Primo = low E2? Ratio of Test to Primo?

[Alistair7]

Using both Bayer test and primo, janoshik results are in my post history. I was running 700 test and 550 primo and felt ok until I started doing 500iu of rhcg e3d and developed higher BP and nipple sensitivity. Of course it’s hard to say without bloodwork but having had crashed e2 many times before I don’t think mine was low by any means. I was running test at 1.25x primo so that could be why. But there’s a lot of individual variances with this this stuff, for some people tuning test at twice the amount of primo causes side effects and I’ve heard of others feeling fine with 100 test and near a gram of primo.

Anyway, I’ll get bloodwork in 2 weeks and see what it’s like, mood wise I don’t feel like I’m on anything which is both a positive and negative although I miss having the mild euphoria I had using anadrol or Proviron.

I’m planning a blast of both these compounds in almost exact doses as you. How were your results with this cycle?

 

[Ss99]

I’m planning a blast of both these compounds in almost exact doses as you. How were your results with this cycle?

It’s going very well, better than any of my previous cycles but it’s still far too early to say for sure as I’m only a few weeks in. Tren gave me severe brain fog within a week of using it, so in that sense primo is excellent as my mind is clear and I honestly feel like how I did on my cruise (125 test). Skin is clear and doesn’t look unhealthy, 0 acne, 0 hair loss, 0 back/shin pumps and no mood issues. I’ve had the e2 issues creep on me these past few days because of the HCG so I’ve gone down on my test to around 550 for the time being, and I’ll increase it again when I increase my primo dosage or remove the hcg. If I see any sort of plateau the plan is to raise the primo to 750 a week.

This is my first time running primo and I was skeptical of peoples opinions on it at first but I can see why it’s hyped so much and the name is really fitting too. Anavars another favourite compound of mine but it makes me feel pretty emotionless and it gives me bad shin and back pumps, whereas I have 0 issues like that with primo. Test is test at the end of the day and being able to run it without frequently dosing an AI is always a plus.

 

[Blange89]

I did 1000mg test and 800 primo. No ai. Looked and felt great

 

[BackPain]

I did 1000mg test and 800 primo. No ai. Looked and felt great

I bet man.... for how long did you run this cycle? Do you remember how much lean mass you gained?

I am interested in lean gains only... don’t need to blow up since I am already 240Lbs (~17%BF). If anything, I need to recomp better.

 

[Turbo charged]

Fastest way to increase estrogen is dbol. I can run 800 primo and 400 test and be absolutely fine but others are different. Hcg can help it don't raise my BP but everyone is different.

 

[Blange89]

I bet man.... for how long did you run this cycle? Do you remember how much lean mass you gained?

I am interested in lean gains only... don’t need to blow up since I am already 240Lbs (~17%BF). If anything, I need to recomp better.

I don't remember my exact numbers as far as weight. But I did

1-5
500 test
400 primo

6-10
750 test
600 primo

11-16
1000 test
800 primo

Solid quality gains that lasted.

 

[Alistair7]

It’s going very well, better than any of my previous cycles but it’s still far too early to say for sure as I’m only a few weeks in. Tren gave me severe brain fog within a week of using it, so in that sense primo is excellent as my mind is clear and I honestly feel like how I did on my cruise (125 test). Skin is clear and doesn’t look unhealthy, 0 acne, 0 hair loss, 0 back/shin pumps and no mood issues. I’ve had the e2 issues creep on me these past few days because of the HCG so I’ve gone down on my test to around 550 for the time being, and I’ll increase it again when I increase my primo dosage or remove the hcg. If I see any sort of plateau the plan is to raise the primo to 750 a week.

This is my first time running primo and I was skeptical of peoples opinions on it at first but I can see why it’s hyped so much and the name is really fitting too. Anavars another favourite compound of mine but it makes me feel pretty emotionless and it gives me bad shin and back pumps, whereas I have 0 issues like that with primo. Test is test at the end of the day and being able to run it without frequently dosing an AI is always a plus.

Thanks for the detailed feedback. I blast n Cruise on TRT (200mg or less) and have only done high test cycles up to 750mg a week. I’m gained as much as I can with that and primo seems like the perfect addition. Planing 500mg of primo for 12 weeks with 600mg test cyp + 150mg test prop for a total of 750mg. I plan to inject EOD. I have some anavar to throw in the last 6 weeks in case gains stall.

