Caber and “tren gyno”

[Jbagel132]

So I seem to have a small lump under my left nipple, and the nipple has become sensitive. It’s not outwardly visible. Did notice some microscopic leakage from it last Friday. Currently running:

20mg/day Test P
80mg/day Mast P
80mg/day Tren A
10mg/day Halo
100mg/day Anavar

I’ve ruled out estrogen based gyno because my test is low, and I don’t aromatize that much as it is. Started taking 0.25mg of caber e3.5d, tonight will be my 4th dose. Hasn’t gotten better, has t gotten worse. Am I taking the right approach to treat it? Should I increase to 0.5mg e3.5d?

 

[amitp5197]

go do blood work for E2 and prolactin.

 

[MixModz]

So I seem to have a small lump under my left nipple, and the nipple has become sensitive. It’s not outwardly visible. Did notice some microscopic leakage from it last Friday. Currently running:

20mg/day Test P
80mg/day Mast P
80mg/day Tren A
10mg/day Halo
100mg/day Anavar

I’ve ruled out estrogen based gyno because my test is low, and I don’t aromatize that much as it is. Started taking 0.25mg of caber e3.5d, tonight will be my 4th dose. Hasn’t gotten better, has t gotten worse. Am I taking the right approach to treat it? Should I increase to 0.5mg e3.5d?

Yes you can but take cabergolin before a meal, that’s better for the absorption

But for me the best things for gyno is surgery
Those shit helps to prevent but not really for removed it

 

[Deleted member 127229]

You haven’t ruled out gyno until you get bloodwork

 

[Jbagel132]

You haven’t ruled out gyno until you get bloodwork

I have bloodwork for when I was running 200mg/week Test C, and my E2 was 54pg/mL, so based off this bloodwork I can assume my E2 is even lower at 140mg/week Test P.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

I have bloodwork for when I was running 200mg/week Test C, and my E2 was 54pg/mL, so based off this bloodwork I can assume my E2 is even lower at 140mg/week Test P.

Ok?….go get blood work again. This is a new cycle it doesn’t matter what your body did last cycle. You’re running more gear…get bloods done before you start popping a bunch of random shit you may not need.

 

[Jbagel132]

Ok?….go get blood work again. This is a new cycle it doesn’t matter what your body did last cycle. You’re running more gear…get bloods done before you start popping a bunch of random shit you may not need.

Not that easy man, I live in New York haha

 

[amitp5197]

get bloodwork again, its not have to be E2, it can be other form of estradiol, and it also can be progesterone .
post here the bloodwork results

 

[Klimmzugernie]

In most cases it is not prolactin which cause ED and Gyno it is progesterone which goes a long metabolic pathway to estrone --> estradiol --> estriol.

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

Not that easy man, I live in New York haha

Even if you use privatemdlabs.com?

 

[Jbagel132]

Even if you use privatemdlabs.com?

Well I was using Marek Health and was able to get away with it for a few times, but then When I tried over the summer the lab tech told me she couldn’t do it because of the New York law, something about having to get the lab req from a New York licensed doctor (even though Marek did that). Maybe I’ll try privatemdlabs

 

[Type-IIx]

I have bloodwork for when I was running 200mg/week Test C, and my E2 was 54pg/mL, so based off this bloodwork I can assume my E2 is even lower at 140mg/week Test P.

54 pg/mL is high, and it's very high for 200 mg test cyp weekly.

Since Tren increases estrogen sensitivity your problem here is that estrogens are too high absolutely and your breast tissue is more sensitive to it locally.

AI & SERM, combined.

 

[Jbagel132]

54 pg/mL is high, and it's very high for 200 mg test cyp weekly.

Since Tren increases estrogen sensitivity your problem here is that estrogens are too high absolutely and your breast tissue is more sensitive to it locally.

AI & SERM, combined.

Yessir, started arimidex today, going to do 0.5mg e3.5d. Ordering a SERM, should I get raloxifene, nolvadex, or both?

Also, could’ve sworn I read somewhere that masteron acts as a SERM, is this true or false?

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

Well I was using Marek Health and was able to get away with it for a few times, but then When I tried over the summer the lab tech told me she couldn’t do it because of the New York law, something about having to get the lab req from a New York licensed doctor (even though Marek did that). Maybe I’ll try privatemdlabs

Gotta love dumbass laws lol hopefully the privatemdlabs works out for you.

 

[Rido]

start popping a bunch of random shit you may not need.

Isn't that the fun part of doing drugs?

 

[PinIt2WinIt]

Isn't that the fun part of doing drugs?

No…popping random shit that you THINK you need is the fun part and then figuring out the consequences after. Also there aren’t consequences…it’s always worth it no matter what

 

[Type-IIx]

Yessir, started arimidex today, going to do 0.5mg e3.5d. Ordering a SERM, should I get raloxifene, nolvadex, or both?

Also, could’ve sworn I read somewhere that masteron acts as a SERM, is this true or false?

I prefer Raloxifene.

Masteron prevents estrogen uptake into (e.g., breast) cells. SERMs antagonise estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus and pituitary. So nah, it doesn't act like a SERM, but seems to be a mild antigynecomastic agent.

 

[Type-IIx]

In most cases it is not prolactin which cause ED and Gyno it is progesterone which goes a long metabolic pathway to estrone --> estradiol --> estriol.

In men, all E2 is a product of Testosterone aromatization. You're describing an irrelevant pathway, and again:

a) Androgens that interact with PR are not progesterone
b) Progesterone is functionally irrelevant in men

 

[Jbagel132]

54 pg/mL is high, and it's very high for 200 mg test cyp weekly.

Since Tren increases estrogen sensitivity your problem here is that estrogens are too high absolutely and your breast tissue is more sensitive to it locally.

AI & SERM, combined.

Does deca also increase estrogen sensitivity?

 

[Type-IIx]

Does deca also increase estrogen sensitivity?

Yes.