Primobolan

yea fuck that. That was the main reason why I didnt like primo
It’s just because his E2 is way low

OP-lower the Primo to “dial in your E2”
I saw you said you want to limit the total amount of “roids”
It is not recommended to lower Primo and raise test anyway. Usually one or the other so you will get a feel for the proper Primo dose.
An E2 that low will limit your gains and cause fatigue and reduced libido
Problem is, it will take a few weeks or more before your E2 raises because of the ester.
Look at it as a learning process and lower the Primo and then note the amount of Primo that gives you optimal E2 with that amount of test
Keep in mind in the future that when you raise the test or run a low dose of test such as on a cruise and if you also use Primo the ratio will not coincide.
For example, if 500 test and 350 Primo gives you optimal E2. Then when you run 200 Test 150 Primo will crush your E2. Your Primo dose will need to be exponentially less with lower test and the opposite with higher test.
Like if you run 800 test you may need to run 800 primo for the correct E2
Hope that makes sense
I have gone through this process myself and I inject Primo EoD all the time blast or cruise
This is a good example of why the Primo “shines at 800” is broscience bullshit.
It might “shine at 800” for a few people out of thousands, with 1000mg test but other than that most people are going to have low E2 and reduced gain and feel like shit.
Prime example of why more is not better
 
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I was still at a 2 test for 1 primo ratio.. at that point, I didnt know what else to do. lol
Yeah Primo can be very effective at lowering E2 and I have found that once it’s that low it can pretty much stay like that through the cycle even lowering the dose
I know you like Mast better anyway and that’s good that you found what works best for you. OP clearly has too high of a Primo dose
If I was him I would drop it to 200-250 if he keeps test the same. Less than 2/1 ratio

Edit:I keep saying OP but I’m wrong lol
I guess in referring to Roidsters comments 4th page
 
Yeah Primo can be very effective at lowering E2 and I have found that once it’s that low it can pretty much stay like that through the cycle even lowering the dose
I know you like Mast better anyway and that’s good that you found what works best for you. OP clearly has too high of a Primo dose
If I was him I would drop it to 200-250 if he keeps test the same. Less than 2/1 ratio

Edit:I keep saying OP but I’m wrong lol
I guess in referring to Roidsters comments 4th page
I am running 1,5 test with 700primo 700deca no ai or serm just a .25 caber every 5 day
 
I am running 1,5 test with 700primo 700deca no ai or serm just a .25 caber every 5 day
That sounds like some good numbers

I’m running Test, Primo, Deca and Tren right now, no AI, P5P and it’s my favorite blast to date. I really like running Primo instead of an AI
My last blast was Test, Primo NPP and loved it.
I run 50-80mg Primo on cruise with 250-300 test
 
That sounds like some good numbers

I’m running Test, Primo, Deca and Tren right now, no AI, P5P and it’s my favorite blast to date. I really like running Primo instead of an AI
My last blast was Test, Primo NPP and loved it.
I run 50-80mg Primo on cruise with 250-300 test
Right?? I wanna see on bloodwork how low it gets. But fuck me I’ll next take an ai outside of prep again, your getting estrogen management and it’s an amazing steroid really

I’ll never not have primo in my mix it and test are my main anabolics
 
It’s just because his E2 is way low

OP-lower the Primo to “dial in your E2”
I saw you said you want to limit the total amount of “roids”
It is not recommended to lower Primo and raise test anyway. Usually one or the other so you will get a feel for the proper Primo dose.
An E2 that low will limit your gains and cause fatigue and reduced libido
Problem is, it will take a few weeks or more before your E2 raises because of the ester.
Look at it as a learning process and lower the Primo and then note the amount of Primo that gives you optimal E2 with that amount of test
Keep in mind in the future that when you raise the test or run a low dose of test such as on a cruise and if you also use Primo the ratio will not coincide.
For example, if 500 test and 350 Primo gives you optimal E2. Then when you run 200 Test 150 Primo will crush your E2. Your Primo dose will need to be exponentially less with lower test and the opposite with higher test.
Like if you run 800 test you may need to run 800 primo for the correct E2
Hope that makes sense
I have gone through this process myself and I inject Primo EoD all the time blast or cruise
This is a good example of why the Primo “shines at 800” is broscience bullshit.
It might “shine at 800” for a few people out of thousands, with 1000mg test but other than that most people are going to have low E2 and reduced gain and feel like shit.
Prime example of why more is not better
I can confirm that. Got fatigue like 6 weeks before. So i guess at that time my E2 began too crush.

