TP HGH

[HDH]

Thanks bro,emailed him

Cool.

You asked me in another post if I had used Tp and if they were the best out of the sellers here but I'm not sure where it's at.

Yes, I've been using them for years and they are awesome quality.

As far as being better than the sellers here, I haven't used anyone else's kits here so I can't say. I looked in their threads and they seem to have good businesses going. Quality and good pricing.

If I haven't been with Tp so long and needed a source, I wouldn't hesitate to use any of these guys.

 

[HDH]

@HDH You too, up to date lab results (not outdated ones from 2020) or declare yourself as a brand rep/shill so members aren't mislead. Just because Millard lets every dog shit on his lawn nowadays doesn't make Meso your personal toilet.

@Meditrope is representing the brand properly by regularly posting excellent test results, you guys aren't needed.

Woah there fella, lol

Not sure where you are coming from with this-

"Just because Millard lets every dog shit on his lawn nowadays doesn't make Meso your personal toilet."

What does that even mean? My personal toilet? I can only laugh to myself

I had to look you up and I see you are competition. Ok, I get it now, you have a business to look out for.

This place was my home for many years. There was a time when I was the only staff member here that showed up for more than a year. This place was the scam capital unguarded, I busted so many scammers off this place I don't even remember how many.

There was a time when there were only about 10 to 15 regular posters so Millard has done well regardless if you agree with his style or not.

As far as The Provider goes, yes I'm here to support him. I'm not trying to hide it in any way. I won't be drawn into big back and fourths, they accomplish nothing. I believe in saying what I have to say and being done with it.

I'm new to the Jano testing situation. I didn't know anything about it until I saw it here. Has everyone in the world switched over to this testing? I don't want to dis Jano in any way. I have supported him throughout the years. I even vouched in his thread when he got here.

For years and years they were tested the same way and accepted. I wonder about big pharma's roll in the new testing. Many of these generics are very good and hurt the nongeneric sales. TheGreytops were being sold in the medical community at one time. But, that's neither here nor there.

Analyzer tested the same way. I was one of the first handful of guys to send samples to him for testing. If Analyzer was still here, nobody would even be concerned with Jano's testing procedure.

The tests that Tp goes by are from the factory for now. When he was using Jano the factory testing and Jano's testing complimented each other. The factory knew he tested and you can bet Tp didn't send them an email stating he has stopped testing so I'm good with the present situation.

I'm going to give a little history on The Provider. Most people don't know it but he's been slinging near pharma quality kits for longer than most of the guys here have even known this community existed.

Some know about the rips he sold but most don't know about the Hyges. That's right, he was the original Hyges and Rips guy. The factory owners split and the guy that left owned the Hyges name so he took it with him. That was back in 08 - 09 so he was selling for some years before that.

The factory started producing the Rips at the end of the hyges.

The rips were done around 2013 - 14 and TheGreytops were born.

Most have been around long enough to know the mediatropes history. Top notch since they started making them.

This means he has been selling quality kits for 16 or 17 years. There were some years when people gave up on gh because there was entirely too much bunk shit out there. Tp has been like a lighthouse shining through a fog of bullshit kits through many bad years. When there was no where else to turn, you could always rely on his shit being fire.

If this place is really for respect and honor, there is no one in the gh biz that deserves more respect than this man here. Anyone who disagrees has other interests.

I prefer not to do the back and fourth, we will just be rewording and repeating. However, if you want to keep it going it's fine. All you are doing is selling kits for TP with the attention you are giving him.

Cool that another mediatrope guy is testing well since they both sell mediatropes. Thank you once again for your kind advertising.

 

[Liska]

Woah there fella, lol

Not sure where you are coming from with this

Welcome back mr. boomer. Rather than relive the past via history lessons, lets drag you into the present day - Janoshik upgraded his HGH testing method, which has since been (almost) universally accepted as the new standard, with the advent of 2021, you can read all about it here:

New rHGH testing method

So, I'm not too good on assays, so my apologies. Most won't be interested, but I feel like it ought to be shared with community. As some of you, who have read my thread know, I've implemented even more strict method for testing HGH this year: Janoshik Analytical laboratory testing services Not...

thinksteroids.com

He recently tested a EU pharma HGH standard again, which you can find here:

QA/QC HGH

EU Pharma measurement: Jano measurement:

thinksteroids.com

That purity is as good as it gets now, the closest any HGH has come were this russian Jintropin by @SkankHunt and a legendary batch by @GoodLyfe

Pfizer's Genotropin & Chimera Pharma (RIP) tested ~97%, the best generics and some other pharma products tested right below and mostly in the 96% range, which the recent #100 Mauvetops just about scratched, making it their best result since 2021 iirc and a great one overall.

