Test P/Tren A Cycle - Couch Potato to Jacked Begins now

There you go. But all in all, using aas to get from 30% to 16% is a waste of money and health. That should be done natty.
I applaud you for your effort but OP is a little dipshit who doesn't care what you or anyone else says that is genuinely trying to help them.

He just wants validation for this thoughts

Let him tren it out.
 
I applaud you for your effort but OP is a little dipshit who doesn't care what you or anyone else says that is genuinely trying to help them.

He just wants validation for this thoughts

Let him tren it out.

In know, I know, I've talked to him in his other thread ... But, we were all young and the smartest people on the planet once. This new generation though, is a big victim of social media. Idk how old you are, but when I was 18 facebook just started being available to the general public and so did youtube. I have no idea, honestly, how I would have turned out if drugs like aas were as popularized back then as they are now. I mean, the trenbolony sandwich bruh, got to get on the sauzule g, ... There was non of this back in the day. We had alcohol and weed, and even weed was kinda stigmatized ...Now there are 14 yo's hooked to meth, ice, horse ... and off course, everybody is doing sarms and shit at 16. There is also a much bigger generational gap between teens and adults, due to this and other technology advances, as it was when we were 18. This is making teens much more arrogant, calling everybody boomer and chit, ...

In any case, he is just a victim. He also got delt some bad genetics, not just in the brains department but also physiological which made him a weakling in spirit and in form. And you know how weaklings get when they get some power in their hands (in this case aas dopamine, aggression)? They turn evil, as the only thing that kept them from being dipshit bullies till now was that they were to weak to be ones them self's. This would ruin a stupid young kid, who lives at home with his parents. Can you imagine his mother telling him to clean up his room and he being all saused up on tren? Eventually there would some sort of domestic violence, family would kick him out, he would land in jail or something.

Everybody is a victim at some point or from some perspective. And if you let them play the part, idk, are we any better? Are we adults if you let some random banter from a child get to you? Idk, it's gonna play out as it's gonna play out, but fact of the matter is that nobody talked to him without being rude or condescending, nobody leveled with him, and that's when people start to listen, otherwise they just stay in their smart ass defensive position.
 
nobody talked to him without being rude or condescending, nobody leveled with him, and that's when people start to listen, otherwise they just stay in their smart ass defensive position.
This is just false.

I and multiple other people did. Genuinely go look at my initial response to this fuck nut along with a few other guys.

This kids a waste of breathe. I was an Asshole when I was 18 but at least I was a stupid lazy asshole like this kid.

Let the weak genes leave the genetic pool and save his unborn children the curse the would be born into by having this guys chromosomes present inside them.

He can SUCK MAH BALLZ
 
In know, I know, I've talked to him in his other thread ... But, we were all young and the smartest people on the planet once. This new generation though, is a big victim of social media. Idk how old you are, but when I was 18 facebook just started being available to the general public and so did youtube. I have no idea, honestly, how I would have turned out if drugs like aas were as popularized back then as they are now. I mean, the trenbolony sandwich bruh, got to get on the sauzule g, ... There was non of this back in the day. We had alcohol and weed, and even weed was kinda stigmatized ...Now there are 14 yo's hooked to meth, ice, horse ... and off course, everybody is doing sarms and shit at 16. There is also a much bigger generational gap between teens and adults, due to this and other technology advances, as it was when we were 18. This is making teens much more arrogant, calling everybody boomer and chit, ...

In any case, he is just a victim. He also got delt some bad genetics, not just in the brains department but also physiological which made him a weakling in spirit and in form. And you know how weaklings get when they get some power in their hands (in this case aas dopamine, aggression)? They turn evil, as the only thing that kept them from being dipshit bullies till now was that they were to weak to be ones them self's. This would ruin a stupid young kid, who lives at home with his parents. Can you imagine his mother telling him to clean up his room and he being all saused up on tren? Eventually there would some sort of domestic violence, family would kick him out, he would land in jail or something.

Everybody is a victim at some point or from some perspective. And if you let them play the part, idk, are we any better? Are we adults if you let some random banter from a child get to you? Idk, it's gonna play out as it's gonna play out, but fact of the matter is that nobody talked to him without being rude or condescending, nobody leveled with him, and that's when people start to listen, otherwise they just stay in their smart ass defensive position.
I am about the same age as you. I think it is more than social media, I blame it on the parents. poor moral/ethical values and critical thinking. This little shit wont listen to us or on REDDIT.