I think the guys who say test is test are the ones who don’t aromatize at a high rate. I love test cyp but when I get to 600mg not even 25mg of exemestane seems enough. I recently tried test prop and it’s a night and day difference from cyp as far as E2 goes.

do you think Anavar makes you feel emotionless because of it’s E2 lowering potential? It has always made my joints hurt and I’m guessing it’s because it’s lowering E2 too much. With all the extra E2 from 600mg of test cyp I’m hoping I don’t have issues this time.

 

[ludi_janez]

I recently tried test prop and it’s a night and day difference from cyp as far as E2 goes.

What are you talking about? Test is test.

 

[SkankHunt]

Fastest way to increase estrogen is dbol. I can run 800 primo and 400 test and be absolutely fine but others are different. Hcg can help it don't raise my BP but everyone is different.

This is what I’ve heard and I planned on doing it. My cycle plan was 300 test with 600 primo. I was gunna throw in anadrol instead of dbol.

 

[BackPain]

do you think Anavar makes you feel emotionless because of it’s E2 lowering potential? It has always made my joints hurt and I’m guessing it’s because it’s lowering E2 too much. With all the extra E2 from 600mg of test cyp I’m hoping I don’t have issues this time.

Anavar never made my joints hurt. Winstrol is well known for that though.

But I won’t deny that I can feel my E2 lowering when I take 50mg of Anavar

 

[KCMakaveli]

All the bros that run 1:1 ratio have some underdosed primo! that shit is max 50% of what it should be!

my primo, 1:1, estrogen is CRASHED!

Mine too. Just got labs back from running 600 test and 400 primo and e2 was 17 fuck. Gonna lower primo to 200, even though it sucks

 

[Turbo charged]

Mine too. Just got labs back from running 600 test and 400 primo and e2 was 17 fuck. Gonna lower primo to 200, even though it sucks

Don't do that just take some hcg problem solved

 

[KCMakaveli]

Don't do that just take some hcg problem solved

How much you recommend? 2 x 500 iu?

 

[kosp]

Damn, this just happened to me with Masteron enanthate.

I was doing 250 test 400 mast and felt like shit after a few weeks, this last week I skipped last Masteron dose and upped test to 500, next week I will continue doing 500 test 400 mast.

It seems that the 1:1 ratio for test+dht is accurately safe.

I don´t get those beach body cycles of super low T and mast at 600, it must feel like shit, but everyone is different.

 

[Turbo charged]

How much you recommend? 2 x 500 iu?

I would bast 1000 twice a week for 2 weeks in your case then bump it down to 500 and 500. Screw lowering the primo.

 

[Turbo charged]

Damn, this just happened to me with Masteron enanthate.

I was doing 250 test 400 mast and felt like shit after a few weeks, this last week I skipped last Masteron dose and upped test to 500, next week I will continue doing 500 test 400 mast.

It seems that the 1:1 ratio for test+dht is accurately safe.

I don´t get those beach body cycles of super low T and mast at 600, it must feel like shit, but everyone is different.

You go off of test completely 3 weeks before a show. Test definitely holds water. Low test cycles are best for showing lean muscle mass. There are ways to keep estrogen up with low test and high dht cycles. I ran 1000 primo a week with 300 test. Blast 2500 iu of hcg per week split felt like a God. Also you can easily pop a few dbol if you get very low estrogen and that will raise it in 3 days but that's just a temporary emergency fix.

 

[Evom1]

E2 is good for me with 1050 test and 600 primo

 

[Turbo charged]

E2 is good for me with 1050 test and 600 primo

A gram of test is a waste. With 600 primo. Not needed at all. When I ran 1000 test I ran 1000 primo 600 stenbolone acetate. 700 tren and 100 winny a day. That was competition prep. 1000 with 600 primo totally defeats what primo is used for.

 

[Evom1]

A gram of test is a waste. With 600 primo. Not needed at all. When I ran 1000 test I ran 1000 primo 600 stenbolone acetate. 700 tren and 100 winny a day. That was competition prep. 1000 with 600 primo totally defeats what primo is used for.

Perhaps for you, this is what works best for me. We are all different.

700 tren and 100 Winny is not necessary in my opinion. During prep my tren and winny topped out at half your doses.

These are two good examples of differences between individuals.

 

[Turbo charged]

Perhaps for you, this is what works best for me. We are all different.

700 tren and 100 Winny is not necessary in my opinion. During prep my tren and winny topped out at half your doses.

These are two good examples of differences between individuals.

I was going for my pro card and that's what it takes and then some to get it. The effects of 600 primo is not going to shine for what it is really intended for is what I meant. But you are right every one is different. Glad my contest days are over looking back it was a waste.