve realized I don’t actually care about sexual orientation because it doesn’t affect my life in the slightest. And as a red blooded American, I believe you have the right to do whatever you want so long as it isn’t impacting others.

however, what I think you are missing, is that, IMO, an overwhelming majority of people don’t care whether or not anyone is gay, or whatever their sexual preference is. How many people do you hear tell you that they actually couldn’t care less? None of those people, because they don’t care and it doesn’t affect them.

to be clear, when I say I don’t care and neither do others, it’s not a dismissive or insulting thing. It’s that it just doesn’t matter to me, nor should it matter to anyone besides you and your partner.

 

[deeeznuts]

@Suprachica79

What I don't understand is how you could argue in favor of "fact checkers".

You said you don't like how the media speaks about you being gay.

So how would you feel if those "fact checkers" would say those things about being gay and then have them "fact checked"?

Just to give an example, you mentioned pedo's.

What if a fact check looked like this:

Pedo's are just as bad as gays.
FACT CHECKED: CORRECT

That's why we are against those fact checking organizations, because they push their narrative under the disguise of "facts". When it's really just their opinion.

Another thing (for all of us) to keep in mind is that it's not left vs. right.

When a country is divided people are more easily ruled. They want us divided. They want chaos.

Having love and understanding for each other is what they hate.

 

[Big_paul]

Do you feel addicts who OD deserve Narcan?

Villain are we going to compare drug addiction to people who refuse a vaccine?

If the decision comes down to someone who has a heart attack or the victim of a drunk driver and an antivaxer for emergency services, I don't side with the person who refuses a free vaccine. Otherwise I don't care. For the most part, it is a choice now if a person wants to become seriously ill from covid.

 

[Villain]

Villain are we going to compare drug addiction to people who refuse a vaccine?

If the decision comes down to someone who has a heart attack or the victim of a drunk driver and an antivaxer for emergency services, I don't side with the person who refuses a free vaccine. Otherwise I don't care. For the most part, it is a choice now if a person wants to become seriously ill from covid.

I am 100% comparing the two, because a drug addict made the choice to do the drugs they know can kill them and yet they get the chance to be revived. Someone refuses the “free” vax (nothing is free bro) because of bullshit like the FDA asking a federal judge to hide safety data for 75 years and no one o owing the long term effects of this “vaccine” and you think they deserve no medical treatment if they get Covid?

It’s a choice whether someone OD’s, yet they deserve Narcan?

 

[Big_paul]

Then why is 100% vaxxed Gibraltar still having record numbers of cases as well as 98% vaxxed Israel? Unlike the other vaxxes you mentioned, this new one is not the same.

Brother the important thing to remember, especially now with newer variants, is that people who are vaccinated are not the ones who end up on ventilators.

I think being vaccinated is the right thing to do to protect those who are vulnerable, but I feel it is a choice each of us should be allowed to decide for ourselves.

With this country on the verge of civil unrest like we haven't seen in this country in over a century and a half, there are more important considerations. If an overweight 60yo with copd wants to die on a ventilator, I'm not going to twist his arm to stop him.

 

[Big_paul]

I am 100% comparing the two, because a drug addict made the choice to do the drugs they know can kill them and yet they get the chance to be revived.

I have known alot of addicts and alcoholics and they didn't choose to become addicted. You are right in that no one forced them to make the decisions they did, but I don't think it was their intention to give up their free will.

Not being vaccinated if you are a person who can die from this disease is a choice. For that reason, I think they should take responsibility for that choice.

If a desicion has to be made about who gets scarce medical resources that decision should be factored in.

Should David Crosby have been given a liver? A decision that certainly cost someone his life, I don't think so.

 

[Suprachica79]

I have known alot of addicts and alcoholics and they didn't choose to become addicted. You are right in that no one forced them to make the decisions they did, but I don't think it was their intention to give up their free will.

Not being vaccinated if you are a person who can die from this disease is a choice. For that reason, I think they should take responsibility for that choice.

If a desicion has to be made about who gets scarce medical resources that decision should be factored in.

Should David Crosby have been given a liver? A decision that certainly cost someone his life, I don't think so.

I also think comparing those two things is completely ignoring an entire portion of the population who became addicted by taking prescription drugs that the company lied about and the FDA completely fucked up on. It doesn’t help my point about trusting the FDA on the vaccine front in the slightest, but to equate drug addiction to refusing the Covid vaccine and then wanting treatment for Covid, I think it’s comparing apples to wrenches.

@deeeznuts

I actually didn’t reference fact checkers at all, so I’m not sure what you are talking about there. But I think what the problem is; we have gotten to a point where demonstrable facts are even being questioned. We’re at a place where someone can say something that is completely and verifiably false, but as long as they continue to say it over and over again, it becomes believed as a fact.