People tried talking to him, but he refused to listen. He is some socially awkward kid that wants the easy way out of life and this falls to his upbringing. Even I knew where to get a hold of prohormones at 18 and wanted to stay away from it.

We cant raise him, the damage is done.
I have banged plenty of girls and I will tell you I have banged more when I was chunkier than I am now.

he is a lost cause and might as well use him as an example for other kids to read this and know why we are advising him not to
 
This is just false.

Ok, I knew that I was probably wrong to a degree when I wrote that ...

I still think most just said, don't do it, your gonna fuck yourself up, ... etc. Did anybody really explain to him like I just did now? I also don't think he understand to what level aas and especially 19nor's change your personality. He probably thinks that he will be able to discern the changes to his personality and will be able to suppress them and still act normal. He probably doesn't understand that after a month on, he will forget what normal is, and after two months, the last month's personality (which already wasn't normal) will be his new baseline and the new personality will be his divergent personality and after 3 months the 2 months personality will be his baseline and he will completely off forgotten how it was before he started the cycle at which point he will be utterly lost, and honestly, that will happen before the 3 month mark. He just doesn't know this chit and a lot of other stuff off course that will get in the way. This need to be explained to him, diligently, so he really understands that it's dangerous and not that it's just some "old farts" telling him he can't do it bc he is young and stupid and know chit. Idk, am I being wrong here?
 
Ok, I knew that I was probably wrong to a degree when I wrote that ...

I still think most just said, don't do it, your gonna fuck yourself up, ... etc. Did anybody really explain to him like I just did now? I also don't think he understand to what level aas and especially 19nor's change your personality. He probably thinks that he will be able to discern the changes to his personality and will be able to suppress them and still act normal. He probably doesn't understand that after a month on, he will forget what normal is, and after two months, the last month's personality (which already wasn't normal) will be his new baseline and the new personality will be his divergent personality and after 3 months the 2 months personality will be his baseline and he will completely off forgotten how it was before he started the cycle at which point he will be utterly lost, and honestly, that will happen before the 3 month mark. He just doesn't know this chit and a lot of other stuff off course that will get in the way. This need to be explained to him, diligently, so he really understands that it's dangerous and not that it's just some "old farts" telling him he can't do it bc he is young and stupid and know chit. Idk, am I being wrong here?
Yes multiple people explained in detail.

Multiple people multiple variations of the same message with different perspectives.

It’s like a little kid who is told multiple times to stop putting his hand near the stove.

Do they listen? No. They only listen after the burn themselves. Some get burnt worse than others.
 
Jin, I'm not sure how many more ways people could have explained to him what's up. People start being dicks when you realize the guy doesn't actually want to listen. Between here and Reddit he had 50 different guys responding.

I was thinking when I was at Costco about your response and I actually appreciated it. I hope it helped.

Fact is though, he's lazy and jaded. With that he's wanting to skip steps. He's going to take the easiest parts that you have told him and do that while dropping everything else. Maybe his body will rebound from it, but I doubt it with what he's currently starting with. Both physically and mentally this is going to hit him hard.
 
Fact is though, he's lazy and jaded. With that he's wanting to skip steps. He's going to take the easiest parts that you have told him and do that while dropping everything else. Maybe his body will rebound from it, but I doubt it with what he's currently starting with. Both physically and mentally this is going to hit him hard.
got links to reddit post?
 
I couldn't find it.

It's on the subreddit /steroids on the daily chat thing. Either 1-3 days before here. I got sick of scanning for it.
i found him. rofl. its actually really sad. OP is concerned that he is ugly and blames his looks on his lack of game. he truly does think steroids will get him make him lose his virginity. But seems like he is pretty adamant about steroids.

oh well.

example of darwinism here.
 
i found him. rofl. its actually really sad. OP is concerned that he is ugly and blames his looks on his lack of game. he truly does think steroids will get him make him lose his virginity. But seems like he is pretty adamant about steroids.

oh well.

example of darwinism here.
You're just a boomer who went to school in the 90s. You don't know what it's like growing up today. Everyone is on roids (sarms at the least), everyone is getting surgery, etc. Everyone is doing everything in their power to appeal to the opposite sex because looks matter. Maybe in the 90s looks didn't matter so much, but in today's world, I am telling you they do
 
i found him. rofl. its actually really sad. OP is concerned that he is ugly and blames his looks on his lack of game. he truly does think steroids will get him make him lose his virginity. But seems like he is pretty adamant about steroids.

oh well.

example of darwinism here.
If you don't believe me, then create two Tinder accounts. One with an average dude and one with a very attractive dude. Target the 18-24 year olds.