The reason why using a 1:2 ratio of primo is, that i tend to get high E2 during almost every cycle.

I thought i was 4 years before in my prime with some high dose tren but baby.. primo with hgh gave me the best form that i achieved so far. Ripped as fuck but with a nice amount of muscle and it feels good. Almost no sides.
 
I can confirm that. Got fatigue like 6 weeks before. So i guess at that time my E2 began too crush.

The reason why using a 1:2 ratio of primo is, that i tend to get high E2 during almost every cycle.

I thought i was 4 years before in my prime with some high dose tren but baby.. primo with hgh gave me the best form that i achieved so far. Ripped as fuck but with a nice amount of muscle and it feels good. Almost no sides.
Primo.hgh and Test I assume? What was your breakdown ratio or mgs?
 
Primo.hgh and Test I assume? What was your breakdown ratio or mgs?
300mg test e e4d
600mg primo e e4d
6ie Hgh ed

Sometimes ukw slin pre workout 8ie-12ie, depends on my mood.

Would love to show some progress videos here but since this is a roid forum, it would be not a good idea
 
It’s just because his E2 is way low

OP-lower the Primo to “dial in your E2”
I saw you said you want to limit the total amount of “roids”
It is not recommended to lower Primo and raise test anyway. Usually one or the other so you will get a feel for the proper Primo dose.
An E2 that low will limit your gains and cause fatigue and reduced libido
Problem is, it will take a few weeks or more before your E2 raises because of the ester.
Look at it as a learning process and lower the Primo and then note the amount of Primo that gives you optimal E2 with that amount of test
Keep in mind in the future that when you raise the test or run a low dose of test such as on a cruise and if you also use Primo the ratio will not coincide.
For example, if 500 test and 350 Primo gives you optimal E2. Then when you run 200 Test 150 Primo will crush your E2. Your Primo dose will need to be exponentially less with lower test and the opposite with higher test.
Like if you run 800 test you may need to run 800 primo for the correct E2
Hope that makes sense
I have gone through this process myself and I inject Primo EoD all the time blast or cruise
This is a good example of why the Primo “shines at 800” is broscience bullshit.
It might “shine at 800” for a few people out of thousands, with 1000mg test but other than that most people are going to have low E2 and reduced gain and feel like shit.
Prime example of why more is not better
I completely agree with this, been using primo/test exclusively for many many years. Another note I might add, I seem to be able to run more primo without effecting my e2 when I run it with either test prop/phenylprop as opposed to test e/c. For example, I can run 2-300mg of prop weekly with 6-700mg primo for 24 weeks and feel great, no noticeable difference in sex drive, mood, etc but when I switch to a longer ester test and keep the same dose of primo, my e2 tanks, and I have to lower my primo since I don’t like running more than 300mg of test a week. Perhaps it’s the more frequent injections, or how much body reacts to the esters
 
no the only thing was my fertility .. I then went to a hospital with hcg and hmg and after a long process while I used toxh low dose primo next to it I had a healthy daughter a few months ago ... continue no sides on primo with a low dose of sustanon next to it..
Congrats on the baby girl. I’m in the same situation, looking to start having children after long use of primo/test. What was your protocol with hcg/hmg if you don’t mind me asking. And the dose of test/primo you stayed with while conceiving !
 
Congrats on the baby girl. I’m in the same situation, looking to start having children after long use of primo/test. What was your protocol with hcg/hmg if you don’t mind me asking. And the dose of test/primo you stayed with while conceiving !
1500 iu hcg eod
150 iu hmg eod
250 mg test e 10 d
Ma wo fri 1 ml primo

The primo wasnt the deal with my doctor..
You better can run it without primo bro ..
Good Luck!
 
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