Derek got big thanks to low iq clowns like you. I can criticize the man without envying him but keep strawmaning. Some of us don't want to be sitting there recording low quality clickbait and good for him and his Lambo. I am strictly criticizing his content which nowadays is garbage.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Whats with all these youtubers recommended TRT for a cycle?
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SenorSuperdrol
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Yeah you can criticize it just know your points are invalid. It’s Entertainment, his business is to get clicks. His information isn’t, causing anyone harm. If you don’t want to record low quality clickbait, than record high quality videos. Then do it for the years it takes to even build a platform. Instead you just like all the other whining idiots. Complaining never taking action. No solution. Just a waste, spewing negativity for you to feel better because you got shitty calve genetics and small arms.
Typical fangirl behaviour and turning it into personal attacks you pathetic cunt. You think all of us are trying to be YouTubers? So I can't criticize a pop star because I should be working to be a singer or because I am jealous they are rich?
Your logic is so terribly flawed its sad really.
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It is not true that his info isn't causing harm either. He can put as many disclaimers as he wants but him and other like him who discuss PED and target specific young audience are indirectly promoting drug use. They are preying on the gullibility of the youth. I for one think YouTube should censor that material but that's my opinion
Criticism of him is valid you are just a stupid fan girl who will justify/rationalize anything he does. He can piss all over your wife's titties and you would praise him you absolute cuck
Eh. You know what I meant. It's not like I have a secretary proofreading everything
If your 20 yr old son self prescribed himself TRT from an underground lab because he wants to be like Derek you might disagree. I think the larger complaint is he built this platform for a specific demographic, then starting marketing something to a demographic that shouldn't be buying it.
SenorSuperdrol
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We don’t know his analytics to know what % of his audience is what age. So as far as marketing to specific demographic is a bit of a stretch. 20 year olds self prescribe themselves trt all the time. You said that someone would “want to be like Derek” but isn’t there larger YouTubers’s that talk about trt? How about every body builder ever? Why does the burden of idiots self prescribing themselves trt fall soley on him. If someone wants gear it’s available online, so is trt. I know for a fact that his clinic will turn people down and tell them to lose weight they don’t need trt. I can’t say that about all these online clinics? His supplement company could also sell sarms, and they don’t imagine how much more $ he’d make if he did, and how many kids would get f’ed accordingly.
Rido
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Very strong point
I'm 40 yrs old and a medical worker and never really even heard of TRT until watching Derek's later Youtube clips. I mean, I knew it was out there prescribed mainly for old hypogonadal men or small doses for women with a hysterectomy but was an extremely rare prescription, with pellets and creams and stuff. I can honestly say working with thousands of patients not 1 was on TRT. At least not in their medical record, not how we think of it as injection and dose. If I saw one that was I would've said "wow that's new."
Now I've heard of competitive athletes getting themselves prescribed TRT so they can take loads of testosterone more than their prescription grey zone legally but that's another deal.
I think we can agree by the amount of times he says "dude" and "bro" and reading the comments on both his Youtube channel and Reddit we know his audience
Someone like Palumbo's audience is much different and more appropriate.
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We welcome the principle of minimally effective dosages and, according to the experience of numerous people, we believe that this is about 200 mg of testosterone per week. At this dosage, almost any beginner can grow and maintain a good shape and more advanced athletes, because a lot depends on your diet and training.
We have had cases when beginners did not grow up with 250 mg (1 ml) of testosterone and then had to increase to 500 mg or additionally use some other drug that does not undergo aromatization in order to avoid the use of aromatase inhibitors. We must understand that the response to anabolic steroids also depends on genetic characteristics, such as the number of androgen receptors and their sensitivity. This is why many can progress at minimal dosages.
My personal experience suggests that the statements that over the years you need to constantly increase dosages to build more and more muscles are most likely a speculative myth.
As far as some studies tell us, anabolic steroids can change the number of androgen receptors in some muscles over time. Some studies say that testosterone increases their number (Doumit et al., 1996).
