is Testosterone a weak anabolic/muscle builder?

[Mac11wildcat]

test is useless. never use more than what you need to maintain sexual function

Don't believe me? Okay then lets science it. Go inject 3 whole grams of testosterone each week for 2 months, and by the end of the 2 months stop all injections and let the water/glycogen bloat dissapate. Then tell me how much actual contractile muscle tissue you gained

Spoiler: Not an ounce and anyone who says otherwise is confusing intracellular water retention and glycogen supercompensation with actual tissue. And that'¨s not even the worst part about testosterone. The worst part is that you'll look like a bloated high bloodpressure water retaining michellin man whilst on high test, with fat estrogen filled cheeks.

Lol.

 

[SmallOnGear]

Most anabolics build close to the same muscle mg for mg from my experience. A lot of the difference comes down to E2 and how much water you’re holding.

agree with this. they have unique secondary effects tho like eq for endurance, nandrolone for joint support, primo to lower e2 ect . . .

thats what your cycle should be based on as well as how you react to each compound obviously.

 

[JackSkel]

test is useless. never use more than what you need to maintain sexual function

Don't believe me? Okay then lets science it. Go inject 3 whole grams of testosterone each week for 2 months, and by the end of the 2 months stop all injections and let the water/glycogen bloat dissapate. Then tell me how much actual contractile muscle tissue you gained

Spoiler: Not an ounce and anyone who says otherwise is confusing intracellular water retention and glycogen supercompensation with actual tissue. And that'¨s not even the worst part about testosterone. The worst part is that you'll look like a bloated high bloodpressure water retaining michellin man whilst on high test, with fat estrogen filled cheeks.

Lol. You… you’re obviously joking.

 

[Piromanu87]

If only someone did a test only cycle in this whole world to see if they gain and keep muscle....well i guess we will never know.

 

[ripper908]

meh I find I get the best results on high test

400 mg of test only a week and I look pretty damn massive

bumstead apparently only runs 500mg of test a week in his offseason (insane genetics I know)

and most of the top coaches have their guys on a "solid test base" (matt jansens words) and add in other anabolics from there

 

[VenomYo]

meh I find I get the best results on high test

400 mg of test only a week and I look pretty damn massive

bumstead apparently only runs 500mg of test a week in his offseason (insane genetics I know)

and most of the top coaches have their guys on a "solid test base" (matt jansens words) and add in other anabolics from there

nobody is disputing whether or not test is wet, because it is super wet, so of course you'll look massive. But does it build muscle? No not really.

Bumstead is only on 500mg test? Haha now that's a laugh. the man is on gh, test, a 19nor, orals and insulin. His coach is hany rambod. He makes sure that chris is loaded up with insulin before each work out, he's known for that

The mere notion of chris bumstead only being on 500mg test in his off season and nothing else is absurd and laughable

 

[narta]

nobody is disputing whether or not test is wet, because it is super wet, so of course you'll look massive. But does it build muscle? No not really.

Go take your prohormones buddy and leave grown up stuff to the grown ups.

And before you "Ignored and muted" go fuck yourself.

 

[AbstractMind]

8 months of nothing but 500 test and 4 iu of growth

 

[VenomYo]

theres no difference

thanks for proving my point. you probably should have used something else than test

Wait actually there is one difference, pic on the left is taken in your house and the "after"-pic is with a pump in the gym

What a stupid post you made

 

[VenomYo]

Go take your prohormones buddy and leave grown up stuff to the grown ups.

And before you "Ignored and muted" go fuck yourself.

ignored and muted

 

[29trt]

theres no difference

thanks for proving my point. you probably should have used something else than test

Wait actually there is one difference, pic on the left is taken in your house and the "after"-pic is with a pump in the gym

What a stupid post you made

dude wtf is wrong with your eyes.... even his calves are bigger don't tell me he pumped his calfs.... don't make me take out the pixel calipers

 

[VenomYo]

dude wtf is wrong with your eyes.... even his calves are bigger don't tell me he pumped his calfs.... don't make me take out the pixel calipers

naaah

 

[AbstractMind]

theres no difference

thanks for proving my point. you probably should have used something else than test

Wait actually there is one difference, pic on the left is taken in your house and the "after"-pic is with a pump in the gym

What a stupid post you made

I went from 5’8 233 to 246

Aka probably bigger then you

So suck my balls lmao

 

[Zmn71]

I went from 5’8 233 to 246

Aka probably bigger then you

So suck my balls lmao

Do you know how much bigger you’d be if you ran 75mg test and 500 tren?!


Obviously kidding. OP is just looking for reactions.

 

[AbstractMind]

Do you know how much bigger you’d be if you ran 75mg test and 500 tren?!


Obviously kidding. OP is just looking for reactions.

Sometimes people will say/do anything to try and justify their viewpoint, even if they’re wrong. Toxic character trait.

 

[Zmn71]

Sometimes people will say/do anything to try and justify their viewpoint, even if they’re wrong. Toxic character trait.

For people that preach low test high tren, look at Jon skywalker or whatever. Physique hasn’t changed pretty much ever.

 

[AbstractMind]

For people that preach low test high tren, look at Jon skywalker or whatever. Physique hasn’t changed pretty much ever.

I think for people that are high converters to estradiol they should probably keep test low-moderate and add in something like primo or mast etc to add to total anabolic load

If you tolerate test well then you can get away with higher doses. Some people just don’t tolerate it well. I’ve seen guys get wierd edema off 300mg with estrogen under control

It should go without saying that a cycles parameters should be focused around the persons goals, competiton prep etc.

Nothing is ever set in stone. If I grow off of a certain dose someone might need more/less or different compounds switched around

 

[AbstractMind]

For people that preach low test high tren, look at Jon skywalker or whatever. Physique hasn’t changed pretty much ever.

an edit to my last post :

I wasn’t directing the post to you or trying to insult your intelligence, was just speaking generally ! Haha.

 

[Rido]

8 months of nothing but 500 test and 4 iu of growth

Stop lying. I see the Microsoft paint editing

 

[AbstractMind]

Stop lying. I see the Microsoft paint editing

I should have fixed my shitty hair cut too