You started your post by talking about competition and ended it by thanking me for the advertisement and talking about selling kits. I'm not sure what Meso was about back in your day but it sounds like a garbage fyrefest that this community has since worked hard to abandon in favour of scientific evidence/labtesting, holding sources accountable and supporting those that abide by the principle of harm prevention, which includes Meditrope.

This isn't a place anymore for 'my brand is better than yours, pm me for a discount code bro, link in bio' and not a place for you anymore either if you can't drop the shilling.

 

[HDH]

Welcome back mr. boomer. Rather than relive the past via history lessons, lets drag you into the present day -

You started your post by talking about competition and ended it by thanking me for the advertisement and talking about selling kits. I'm not sure what Meso was about back in your day but it sounds like a garbage fyrefest that this community has since worked hard to abandon in favour of scientific evidence/labtesting, holding sources accountable and supporting those that abide by the principle of harm prevention, which includes Meditrope.

This isn't a place anymore for 'my brand is better than yours, pm me for a discount code bro, link in bio' and not a place for you anymore either if you can't drop the shilling.

What's with the insults man? If you don't stop bullying me I'm going to tell the principal

It seems you really don't have anything else new to say.

Look, just as I predicted, same stuff regurgitated. There is a new testing protocol that jano is using and Tp isn't down with it at this time. Does that make his mediatropes less potent because the testing changed? No sir it doesn't. We covered all this already.

I understand you not wanting to relive the past through history lessons. If we learn the history, we understand that I'm not just some guy out here shilling. I've been around a long time and have always had an impeccable reputation. If I have an impeccable reputation then people might just listen to me. And if people listen to me they will learn that Tp has been top dog for many many years because he always delivers top notch shit.

You will have to explain to me how I'm a shill. I've made it pretty clear I'm here to support him. As a matter of fact, those were my exact words. Not hiding anything bro and I haven't posted anywhere else here. Great detective work by the way.

I have to question your use of shill. If I'm a shill, that makes Tp a swindler. So you are calling Tp a swindler, the guy with the best and longest reputation in the biz for quality product that is always delivered.

Meso back in my day?

It was real. It was guys getting out of work, hitting the board and hitting the gym. There was nothing fake about it. No one was running around with an agenda and dollar signs in their eyes bullying anyone that doesn't agree.

We respected each other and there was no drama. A great time with like minded ladies and gents.

I'm going to sign off now, I won't be joining you in another regurgitation session so you will be happy to get the last word in. Your welcome.

Oh ya, thanks again for helping to sell more kits. Yes, people see your point on the testing but off the island, in the real world where everyone else lives, it's understood there is no better reputation or long history of consistent quality.

Period.

 

[Liska]

There is a new testing protocol that jano is using and Tp isn't down with it at this time. Does that make his mediatropes less potent because the testing changed?

A reputation as impeccable as your ability to spell the product you're pushing correctly, I'm sure. Shilling: "an accomplice of a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others." Meso is a harm reduction board, not a source board. Sources and their products are vetted via lab reports, bloodwork and generally in as objective a way as possible by the community, and there is a strict separation between sources and members to try and minimize member manipulation by shills 'running around with an agenda and dollar signs in their eyes bullying anyone that doesn't agree.'

I've called you out to present evidence of your claim that the current batch of gold tops has been testing 1-2% higher than the blacktops, so you're not getting off the hook until you produce a test result, which would potentially achieve your goal of supporting TP's sales and genuinely be appreciated by the community here. Until you put your money where your mouth is, stay off our island.

 

[HDH]

A reputation as impeccable as your ability to spell the product you're pushing correctly, I'm sure. Shilling: "an accomplice of a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others." Meso is a harm reduction board, not a source board. Sources and their products are vetted via lab reports, bloodwork and generally in as objective a way as possible by the community, and there is a strict separation between sources and members to try and minimize member manipulation by shills 'running around with an agenda and dollar signs in their eyes bullying anyone that doesn't agree.'