This is a super random example but for the sake of the exercise, just follow with me for a sec. remember that hot coffee litigation back in the early 90s? The story that a woman poured hot McDonalds coffee on herself and then sued McDonalds for millions in damages? Everyone remembers that as the case - that those are the facts of the case. In reality, the coffee was served at McDs standard of 190 degrees, a temperature that would cause 3rd degree burns after a mere few seconds; that the woman was not driving but rather a passenger sitting in a parking lot; that the cup slipped while she was added her cream and caused 3rd and 4th degree burns on her legs and genital area, that she had life threatening injuries and almost died from sepsis and that at the onset she only requested medical claims be covered and that a warning be issued or the temp be reduced. Also, McDs was aware of the issue previously and did nothing to stop it or mitigate, when simply lowering the temp would have solved the problem. Now those are the true facts of the case. But most people just think that she sued and got a bunch of money for a superficial burn on her leg. And that’s because they were told that over and over again.

Fact checkers sometimes imply their own biases; but in general that’s hard to do with cold hard facts. Saying pedos are the same as gay is an opinion. One has two consenting adults and the other does not. Data can be manipulated if you want to, but we’re now in a place where long standing truths like the sky is blue are being challenged and it is doing harm.

 

[Villain]

I have known alot of addicts and alcoholics and they didn't choose to become addicted. You are right in that no one forced them to make the decisions they did, but I don't think it was their intention to give up their free will.

Not being vaccinated if you are a person who can die from this disease is a choice. For that reason, I think they should take responsibility for that choice.

If a desicion has to be made about who gets scarce medical resources that decision should be factored in.

Should David Crosby have been given a liver? A decision that certainly cost someone his life, I don't think so.

I disagree about them not choosing to be an addict, because at the heart of it all, they made a choice to take that first sip or hit or injection, knowing full well it could lead to addiction. People take gambles all the time and some get lucky that they don’t get addicted. To me it’s like saying the Russian Roulette player didn’t choose to die.

Not being vaccinated is making a choice that had looked at the hidden things like death and complications and from the vax. I’d just as soon take my chances since they’re pretty low of me dying from Covid. And honestly, if I were to go to the hospital and they asked if I’m vaxxed and I tell them no and they give me IVM, I’d be more than happy. In the end, no one gets out of here alive brother.

 

[Suprachica79]

I disagree about them not choosing to be an addict, because at the heart of it all, they made a choice to take that first sip or hit or injection, knowing full well it could lead to addiction. People take gambles all the time and some get lucky that they don’t get addicted. To me it’s like saying the Russian Roulette player didn’t choose to die.

Not being vaccinated is making a choice that had looked at the hidden things like death and complications and from the vax. I’d just as soon take my chances since they’re pretty low of me dying from Covid. And honestly, if I were to go to the hospital and they asked if I’m vaxxed and I tell them no and they give me IVM, I’d be more than happy. In the end, no one gets out of here alive brother.

That does not apply to the patient who was prescribed oxycodone for a back injury and became physically addicted. Even though I disagree with your premise in general (addiction is a disease just like anxiety, depression, or arthritis) even if I did, it does not work with people who became addicted without any knowledge that what they were doing had addictive properties. There are thousands of people who have died because they started taking prescribed pain meds for a legitimate reason, only to become physically addicted - not just mentally addicted but actual brain rewiring and pain receptor changes. Seriously, watch the show Dopesick - it’s fucking wild and sickening.

 

[Villain]

That does not apply to the patient who was prescribed oxycodone for a back injury and became physically addicted. Even though I disagree with your premise in general (addiction is a disease just like anxiety, depression, or arthritis) even if I did, it does not work with people who became addicted without any knowledge that what they were doing had addictive properties. There are thousands of people who have died because they started taking prescribed pain meds for a legitimate reason, only to become physically addicted - not just mentally addicted but actual brain rewiring and pain receptor changes. Seriously, watch the show Dopesick - it’s fucking wild and sickening.

This I agree with. In its overall context, I was referring to mainly people taking street drugs when I asked Paul if those who OD deserved Narcan.

 

[Abt]

never ever getting that fucking bs vaccine. young athletes dropping like flys from heart related issues and the msm is trying to blame it on freedom, christmas trees and climate change??(
View: https://twitter.com/lukewearechange/status/1471258095263305731?s=28
)

So where the fuck do I get ivermectin and how much do I take?

 

[Villain]

never ever getting that fucking bs vaccine. young athletes dropping like flys from heart related issues and the msm is trying to blame it on freedom, christmas trees and climate change??(
View: https://twitter.com/lukewearechange/status/1471258095263305731?s=28
)

So where the fuck do I get ivermectin and how much do I take?

You can get it at @DashPCT and if you get Covid, the recommended dosage is 3 mg/day for 5 days. I’ve seen in India they were prescribing it at either 6 or 12 mg per day for 5 days.

 

[theotherguy]

This I agree with. In its overall context, I was referring to mainly people taking street drugs when I asked Paul if those who OD deserved Narcan.

