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Sadly, people ignore what I wrote and just jump to conclusions. So let's break it down barney style:
The plan was Deca only while at maintenance to see what would happen
I stopped going GH saying wasn't worth it.
I was offered free coaching from one of the members posting in this thread, curious to see what he could do with me. He said give him three months with him and I'd change. We addressed the fact it would be better if I were learner, but he said I'm just about at the max amount of fatness he would deal with. I agreed. But in order to do three months, I'd have to order more deca and shit, which I did and its on the way.
He said he highly recommended GH and gave me a source that was HALF the price I was getting at, thus making it "worth it" because now it was fucking cheap and I could blast 10ius if I wanted to. So I decided to add it back in for those reasons.
His diet plan led to me eating food amounts I've never eaten before. I rationalized to myself, "if I'm going to force myself to truly do this, why am I going to limit my gear?" I asked what else could I add that is not Test-based to continue the integrity of the experiment. Had I added Dbol or anything else, then certainly it would defeat the purpose, plus increase sides. He said Drol or Primo would work. Didn't have Primo on hand, but it's on the way. Several people here said go for Drol, so gave it a shot.
The GH and high carbs were raising my BG levels high as fuck, which lead to adding slin. I could have done metformin or other things, but again, if I'm going all in, why not do the right shit? Slin from Walmart is 24 dollars instead of waiting for shit to come from online and hoping it's not fake and all that.
Initially, we were doing 4500+ calories; was quite easy to do at first, but then I started having these "throw up" attacks at night. Told coach, we lowered the food. 4200, fine for a few days, then same issue. Decided this was too much food.
Drol was added it and seemed okay a first, but then noticed appetite was fucked a few days in. Figured I'd get used to it. I tried 100mg a few days ago, said fuck this shit. Yesterday was the final blow for the drol.
Mind you, I've been annoyingly sick with either stuffy noses or whatever else this entire fucking time. Ever since I got covid last year, I've been getting sick, but not enough to keep me out of gym; it's always some stupid thing. Yesterday I had nausea, headaches, and barely slept due to this shit going on.
This entire time Deca has been one gram; the absence of testosterone was the entire POINT of this experiment. You people bitching about 19 days of drol ruining this entire thing are retarded; GH and Slin, both of which cannot replace testosterone and operate on different pathways, also didn't fuck up this experiment. Regardless, this experiment has a DECA base, but 80% of the time was deca only.
So, yes things changed, and I even addressed that during this log. I made sure NOT to add Test or any test derivatives. I have 50mg Dbols on hand and won't add them.
So many of the changes were situational and had noting to do with my will power or integrity: Why would I not take the offer for free coaching? Why would I not maximize the gear usage while stuffing myself like a pig? If I'm going to go all in, I'm going to go all in. And I'm eating all whole foods, making it 100x harder to eat; I'm not downing junk food to fill in calories; I've literally been eating ground turkey, ground beef, steak, rice, mashed potatoes, and pasta.
But right now, I feel like absolute shit. Perhaps I am just sick, but this does not explain why I can't even sleep on my back at night. I gained about 22 lbs since I started this log. Yes, I've gained some fat for sure and water no doubt; these rapid gains are 100% from the drol and massive calories all at once. I was 223 when I began, and now I'm 245. If being this big is going to prevent me from sleeping, then it's not WORTH being this big for ME. When I was in Vegas with Nick Trigili, he had to sleep with a CPAP; if that's what it takes to be that big, then no thanks.
But that is why I said I will drop the drol, take a break from all the food/gym, rest and see how I feel Monday. Perhaps I have some kind of weird flu-like thing that will pass, and I'll be back to eating and training no issue. But if being this big has fucking made my throat/tongue or whatever an issue for sleep, whereas as being leaner does not, then I'm going to go fucking leaner for MY HEALTH.
What bothers me the most is, instead of discussing the issues I posted, or saying what coach said here, you motherfuckers are complaining and mocking.
