Whats with all these youtubers recommended TRT for a cycle?

Go to Reddit testosterone section or the MPMD section and see how many of these dudes come on there and say "I'm 19 and I feel like I have low t, do I?"

They are all thinking they need it after watching his videos
Definitely. He has a legion of TRT simps that have been conned into thinking TRT will somehow have you looking like The Rock. In reality you’re just outsourcing your testosterone production to his dumb TRT clinic. He’s a huckster and there’s a sucker born every minute.
 
Definitely. He has a legion of TRT simps that have been conned into thinking TRT will somehow have you looking like The Rock. In reality you’re just outsourcing your testosterone production to his dumb TRT clinic. He’s a huckster and there’s a sucker born every minute.
I don't and won't use their clinic for anything other than blood work because the prices are good.

They TRT clinic is riding on hype and testicle riders only. The prices suck, they use shitty patient care coordinators etc
 
your mad that kids are being safe and starting with lower dosages?
you dont need a lot for a first cycle to get results

my first cycle was only 200mg and worked up to 300mg and i put on over 30lbs
 
your mad that kids are being safe and starting with lower dosages?
you dont need a lot for a first cycle to get results

my first cycle was only 200mg and worked up to 300mg and i put on over 30lbs
That's not what they are doing, they legit think they need lifetime testosterone therapy at a young age because they watched some videos of a scam artist. I'd almost rather them do the research and do a fucking blast like every other teenager did back in the day instead of posting stupid questions with no blood work.
 
That's not what they are doing, they legit think they need lifetime testosterone therapy at a young age because they watched some videos of a scam artist. I'd almost rather them do the research and do a fucking blast like every other teenager did back in the day instead of posting stupid questions with no blood work.
"I'm a loser, I feel like my testosterone is low".
 
so real talk. I got talked into seeing a TRT doctor by a buddy. I feel like my dick wasnt working, i wasnt putting on size, I was irritable. etc.
My test was low 400s in low 30s

I just went there because I had 600 dollars to spend on my FSA card.


but I am a person of testing and numbers. Seeing half the shit of people saying " I feel like I have low test." or "I feel like I have high e2" etc. Boggles my mind without testing.
 
your mad that kids are being safe and starting with lower dosages?
you dont need a lot for a first cycle to get results

my first cycle was only 200mg and worked up to 300mg and i put on over 30lbs
That is running a cycle in mind dude... how old are you?
 
your mad that kids are being safe and starting with lower dosages?
you dont need a lot for a first cycle to get results

my first cycle was only 200mg and worked up to 300mg and i put on over 30lbs
The difference between 2-300mg and 500mg as far as harm goes is very little for an 8-12 month cycle. And this has been studied and published, even at 600. At 500 you may have to worry about a little gyno if you are especially prone, and then there are ai's.

I find it funny that Leo and VigorousSteve hopped on the trt bandwagon when they stopped the gear and started collaborating with mpmd, then suddenly Leo hopped back on the gear at 400mg ( for "mood and vitality") because his wife was having a baby then he started lifting because "might as well," and Steve's liver problem cleared so he went on 300mg of test/primo which quickly turned to 600 (but was likely more.)

You watch Derek's clip with Bilzerian and Derek's like "you mean you're on trt, right?" and Bilzerian is like "no I take a whole lot more!"

It's crazy. And if you look at some old Derek's old videos and the gram per week of tren he was taking and stupid experiments with sarms... but now it's all TRT. And he actually has a paycheck to show for it. But meanwhile you have all these people self prescribing trt who shouldn't be taking it.
 
"leo" aka Laith is the best hypocrite of all. Claims to be all about longevity then pulls a random study about males test going down after they become fathers and he hops on his gear all while downplaying it. Of course he wanted some muscle gains cuz nobody believed he ever lifted but he rationalizes his stupidity. The guy is the biggest drug pusher. Steve and Derek are very safe compared to this insane delusional charlatan
 
The difference between 2-300mg and 500mg as far as harm goes is very little for an 8-12 month cycle. And this has been studied and published, even at 600. At 500 you may have to worry about a little gyno if you are especially prone, and then there are ai's.

I find it funny that Leo and VigorousSteve hopped on the trt bandwagon when they stopped the gear and started collaborating with mpmd, then suddenly Leo hopped back on the gear at 400mg ( for "mood and vitality") because his wife was having a baby then he started lifting because "might as well," and Steve's liver problem cleared so he went on 300mg of test/primo which quickly turned to 600 (but was likely more.)

