Rido
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Amen brother.
I just tell people I am on TRT therefore I am not natty. I just dont tell them the dosage.
I am sure "TRT" 200mg a week dosage will keep me where I am at until my 4th/5th cycle. I am still on my first.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Whats with all these youtubers recommended TRT for a cycle?
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I just tell people I am on TRT therefore I am not natty. I just dont tell them the dosage.
I am sure "TRT" 200mg a week dosage will keep me where I am at until my 4th/5th cycle. I am still on my first.
Plate Smacker
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No
Oh hah, I was like DAMN the transparency
Plate Smacker
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That was just my ADHD going on a tangent about Layne and squatting, then reeling it back in on topic, about youtube gurus and TRT dose.
Greg "I am only on 120mg" Doucette
Juicedhead
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The thing is when you’ve been big or past your genetic limit when you come off for sometime and lose size getting on a trt dose will blow you back up. But it takes more then that to get there originally it’s like muscle memory. When I come off and lose size and get back on I immediately start gaining and get right back to where I was. But I used a lot more to get there originally if that makes sense.
Nobody wants to be honest about drug usage because they don’t want people to know the truth, as they want people to think it’s all due to hard work, better nutrition, and better training. These guys couldn’t give a shit less if some newbie hurts themselves, that’s a shit excuse for minimizing their dosages.
effswithtren
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I definitely see why they’d lie. If they’re the only ones that are honest about their dosages, they’ll look like they suck because everyone else is still lying. Additionally, the liars get to paint the honest ones as being reckless with their dosages. Additionally, most of these YouTube personalities are profiting financially from this, which only furthers the desire to be dishonest about dosages. All around it’s an environment that benefits liars and hurts the honest.
Juicedhead
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Yea I know it’s funny they say “oh I don’t want to hurt anyone” when in reality these dudes give no fuck about anyone else haha
Most YouTubers are money hungry scammers. I followed Greg and mpmd when they had very little subscribers like maybe less than 10k and even had consultations with them. Both typical drug addicts. Greg had his channel for a decade and no one cared until he started peddling sarms his knowledge is very superficial like basic google then he started those reaction with aladin parrot voice and blew up. He oversimplifies everything but he is okay if you never lifted or dieted in your life because he talks like he's an authority.
Mpmd took everything from his mentor Chris - good looking loser(who looks like garbage now after years of cycling lol) he lurked his forums and followed everything from clothing to selling dick pump. I mean the guy still wears elevator soles in his shoes it's kinda sad. His strongest point is his ability to pronounce big words and copy content from other steroid gurus and reading PubMed summaries. He is the most boring person to watch says nothing speaks like a boring robot I would rather watch paint dry. Also promotes finasteride one of the most damaging drugs for a male.
The newer guys:
Leo aka Laith the Arab rat. Mentally ill with obsessive disorder and extreme narcisstic delusions. His past is completely fabricated he tries to hide his identity but he keeps slipping with contradictory statement about his past. Like it's been said here the man was a drug addict, alcoholic, penis enhancer, player, made crazy cash from his job bought fancy cars ect all while stalking Jason Genova crew, armrestling ect. Everything anyone mentions the rat says he has done but bigger and better in Dubai. His main selling point and accomplishment in life is his wife. He is a trust fund kid and probably the reason the French girl agreed to this. He scams people of insane amount of money with fancy DNA testing but it is all bullshit. He is a trust fund nerd with an obsession with drugs and bodybuilding. He photopshopped his physique and doesn't seem to know much about working out beyond injecting insane amount of drugs. Peddles dangerous pseudo science based on random PubMed findings. If you follow him you will be addicted to SSRI and injecting pig brain. Be careful of this guy he is the most dangerous and can turn against you in a second.
Vigorous Steve seems a bit more level headed still on a pharmacy of drugs of course and a damaged liver but he seems slightly more honest I don't know much about him but his videos are decent but a lot of bs of course.
Mpmd took everything from his mentor Chris - good looking loser(who looks like garbage now after years of cycling lol) he lurked his forums and followed everything from clothing to selling dick pump. I mean the guy still wears elevator soles in his shoes it's kinda sad. His strongest point is his ability to pronounce big words and copy content from other steroid gurus and reading PubMed summaries. He is the most boring person to watch says nothing speaks like a boring robot I would rather watch paint dry. Also promotes finasteride one of the most damaging drugs for a male.