Why the fuck should I spend another second talking to any of you? And who the fuck are you people to think I owe you shit? You think this log is for me? I made it to share with the community, using myself as a guinea pig, to see what deca alone would do. And guess what, all the broscience bullshit fear-mongering about deca is just that, bullshit. That's what this "train wreck" has proven. I've had several members DM me now willing to run deca only, as before they were SCARED to,. as if you'll DIE if you don't run test from day one. Worst case scenario, if deca only doesn't work, then add shit to it, simple. The only reason I added shit was due to the free coaching and situations that arose, otherwise I would have stuck to my Doucette "Maingain" shit and probably gained nothing, actually.
And 10 weeks aren't enough? Are you guys fucking retarded lol? Of course you are. Why not argue 12 weeks or 16 week not enough? Why not 30 weeks? You think it takes MONTHS for drugs to kick in? The SECOND you inject the drugs they start working; yes it takes time to reach peak concentrations, but doesn't take MONTHS to do so.
And what I find funny is that 99% of you won't even upload a picture of yourselves or your progress, let alone make a log and be transparent, sharing your ideas, flaws and all, because you have too big of an ego. I'm quite certain most of you are probably armchair warriors regurgitating bullshit from online to be part of a community to make yourselves feel special. I'm not. I don't give a shit about the Internet, nor do I care what people say on it. What I care about are the FACTS. This log was to STRICTLY to share information with people willing to listen and explore with me, doing this experiment TOGETHER, not get attacked a bunch of soy boy anons with their pussy ass complaints.
All I know is that now I don't need test to add muscle, and blasting 1 gram of deca has WAY LESS sides than blasting 1 gram of test. If I blasted 1 gram of test, I'd be way more bloated, super-high blood pressure, I'd have to take AIs and other shit (which have their own sides), I've be way more mentally unstable, and my sex drive would be on overkill. Compared that with 1 gram of deca, my sex drive is gone, but I can have sex when I want to; I am cool, calm, and collected (no it's not depressed me at all), if I was on test I'd be super irritable. How do I know? Because I've done 1250 Sust before and it was stupid.
All I ever wanted to do is share my experience with serious people, no matter how stupid or crazy the EXPERIEMENT may seen to some, because that's the POINT of running experiments and sharing things with a community. I see no reason to further post on this log and waste my time getting into arguments and having to defend myself to people I'll never meet in my life, who are clearly immature as fuck, even trolling like children.
The plan was Deca only while at maintenance to see what would happen
I stopped going GH saying wasn't worth it.
I was offered free coaching from one of the members posting in this thread, curious to see what he could do with me. He said give him three months with him and I'd change. We addressed the fact it would be better if I were learner, but he said I'm just about at the max amount of fatness he would deal with. I agreed. But in order to do three months, I'd have to order more deca and shit, which I did and its on the way.
He said he highly recommended GH and gave me a source that was HALF the price I was getting at, thus making it "worth it" because now it was fucking cheap and I could blast 10ius if I wanted to. So I decided to add it back in for those reasons.
His diet plan led to me eating food amounts I've never eaten before. I rationalized to myself, "if I'm going to force myself to truly do this, why am I going to limit my gear?" I asked what else could I add that is not Test-based to continue the integrity of the experiment. Had I added Dbol or anything else, then certainly it would defeat the purpose, plus increase sides. He said Drol or Primo would work. Didn't have Primo on hand, but it's on the way. Several people here said go for Drol, so gave it a shot.
The GH and high carbs were raising my BG levels high as fuck, which lead to adding slin. I could have done metformin or other things, but again, if I'm going all in, why not do the right shit? Slin from Walmart is 24 dollars instead of waiting for shit to come from online and hoping it's not fake and all that.
Initially, we were doing 4500+ calories; was quite easy to do at first, but then I started having these "throw up" attacks at night. Told coach, we lowered the food. 4200, fine for a few days, then same issue. Decided this was too much food.
Drol was added it and seemed okay a first, but then noticed appetite was fucked a few days in. Figured I'd get used to it. I tried 100mg a few days ago, said fuck this shit. Yesterday was the final blow for the drol.
Mind you, I've been annoyingly sick with either stuffy noses or whatever else this entire fucking time. Ever since I got covid last year, I've been getting sick, but not enough to keep me out of gym; it's always some stupid thing. Yesterday I had nausea, headaches, and barely slept due to this shit going on.