Animal studies have shown that a significant increase in the number of androgen receptors occurs as a result of training muscle strength and endurance, as well as electrical stimulation of muscles (Inoue et al., 1993; Deschenes et al., 1994). This can serve as an indirect argument in favor of the fact that anabolic steroids work more effectively on trained people over time.
I can give a personal example: in the first years of using AS, good growth was observed from 750-1000 mg (in the aggregate of all drugs) and after 10 years of training, the same response is felt from 500 mg and there are not a few such people. With experience, many athletes come to reduce dosages.
In summary, we would advise beginners to also try starting with 250 mg and if there is no response to these dosages, you can always have time to increase and compare the result.
We have had cases when beginners did not grow up with 250 mg (1 ml) of testosterone and then had to increase to 500 mg or additionally use some other drug that does not undergo aromatization in order to avoid the use of aromatase inhibitors. We must understand that the response to anabolic steroids also depends on genetic characteristics, such as the number of androgen receptors and their sensitivity. This is why many can progress at minimal dosages.
My personal experience suggests that the statements that over the years you need to constantly increase dosages to build more and more muscles are most likely a speculative myth.
As far as some studies tell us, anabolic steroids can change the number of androgen receptors in some muscles over time. Some studies say that testosterone increases their number (Doumit et al., 1996).
Animal studies have shown that a significant increase in the number of androgen receptors occurs as a result of training muscle strength and endurance, as well as electrical stimulation of muscles (Inoue et al., 1993; Deschenes et al., 1994). This can serve as an indirect argument in favor of the fact that anabolic steroids work more effectively on trained people over time.
I can give a personal example: in the first years of using AS, good growth was observed from 750-1000 mg (in the aggregate of all drugs) and after 10 years of training, the same response is felt from 500 mg and there are not a few such people. With experience, many athletes come to reduce dosages.
In summary, we would advise beginners to also try starting with 250 mg and if there is no response to these dosages, you can always have time to increase and compare the result.
Since it's a controlled substance and closely watched, 200 is probably the most you can legally prescribe without having to potentially explain yourself to someone, assuming you're in the US.
I guess the optimal range for most will lie somewhere between 300-600mg. 600mg / week was studied and given 6 months long without any adverse side effects in the sample size occurring (from that one study that is quoted a lot). Most recommend 500mg because for the majority this will be a dosage that they will have a good experience on with minimal side effects for their first time using. Going somewhere above around 300-600mg (depending on the person) will give very big diminishing returns in that the extra dosage injected will give very little gains in terms of muscle growth and strength but a lot of side effects. Being somewhere around 300-600mg is recommended if you want to do multiple cycles or blast / cruise without developing complications of coming off. If you're injecting that amount per week, it's both safer and more effective to just throw in some primo, var, winstrol, master than to further up the testosterone dosage to a gram+.
Rido
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I seen people on 250... Hyporesponders.
Meanwhile my buddy does like 140 and has test levels like I am on 300
If I start going over 250mg I start getting bloated, which admittedly is an estrogen problem not a testosterone problem. And they probably did too it just didn't affect their health significantly. And when you're in your 20s a little bloat is no big deal but in your forties people that know me notice and it's not a good look.
In that study they did get hematocrit/hemoglobin problems at the higher doses, as would be expected, but since it was a 20 week cycle there was no long term issues.
lankyOldIdiot
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In my late 30s and get the same bloat problem. Instead I just use HCG or 100mg test + deca/tren/whatever if I want to gain back some muscle.
Test always makes me look like shit.
Rido
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Crying over spoiled/misplaced milk
Alistair7
Member
Agree, If someone who has training natural for 5-10 years and tapped out their natural genetic potential, anything less than 500mg IMO is not worth it. The gains just won’t be worth shutting down their natural testosterone.
RunTrenFcukTens
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Who gives a fuck? Why are you worried about men on YouTube? Lmao
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