You could make any number of arguments, whether it be obesity, smoking, or drunk driving accidents, accidents involving injuries from not wearing seat belts, etc. and whether or not those people deserve medical treatment. But rather than seeing the fault in that logic, most people will find a way to make excuses for those people instead of realizing those all pretty much fall into the same category as not getting the jab.

Except with the jab, there are proven, terrible side effects used as justification for not getting it.

 

[theotherguy]

I’m not sure why you don’t expect me to answer the question, as I think if done so far. Since you have shown me a modicum of respect, the least I can do is answer your question. No, I do not live in an echo chamber. While I generally coexist with like-minded people, I do have spirited debates from other sides. I have listened to media on both sides, although some on the side I disagree with are hard to take.

I am guessing I am in a slightly more unique position than many on this board, I am a gay woman. As a gay woman, I have seen many on the other side of the aisle who have denigrated my existence, who would prefer I live in a shadow, and who think my daughter is perpetually screwed because she has 2 mothers and not a “safe” household of 2 opposite-sex parents. Many of those who speak on those media outlets have specifically denounced my way of life and have likened my life to that of a pedophile. So no, I don’t spend a lot of my time listening to them because I am a living, breathing example of their utter incompetence and hatred for anything that they don’t understand or “agree” with.

We are all swayed by our own life experiences, I had to wait to get married, I had to pay extra in taxes because of this, I have to worry that the very decidedly right-leaning courts will listen to a court case that will take my marriage away. And yet I still try and hear the other side, even when they have consistently tried to tell me that my opinion doesn’t matter because I’m a lesser citizen anyways.

I do not immediately write off other views as unintelligent, most times I find them ill-informed or based on their own biases and hatred. But don’t pee on me and tell me it’s raining. Don’t tell me the vaccine is bad and then bath your children in lead and arsenic dirt. Don’t tell me you love this country and then treat the leader of the country as a God (isnt that was dictatorships look like?)

Sorry for the rambling but I just have a hard time understanding a lot of this stuff- this is my attempt at explaining why I look at things the way I do. I’d consider myself pretty rational, and maybe you think I’m just naive. Maybe I am?

Idk if you missed it or ignored it, but I think the most important point in my last post is FB admitting their fact checkers are actually just opinions. This came out yesterday from a lawsuit against them.

 

[Villain]

You could make any number of arguments, whether it be obesity, smoking, or drunk driving accidents, accidents involving injuries from not wearing seat belts, etc. and whether or not those people deserve medical treatment. But rather than seeing the fault in that logic, most people will find a way to make excuses for those people instead of realizing those all pretty much fall into the same category as not getting the jab.

Except with the jab, there are proven, terrible side effects used as justification for not getting it.

Yeah, I was rethinking this and of course my time to edit had passed, but basically all you have to do these days to make excuses for things is to label it a disorder or disease. Addiction is a disease? Hmm, once again - no one forced the meth/crack/heroin addict to take that first hit/shot. So I’m essence, they gave themselves the “disease.”

I do agree with their point about those who got prescribed pain pills or whatever and they got hooked.

 

[Cherokee]

Yeah, I was rethinking this and of course my time to edit had passed, but basically all you have to do these days to make excuses for things is to label it a disorder or disease. Addiction is a disease? Hmm, once again - no one forced the meth/crack/heroin addict to take that first hit/shot. So I’m essence, they gave themselves the “disease.”

I do agree with their point about those who got prescribed pain pills or whatever and they got hooked.

Not a dealer, don’t do or know anyone who does. But I know many people get addicted via prescriptions from Drs, etc.

Thats like saying it’s your fault for walking down the street and you get robbed. “We’ll you walked down the street”

 

[marco11]

Nobody is born an addict the genes passed on by your folks can be turned on or off (activated) depending on your environment. You can have twins that both carry the same genes from an alcoholic father and one of them can activate the gene by hanging out with losers who drink 24/7 while the other decides to stay home and study.

Of course many other factors play a role like personality, neighbourhood, school, friends, level of self awareness etc

 

[DeathSlime99]

new studies showing covid "hangs out" in fat cells. Stay shredded boys!

 

[Cherokee]

My parents never got the Flu shot. They never died from the Flu.

I got Covid... it did not kill me. As Covid mutates it will get weaker.

I can't think of any reason why someone who has had covid and survived rather easily, should get the vaccine. Unless their health has went down hill big time.

 

[Evom1]

never ever getting that fucking bs vaccine. young athletes dropping like flys from heart related issues and the msm is trying to blame it on freedom, christmas trees and climate change??(
View: https://twitter.com/lukewearechange/status/1471258095263305731?s=28
)

So where the fuck do I get ivermectin and how much do I take?

You can get it at @DashPCT and if you get Covid, the recommended dosage is 3 mg/day for 5 days. I’ve seen in India they were prescribing it at either 6 or 12 mg per day for 5 days.

Reliablerx was good
Dose is 0.2mg per kg of body weight for 5 days. Protocol is laid out by the FLCCC