This entire time Deca has been one gram; the absence of testosterone was the entire POINT of this experiment. You people bitching about 19 days of drol ruining this entire thing are retarded; GH and Slin, both of which cannot replace testosterone and operate on different pathways, also didn't fuck up this experiment. Regardless, this experiment has a DECA base, but 80% of the time was deca only.
So, yes things changed, and I even addressed that during this log. I made sure NOT to add Test or any test derivatives. I have 50mg Dbols on hand and won't add them.
So many of the changes were situational and had noting to do with my will power or integrity: Why would I not take the offer for free coaching? Why would I not maximize the gear usage while stuffing myself like a pig? If I'm going to go all in, I'm going to go all in. And I'm eating all whole foods, making it 100x harder to eat; I'm not downing junk food to fill in calories; I've literally been eating ground turkey, ground beef, steak, rice, mashed potatoes, and pasta.
But right now, I feel like absolute shit. Perhaps I am just sick, but this does not explain why I can't even sleep on my back at night. I gained about 22 lbs since I started this log. Yes, I've gained some fat for sure and water no doubt; these rapid gains are 100% from the drol and massive calories all at once. I was 223 when I began, and now I'm 245. If being this big is going to prevent me from sleeping, then it's not WORTH being this big for ME. When I was in Vegas with Nick Trigili, he had to sleep with a CPAP; if that's what it takes to be that big, then no thanks.
But that is why I said I will drop the drol, take a break from all the food/gym, rest and see how I feel Monday. Perhaps I have some kind of weird flu-like thing that will pass, and I'll be back to eating and training no issue. But if being this big has fucking made my throat/tongue or whatever an issue for sleep, whereas as being leaner does not, then I'm going to go fucking leaner for MY HEALTH.
What bothers me the most is, instead of discussing the issues I posted, or saying what coach said here, you motherfuckers are complaining and mocking.
Why the fuck should I spend another second talking to any of you? And who the fuck are you people to think I owe you shit? You think this log is for me? I made it to share with the community, using myself as a guinea pig, to see what deca alone would do. And guess what, all the broscience bullshit fear-mongering about deca is just that, bullshit. That's what this "train wreck" has proven. I've had several members DM me now willing to run deca only, as before they were SCARED to,. as if you'll DIE if you don't run test from day one. Worst case scenario, if deca only doesn't work, then add shit to it, simple. The only reason I added shit was due to the free coaching and situations that arose, otherwise I would have stuck to my Doucette "Maingain" shit and probably gained nothing, actually.
And 10 weeks aren't enough? Are you guys fucking retarded lol? Of course you are. Why not argue 12 weeks or 16 week not enough? Why not 30 weeks? You think it takes MONTHS for drugs to kick in? The SECOND you inject the drugs they start working; yes it takes time to reach peak concentrations, but doesn't take MONTHS to do so.
And what I find funny is that 99% of you won't even upload a picture of yourselves or your progress, let alone make a log and be transparent, sharing your ideas, flaws and all, because you have too big of an ego. I'm quite certain most of you are probably armchair warriors regurgitating bullshit from online to be part of a community to make yourselves feel special. I'm not. I don't give a shit about the Internet, nor do I care what people say on it. What I care about are the FACTS. This log was to STRICTLY to share information with people willing to listen and explore with me, doing this experiment TOGETHER, not get attacked a bunch of soy boy anons with their pussy ass complaints.
All I know is that now I don't need test to add muscle, and blasting 1 gram of deca has WAY LESS sides than blasting 1 gram of test. If I blasted 1 gram of test, I'd be way more bloated, super-high blood pressure, I'd have to take AIs and other shit (which have their own sides), I've be way more mentally unstable, and my sex drive would be on overkill. Compared that with 1 gram of deca, my sex drive is gone, but I can have sex when I want to; I am cool, calm, and collected (no it's not depressed me at all), if I was on test I'd be super irritable. How do I know? Because I've done 1250 Sust before and it was stupid.
All I ever wanted to do is share my experience with serious people, no matter how stupid or crazy the EXPERIEMENT may seen to some, because that's the POINT of running experiments and sharing things with a community. I see no reason to further post on this log and waste my time getting into arguments and having to defend myself to people I'll never meet in my life, who are clearly immature as fuck, even trolling like children.
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