The newer guys:
Leo aka Laith the Arab rat. Mentally ill with obsessive disorder and extreme narcisstic delusions. His past is completely fabricated he tries to hide his identity but he keeps slipping with contradictory statement about his past. Like it's been said here the man was a drug addict, alcoholic, penis enhancer, player, made crazy cash from his job bought fancy cars ect all while stalking Jason Genova crew, armrestling ect. Everything anyone mentions the rat says he has done but bigger and better in Dubai. His main selling point and accomplishment in life is his wife. He is a trust fund kid and probably the reason the French girl agreed to this. He scams people of insane amount of money with fancy DNA testing but it is all bullshit. He is a trust fund nerd with an obsession with drugs and bodybuilding. He photopshopped his physique and doesn't seem to know much about working out beyond injecting insane amount of drugs. Peddles dangerous pseudo science based on random PubMed findings. If you follow him you will be addicted to SSRI and injecting pig brain. Be careful of this guy he is the most dangerous and can turn against you in a second.
Vigorous Steve seems a bit more level headed still on a pharmacy of drugs of course and a damaged liver but he seems slightly more honest I don't know much about him but his videos are decent but a lot of bs of course.
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Those 20 year old fuckbois on Reddit worship MPMD to the point that it's sickening. I watch some of his stuff, but at the end of the day he's a brohamster trying to make money off of buffoons. His TRT clinic does have good deals on blood work though
Derek at multiple points was using a gram per week of tren, but now everything is about trt and hrt. His trt sponsors aside, which dictate his content nowadays, he said he was shedding hair and the only way to keep it would be deca only cycles, which he opposed because he's a big fan of estrogen.
MuscleFreak
Member
Cause many of them have something with some trt clinic or they even own it...also when u promote super low dosages and look like a "good guy" u get a lot of newbie clients to make fast easy money
SenorSuperdrol
Member
I mean Derek makes good videos for what he is doing, he also is making videos for entertainment. He has said in many videos he hates doing the natty or nots specifically because he has no idea what people actually take. As far as Turk goes, that product is no different than Jay cutler pushing muscle tech. The fitness industry was worth 159 billion in 2019, so there is plenty of idiots buying plenty of garbage. Leo has a lot of info in short videos but IMO he is not as charismatic or entertaining and his sub count reflects that. Steve's videos are also decent but long. As far as this thread goes if any of you guys can do it better, thinking you can change the world with your high quality information by all means go for it. Its free to upload videos.
Jpmerr2021
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See I used to like Derek back in the day, enjoyed watching his videos and found his knowledge refreshing..
Than he started bringing Greg Doucette into his videos and Dan Bilzerian and that was me out.
He doesn't own that clinic. He lives in Canada. Best I can tell is some rich guy out in Oregon does, probably specializing in telemedicine. And another guy in Michigan where it is located actually runs the place.
But how much do you think they pay him? And what do you think his job responsibilities are? For a guy who nobody knows his last name, started out doing videos out of his parents basement in an old sauna, has 1 million Youtube subscribers, and likely never graduated college?
And is Derek's audience the right audience to be marketing TRT to?
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barbell001
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Just remember with these Clowns that their sole aim is to upload as many videos as possible and have as many running at a time. They will upload a video if they have a turd in the morning its that lucrative if they can just find something, anything at all to base a video on. There are so many of these guys now making £300,000 a year just off video views its insane. The Irony of Moreplatesmoredates is that when he ran a proper gear cycle he didn't like it at all, in fact he stated that it was counter productive to his lifestyle and working hours!!!! Errrrr isn't that what his channel is all about - Steroids and bodybuilding so maybe it would help if he was actually doing the things his videos are all about rather than just giving his opinions and judgements on others all the time.
Rido
Subscriber
You are right, but we all knew Jay Cutlers intention. Why do you think there are so many memes on dat dere cell tech? We just don't agree on using them as a reference point..
So turkesterone difference is that his money is in there and the fact he mentions it puts his integrity into question.
Go to Reddit testosterone section or the MPMD section and see how many of these dudes come on there and say "I'm 19 and I feel like I have low t, do I?"
They are all thinking they need it after watching his videos
They probably need it to after following his insane advice of taking finasteride. I stand by my previous statement, Derek success comes down to his ability to pronounce stupid wannabe scientist words like 'supraphysiological'. The guy has zero charisma but he makes himself into an authority and has been caught stealing content from others (like Victor black')
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