I guarantee the average dude will probably get like 1-5 matches per week. Several of them being bots or trannies. Whereas, the attractive dude will get 50 likes in a day and has his pick of the tightest, prime, fertile pussy. The attractive dude doesn't even need to have a bio. He can arrange a hook up in less than 10 messages it's really that easy.
 
You're just a boomer who went to school in the 90s. You don't know what it's like growing up today. Everyone is on roids (sarms at the least), everyone is getting surgery, etc. Everyone is doing everything in their power to appeal to the opposite sex because looks matter. Maybe in the 90s looks didn't matter so much, but in today's world, I am telling you they do
dude. do you know what a boomer is?

I am in my 30s. you know how many girls a few years older than you I have fucked? this was before AAS. I finished college in the past 10 years.

I have been fucking crazy ass girls that like to get fucked in the ass and swallow my load. Girls that were begging for me to blow my load inside of them.


Your attitude overall sucks and this falls to your parents and teaching you hard work. People have been saying this for years that "oh you need good looks"

no man, you just lack confidence. I have fucked some subpar chicks that have solid good energy and great vibes. There is something about some of these people who know how to carry themselves. Confidence goes a long way and not giving a fuck These are qualities that you need to focus on.

That aside. you dont want to put in the effort in the gym, because your attitude is. "Whats the point?"

You have excuses for everything and you have less muscle than the guy in the first picture and you dont even know how to train. We have tried to help you and you know what hasnt changed? the art of overall training. Which you want to bypass
 
If you don't believe me, then create two Tinder accounts. One with an average dude and one with a very attractive dude. Target the 18-24 year olds.

I guarantee the average dude will probably get like 1-5 matches per week. Several of them being bots or trannies. Whereas, the attractive dude will get 50 likes in a day and has his pick of the tightest, prime, fertile pussy. The attractive dude doesn't even need to have a bio. He can arrange a hook up in less than 10 messages it's really that easy.
I dont need tinder to get laid. nor do I need to prove myself. I have had girls ask me for my number at the fucking bar.

ex. Some cute young girl was at the bar and had a birthday sash on. I asked her if it was her birthday and said happy birthday. let me buy you a drink, I barely said a word to her. I was about to walk away and she asked me for my number. I had to tell her I was married but I said she was extremely attractive.. it was just a cute girl at the bar who reminded me of my wife when I first met her.

I proceeded to bring the drinks to my wife and a girl we were fucking.
 
dude. do you know what a boomer is?

I am in my 30s. you know how many girls a few years older than you I have fucked? this was before AAS. I finished college in the past 10 years.

I have been fucking crazy ass girls that like to get fucked in the ass and swallow my load. Girls that were begging for me to blow my load inside of them.


Your attitude overall sucks and this falls to your parents and teaching you hard work. People have been saying this for years that "oh you need good looks"

no man, you just lack confidence. I have fucked some subpar chicks that have solid good energy and great vibes. There is something about some of these people who know how to carry themselves. Confidence goes a long way and not giving a fuck These are qualities that you need to focus on.

That aside. you dont want to put in the effort in the gym, because your attitude is. "Whats the point?"

You have excuses for everything and you have less muscle than the guy in the first picture and you dont even know how to train. We have tried to help you and you know what hasnt changed? the art of overall training. Which you want to bypass
It's not your confidence, it's probably your face. Show your face
 
I dont need tinder to get laid. nor do I need to prove myself. I have had girls ask me for my number at the fucking bar.

ex. Some cute young girl was at the bar and had a birthday sash on. I asked her if it was her birthday and said happy birthday. let me buy you a drink, I barely said a word to her. I was about to walk away and she asked me for my number. I had to tell her I was married but I said she was extremely attractive.. it was just a cute girl at the bar who reminded me of my wife when I first met her.

I proceeded to bring the drinks to my wife and a girl we were fucking.
If girls approach you and ask for your number, then clearly you are very attractive and it's not your fucking confidence lmao
 
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