Hcg trt question

[Theworm]

Hey guys, I’ve been on trt for maybe 10 years now, and have been experimenting on dosing etc. I was on 100mg a week test plus 1000 hcg weekly and my TT was 600 and free T 165 (35-155 range). Then I bumped up the hcg cause my testicles were still smaller , I bumped up to 1700 weekly hcg, now my TT is 855 and my free T is 239 (35-155 range).

I was thinking of dropping the testosterone and going up to 2000 hcg weekly and seeing where my T is. Pros: I would be making my own T and keeping my testicles alive. Cons: I feel less energetic the higher I go on hcg, maybe it’s just a mental thing, I haven’t done my test shot in a few days (I’ve been doing EOD dosing) and maybe brain fog but I think I’m fighting a cold.

Anyone with insight? My goal would be to increase my testicle size while maintaining my T but at the same time I want to feel my best.

Or is this dumb and stick with test?

 

[tuffie]

Thats a tough one. maybe a before and after of the testicular atrophy could shed some light on the situation if its that much difference or maybe its in your head lol

you might see a difference if you drop the test, that would be step one. dont rely on memory and eye balling. thats like eyeballing some sdrol and hoping its 'x' amount when really its 'x' amount.

 

[Wunderpus]

Hey guys, I’ve been on trt for maybe 10 years now, and have been experimenting on dosing etc. I was on 100mg a week test plus 1000 hcg weekly and my TT was 600 and free T 165 (35-155 range). Then I bumped up the hcg cause my testicles were still smaller , I bumped up to 1700 weekly hcg, now my TT is 855 and my free T is 239 (35-155 range).

I was thinking of dropping the testosterone and going up to 2000 hcg weekly and seeing where my T is. Pros: I would be making my own T and keeping my testicles alive. Cons: I feel less energetic the higher I go on hcg, maybe it’s just a mental thing, I haven’t done my test shot in a few days (I’ve been doing EOD dosing) and maybe brain fog but I think I’m fighting a cold.

Anyone with insight? My goal would be to increase my testicle size while maintaining my T but at the same time I want to feel my best.

Or is this dumb and stick with test?

Jeez, you're dabbling in the danger zone of hCG side effects at that dose... I wouldn't, personally, go above the 1700 you're at. I would be concerned about E2-related issues and some mood swings that would remind you of a menopausal female.

 

[Theworm]

Jeez, you're dabbling in the danger zone of hCG side effects at that dose... I wouldn't, personally, go above the 1700 you're at. I would be concerned about E2-related issues and some mood swings that would remind you of a menopausal female.

Yeah good point, I’ll stick with 125 mg test and 1000 iu hcg weekly

 

[SenorSuperdrol]

There’s plenty of guys on Hcg mono therapy.

To increase testicle size we always go the lh pathway. Would going the fsh pathway with hmg help? They are a cell on the testicle too.

I don’t know where the consensus is now a days but I think there’s a point of leydig cells desensitizing.

 

[Theworm]

I wonder if if I’m on 1000 hcg weekly, would droping test dose and increasing hcg dose increase the testicles more?

 

[boophomet]

There’s plenty of guys on Hcg mono therapy.

To increase testicle size we always go the lh pathway. Would going the fsh pathway with hmg help? They are a cell on the testicle too.

I don’t know where the consensus is now a days but I think there’s a point of leydig cells desensitizing.

What I remember was the study that people originally referenced was done on rats, which doesn't translate to humans in this regard. There's also been other studies where they gave humans doses of up to 10,000 IU/week and didn't note any desensitization.