Rido
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I guess at this point he blocked me after the Zyzz thread. Oh well lol.
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Salt is doing the opposite for me (please need a expert opinion)
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David44
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Im not a girl I am not blocking anyone
TheLittleShop
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I knew you were going to go with this.
Both are still 98% sodium chloride...
David just get some potassium citrate to down daily... Take 25% of daily value...
Sea salt vs. table salt: Differences and health benefits
Sea salt is a natural alternative to table salt. Some people mistakenly think it is better for their health. Learn more about the differences between table salt and sea salt here.www.medicalnewstoday.com
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As well, Trace Mineral electrolyte drops into your water throughout the day and especially around training! Hope this helps!
TheLittleShop
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Rido
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Idk man. I think just taking some potassium citrate in bulk form is more beneficial and what should the primary goal to maintain balance
theotherguy
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Poor sodium
otassium ratio is a VERY common cause of diet based hypertension. Generally people that eat too much sodium and not enough potassium are the ones the doctors are telling to cut salt from their diets because of their high blood pressure.
Gotta agree with @Cridi887 here, supplement with potassium OR eat a lot more high potassium foods (red meat, fruits, potatoes, spinach, etc.)
otassium ratio is a VERY common cause of diet based hypertension. Generally people that eat too much sodium and not enough potassium are the ones the doctors are telling to cut salt from their diets because of their high blood pressure.Gotta agree with @Cridi887 here, supplement with potassium OR eat a lot more high potassium foods (red meat, fruits, potatoes, spinach, etc.)
TheLittleShop
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The absolute best thing would be to get a mineral analysis and supplement properly. Just like bloods and gear you don’t just add caber because your on Tren or deca. You do if bloodwork shows needed! Works in the same way.
A proper in depth mineral balance can go a LONG way, look into it sometime guys it was a big potential in physical enhancement
Rido
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water retention from salt doesn't work the same way as in blood work.... I look at blood work all day...
best thing to do is keep hydration up and keep potassium:sodium to a 1:1 ratio
your kidneys try to autoregulate the balance.. assuming its healthy
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theotherguy
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You’re conflating basic biochemistry/hydration required for life to exist with using exogenous hormones for recreation. It isn’t the same at all.
TheLittleShop
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It is though, we use PED’s to optimize human potential, another pathway is have a proper mineral balance for basic cell function. I’m not pulling this out of my ass.
A proper mineral balance in an athlete is absolutely an advance in progress.
TheLittleShop
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If you have high amounts a of unbound iron your going to be toxic and your cells cannot function optimally, it’s a pro oxidant. that goes for nutrient absorption, digestion everything
Rido
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Your body regulates external electrolytes very well but still requires intake.
When you do exogenouse peds your body fully shutdown.
It is not the same.
Blood work still does not reflect salt/potassium that plays a role in fluid retention, elevated BP, etc. You are pulling this out of your ass.
Interindividual Variation in Serum Sodium and Longitudinal Blood Pressure Tracking in the Framingham Heart Study - PMC
Recent cross-sectional studies have suggested that higher serum sodium levels may be a marker of elevated blood pressure. It is unclear whether serum sodium levels are related to the risk of developing hypertension in the community. We investigated ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
ImHereForBothReasons
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I think it is also important to remember magnesium. Low magnesium will cause your kidneys to waste potassium.
TheLittleShop
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No no no a hair mineral analysis, you can’t get that from reg doc. It show uranium to phosphorus to copper zinc magnesium and have a professional in that field review and formulate a protocol.Your body regulates external electrolytes very well but still requires intake.
When you do exogenouse peds your body fully shutdown.
It is not the same.
Blood work still does not reflect salt/potassium that plays a role in fluid retention, elevated BP, etc. You are pulling this out of your ass.
Interindividual Variation in Serum Sodium and Longitudinal Blood Pressure Tracking in the Framingham Heart Study - PMC
Recent cross-sectional studies have suggested that higher serum sodium levels may be a marker of elevated blood pressure. It is unclear whether serum sodium levels are related to the risk of developing hypertension in the community. We investigated ...
You are right though about the relation to hormonal shut down after exogenous hormone use. I was unaware that was your connection.
Purely pointing out that those type of specific mineral test have a place in bodybuilding and human performance.
TheLittleShop
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This is a huge one yes
theotherguy
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I wasn’t implying you were pulling it out of your ass. You seem to have a decent idea of what you’re talking about.
What I’m saying though is that comparing electrolyte balance to recreational PED use isn’t a good metaphor.
And I wouldn’t call OP’s path forward “optimization” I would call it “getting his shit in check”. Optimization, IMO, is dialing in that last 5-10% to reach 100% compliance. Getting his shit in check would be the first 90-95% of compliance just to be in a maintainable state.
I think a better metaphor would be “hey I’m running grams of AAS but I’m still fat, why am I still fat?” Well it’s because your diet sucks. In this case, it sounds like OP is having an issue with the basics of hydration and electrolytes.
TheLittleShop
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Well anyways the new hocus pocus comes out soon on Disney plus
Hightower
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Thanks for the link, very useful article for me.Interindividual Variation in Serum Sodium and Longitudinal Blood Pressure Tracking in the Framingham Heart Study - PMC
Recent cross-sectional studies have suggested that higher serum sodium levels may be a marker of elevated blood pressure. It is unclear whether serum sodium levels are related to the risk of developing hypertension in the community. We investigated ...