I've called you out to present evidence of your claim that the current batch of gold tops has been testing 1-2% higher than the blacktops, so you're not getting off the hook until you produce a test result, which would potentially achieve your goal of supporting TP's sales and genuinely be appreciated by the community here. Until you put your money where your mouth is, stay off our island.

Yawn.

 

[lynks8]

Yawn.

The death rattle of the defeated boomer...

Fuck off, shill.

 

[valuum]

how many people do you guys think just repackage Tp under their own brand? How many hgh factories are there in China? I always wonder how many of these generics are all from the same source.

 

[Liska]

how many people do you guys think just repackage Tp under their own brand? How many hgh factories are there in China? I always wonder how many of these generics are all from the same source.

1. Except for the gold tops it looks like, Meditrope products still have customized caps (= OEM, so you're not skipping TP to order these from factory stock), you're not replacing those. Since every source is only as good as their last batch, even factory access would not guarantee you a copy of #100 Mauvetops for example.

2. Your own brand would have to have a better reputation than TP's for this to be reasonably profitable, which isn't happening. Buying Mauves or Blacks wholesale and reselling them at a markup via their existing reputation is the better move, since you'd be competing with TP & Meditrope no matter your brand.

Consider what you'd actually gain from straight up answers to your questions, here are some options:
a) 11, 3
b) 0, 7
c) 6, 9

 

[Evom1]

Which color is giving the least hand pain/cts?

Over the past decade I've tried the black tops, those gave a good amount of cts, muave tops were unbearable, Grey tops I used so many years ago in sure they're different now.

I've also used serostim and norditropin. 4iu is my go to with everything. The two pharmaceutical ones didn't give me any cts at 4iu, the blacks and mauves did, mauves so bad I had to drop the dose.

I ran serostim all last year, decided to try someone else's Grey tops to save money during the off season but very quickly got bad cts.

 

[freakyjacked29]

The Gold Tops run 1 to 2% higher in purity than the blacks. The recent blacks have been running high 97% to high 98%.

The current batch of golds are 99%. They are 150iu kits at a min, so a kit and a half.

Int prices are $115 to $119 a kit. (Depending on how many)

Local US runs $135 to $140.

Local EU runs $126 to $130.

Here is the current email-

theprovider2013@mailfence.com

Hey bud I thought the kits where 200iu 20-21iu per vile are they better than the old orange kits would you say

 

[HDH]

how many people do you guys think just repackage Tp under their own brand? How many hgh factories are there in China? I always wonder how many of these generics are all from the same source.

I would say no one repackages Tp's gh. It has the batch numbers printed on the vials and they sell themselves pretty effortlessly.

I was a reseller on and off for years. I ended up only selling Tp's stuff the last years. His reputation and the consistency of his products going on over almost a two decade gh career made them super easy to sell. I tried to get different kits to make more money but the consistency was never the same and they never sold as fast. I don't really care who knows anymore, I'm retired and everything I say is fiction, for the entertainment value

I've been in and out of the backside of these boards for years and your not going to find a better reputation for delivering a fire product. Hell, Jano tested one of TP's riptropin kits that was more than 12 years old and it was above 99% by his previous testing protocol.

I agree that a source is only as good as their last batch but when you have had 17+ years of all good batches, it really helps in the confidence dept. That's why I don't get why he's being run off from this place and is disrespected so much. He should be welcomed by reputation alone but the opposite is going on.

It's like watching the govt in action these days, lol

There's really no telling how many places in china produce hgh but one thing is for certain, don't drop the soap if they aren't already established, lol

 

[HDH]

Which color is giving the least hand pain/cts?

Over the past decade I've tried the black tops, those gave a good amount of cts, muave tops were unbearable, Grey tops I used so many years ago in sure they're different now.

I've also used serostim and norditropin. 4iu is my go to with everything. The two pharmaceutical ones didn't give me any cts at 4iu, the blacks and mauves did, mauves so bad I had to drop the dose.

I ran serostim all last year, decided to try someone else's Grey tops to save money during the off season but very quickly got bad cts.

It's not so much a matter of color as it is what batch you are running. The mauves and blacks will vary from batch to batch as the mauves were intended to be like the blacks just less iu so a little more affordable.