You watch Derek's clip with Bilzerian and Derek's like "you mean you're on trt, right?" and Bilzerian is like "no I take a whole lot more!"

It's crazy. And if you look at some old Derek's old videos and the gram per week of tren he was taking and stupid experiments with sarms... but now it's all TRT. And he actually has a paycheck to show for it. But meanwhile you have all these people self prescribing trt who shouldn't be taking it.

I am Natty but if I hop on I really don't want to be on AI as it seems involved in all those muscle tears somehow. I am scared to death of AI
 
"leo" aka Laith is the best hypocrite of all. Claims to be all about longevity then pulls a random study about males test going down after they become fathers and he hops on his gear all while downplaying it. Of course he wanted some muscle gains cuz nobody believed he ever lifted but he rationalizes his stupidity. The guy is the biggest drug pusher. Steve and Derek are very safe compared to this insane delusional charlatan
i refuse to watch his videos. why the hell would test go down after becoming fathers?
maybe its age associated with entering fatherhood?

what a jack ass
 
i refuse to watch his videos. why the hell would test go down after becoming fathers?
maybe its age associated with entering fatherhood?

what a jack ass

Guess what? Laith had a regular podcast with Boston Lloyd and he gave him advice regularly always suggesting some new drug that Boston should be on.

Boston is dead now. Guys be very careful with YouTube gurus
 
Guess what? Laith had a regular podcast with Boston Lloyd and he gave him advice regularly always suggesting some new drug that Boston should be on.

Boston is dead now. Guys be very careful with YouTube gurus
I like Vigorous Steve, I just feel like he became a sell out when I started to get to start watching him.

what a shame.

I wound up paying for broderick and victor black's membership forum to learn a little more. Idk if I necessarily agree with brodericks opinion of multiple doses a week vs one dose a week for TRT.
 
I like Vigorous Steve, I just feel like he became a sell out when I started to get to start watching him.

what a shame.

I wound up paying for broderick and victor black's membership forum to learn a little more. Idk if I necessarily agree with brodericks opinion of multiple doses a week vs one dose a week for TRT.

He was the best of the bunch and felt honest to me. He puts long videos but he has good written summaries which I tend to skip to and read them as he is a very boring speaker.

He is trying to emulate Derek. Last video I watched he was quitting his drug regimen (and bodybuilding) to focus on pumping "2 videos a day" as if that's the key to success. I just don't think he has any mainstream appeal with his thick accent. I think his channel has reached audience limit. These YouTubers really think their channel just grows exponentially but reality is many hit a wall and many of the big ones have bought out subs.

It's too bad he really should stay in his lane
 
OMG I just watched Derek MPMDs video on Bostn Loyd's passing and he used it as an opportunity to promote TRT as a safer alternative to what Bostin did and reassure TRT patients that they are taking safe doses and won't end up like Bostin

Sellout clown
 
Sellout clown
Your just mad you can’t say big words. That you didn’t make a YouTube channel, and don’t have a Lambo. Derek is clearly all about harm reductions, like Meso is suppose to be. Post one clip where he advices anyone should blast there face off? Also who cares if he has a trt clinic, from what I hear they won’t just slap anyone and everyone on trt. There are plenty of clinics that do, and I don’t hear you up in arms about them.
 
The difference between 2-300mg and 500mg as far as harm goes is very little for an 8-12 month cycle. And this has been studied and published, even at 600. At 500 you may have to worry about a little gyno if you are especially prone, and then there are ai's.

I find it funny that Leo and VigorousSteve hopped on the trt bandwagon when they stopped the gear and started collaborating with mpmd, then suddenly Leo hopped back on the gear at 400mg ( for "mood and vitality") because his wife was having a baby then he started lifting because "might as well," and Steve's liver problem cleared so he went on 300mg of test/primo which quickly turned to 600 (but was likely more.)

You watch Derek's clip with Bilzerian and Derek's like "you mean you're on trt, right?" and Bilzerian is like "no I take a whole lot more!"

It's crazy. And if you look at some old Derek's old videos and the gram per week of tren he was taking and stupid experiments with sarms... but now it's all TRT. And he actually has a paycheck to show for it. But meanwhile you have all these people self prescribing trt who shouldn't be taking it.
8-12 month cycle huh …. Wtf
 
OMG I just watched Derek MPMDs video on Bostn Loyd's passing and he used it as an opportunity to promote TRT as a safer alternative to what Bostin did and reassure TRT patients that they are taking safe doses and won't end up like Bostin
Your point is ???
 

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