The goldtops are new, they are testing over 99% by the standard jano switched from. They have the batch numbers on the vials but he's waiting to make sure he's going to keep producing them before he bulk buys the caps. If I remember correctly, he started the mauves off with batch numbers on vials and generic tops as well. The mauves #100s tested over 99% as well by that standard. Now I think they come up 96% - 97% by new protocol. I don't pay attention that much. The old testing still tells me what it's been telling us for years. Fire

If you are looking to get mediatropes, I would suggest the golds or mauves #100. It could be some time before mauves come up that high for purity again.

 

[HDH]

Hey bud I thought the kits where 200iu 20-21iu per vile are they better than the old orange kits would you say

Here is/was the lineup-

Grey- 100iu
Yellow- 100
Mauve- 120
Black- 150
Gold- 150
Orange- 200

The yellow and orange have both been discontinued.

I believe the orange tops were testing high 97 to high 98 by the last testing standard.

Honestly man all the kits are good, the golds definitely test better but the orange had more iu per vial.

Here is the site to see jano testing when Tp was using them. It looks like it doesn't have as many up as it used to but all were great results-

THE PROVIDER – Provider Of Quality Gh (theproviderofhgh.com/wp)

 

[freakyjacked29]

Here is/was the lineup-

Grey- 100iu
Yellow- 100
Mauve- 120
Black- 150
Gold- 150
Orange- 200

The yellow and orange have both been discontinued.

I believe the orange tops were testing high 97 to high 98 by the last testing standard.

Honestly man all the kits are good, the golds definitely test better but the orange had more iu per vial.

Here is the site to see jano testing when Tp was using them. It looks like it doesn't have as many up as it used to but all were great results-

THE PROVIDER – Provider Of Quality Gh (theproviderofhgh.com/wp)

Great guy thank you the orange kits are amazing very strong sorry for the stupid question but why does the purity matter does it mean even if a kit has more iu less purity less quality even if more iu in a vile

And any reason why orange kits stopped being made

I know the oranges you had to swirl for a while to dissolve it all possibly the higher dimer

 

[HDH]

Great guy thank you the orange kits are amazing very strong sorry for the stupid question but why does the purity matter does it mean even if a kit has more iu less purity less quality even if more iu in a vile

And any reason why orange kits stopped being made

I know the oranges you had to swirl for a while to dissolve it all possibly the higher dimer

The purity matters because it tells you how good it is. Besides harm reduction, with the price of gh, you want to get the most benefit and a 1 to 3% purity drop can make big differences.

It's my understanding that the introduction of the new colors were to take pressure off the blacks line. The mauves seemed to do well but I'm guessing the yellow and orange weren't selling enough as the blacks and mauves are tough to beat.

Also at the time, the orange was running 97 to 98% with high dimmer and the yellows were running in the 97% with low dimmer. Both the blacks and mauves were running 98+% with low dimmers so the quality was better with blacks/mauves.

WHEN I TALK PURITY PERCENTAGES, I'M GOING BY THE PREVIOUS MESO STANDARD.

Why sometimes gh doesn't dissolve right away I couldn't tell you but I've seen plenty of high dimmer gh mix instantly.

Be careful how you treat sources. Earlier you were saying Tp was giving out fake track numbers now you want his products.

2 months is nothing for any source if it gets stuck in a mail warehouse. I've had packs show up after 3 months, no fault of the source. Your buddy could still receive the kits.

I'm guessing you are new to a lot of this because if you've been around int ordering you know things like this happen.

If you email Tp everyday and he's so busy it takes him 2 or 3 days to catch up on emails, the email gets moved to the bottom of the list every time if he hasn't seen the first one. I don't think people understand the volume.

Patients my new friend.

This is how I order from him, never had a problem-

First email-

Title- List
Message- Thnx

He then replies with list. Give him a few days.

Second email-

Title- List/Order/BTC (or wu)
Message- Place your order

Give 2 to 5 days for "ok"

If you don't have "ok" by 7 days, ask for tracking.

If you did get an "ok" wait 4 days and ask for tracking.

Remember, if you send emails without giving him time to open them, your email gets moved to the bottom automatically by the email provider.

Good luck bro.

 

[stevonov]

anyone test meditrope 104 yet?

 

[Floyd43]

How do I get a list?

 

[hghlover]

So, any experience with the goldtops? Less sides than mauves and black? They feel closer to pharma?

 

[rsmainz]

Anyone tried ordering to Australia and what was the result/your experience. PM me if you feel more comfortable discussing in private