hawkberry04
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Would a low dose of anavar (maybe 10mg/day?) be beneficial for a mid-distance runner?
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Low Dose Anavar for Runner
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It works great, have a friend who's a runner and she uses it at that dose. That would be a good dose/cycle for a female. If you're a male, it's best to run testosterone as a base
hawkberry04
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I should add I’m also a cyclist - 150-200 miles/week
hawkberry04
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I’m on 75 mg test cyp/week. Is that a good baseline to run with the var?
Avarice911
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That would suffice if you know that’s your base TRT dose
hawkberry04
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Any endurance runners out there use it? Running 40+ miles/week?
UncleBuns
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Up test and/or throw var in at 20 - 40 mg for heavy training period. Drop down to trt dose 4 weeks ish before performance period to let weight drop off. There is a great thread here written by a distance runner who used only test and winstrol on training/performance days with great success. Many people, myself included, get significantly heavier on above trt test and I get heavier on var. The benefits of 200 - 250 test and 40mg of var during a training period are amazing though. The boost in recovery speed is very noticable.
Adding 10mg var on low dose trt is an interesting idea. Please try it out and report back! Track your weight, times, recovery etc. 10mg is low enough that it may have little impact on health and weight. It may lower your SHBG significantly though.
Adding 10mg var on low dose trt is an interesting idea. Please try it out and report back! Track your weight, times, recovery etc. 10mg is low enough that it may have little impact on health and weight. It may lower your SHBG significantly though.
I wouldn’t follow the advice of “up test” if power to weight ratio is important in your discipline. If 75mg is working for you, add anavar (or winstrol) on top of that.
The more test you take, the heavier you’ll be.
TeeJay2022
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Do the gains stay when you stop taking Anavar? I’m planning to do 30 mg a day for 6 weeks. But don’t want to use anabolic for some years but I will keep going to the gym 5 times a week though.
It’s like saying “do the gains stay when you finish your training mesocycle”.
Athletes use AAS to enhance recovery and increase progressive overload during a specific training block. An example would be that you want to work on your rate of force development with a 4 week program of plyometrics and resistance exercise in the gym. Once you’ve finished the mesocycle you might have shaved a few tenths of a second off your acceleration off the starting blocks or whatever.
If you’re just running and not doing supplemental training activities, there’s probably no use in taking steroids. You won’t be faster on them because you’ll be heavier, and once you stop them you’ll no longer be enhanced.
Athletes use AAS to enhance recovery and increase progressive overload during a specific training block. An example would be that you want to work on your rate of force development with a 4 week program of plyometrics and resistance exercise in the gym. Once you’ve finished the mesocycle you might have shaved a few tenths of a second off your acceleration off the starting blocks or whatever.
If you’re just running and not doing supplemental training activities, there’s probably no use in taking steroids. You won’t be faster on them because you’ll be heavier, and once you stop them you’ll no longer be enhanced.
TeeJay2022
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would it be okay to take testosterone E after my Anavar only cycle. Will I lose muscle mass doing it that way instead of stacking them together?
hawkberry04
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What kinda mileage does your friend do?
Avarice911
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Doesn’t make much sense to do it that way. Should be running test from the beginning if you’re going to go ahead and do it anyway.
T&H
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Judging by all 6 of your posts and the questions you posed, you aren't ready to begin using Testosterone. I'd highly advise against it until you further educate yourself.
GuerillaPete
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What do you mean you get heavier ?
If you eat the same as before and var raises your metabolic rate you get leaner.
TeeJay2022
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Yeah it’s more of a delay for me in the test because of finances lol but thanks mate.
TeeJay2022
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I was on testosterone from a clinic for 4 months but I got off of it because I couldn’t afford to keep making payments on it.. lol so I’ve been trying to find a way to get around that for now
I mean that all AAS (and testosterone) increase the capacity of the muscles to hold glycogen, creatine, and other nutrients (all to different extents). That extra stuff (plus the water it’s bound to), weighs something.
As an example when I add 40 or 50mg of Deca to my TRT I gain 4kg. That’s not extra muscle is it? I haven’t just gained 4kg of muscle in a week or two, right? The same amount of muscle just weighs more.
In my experience, out of the compounds I’ve used, Nandrolone does this the most and Masteron does this the least. Anavar would be somewhere between the two extremes.
This is fine for a body builder but not an athlete interested in power to weight ratio. That’s one of the reasons why people in sports tend to use short acting compounds. They can leverage AAS for a specific training block and then have it out their system and excess weight gone in time to perform optimally.
Here’s an example: say I was competing at pull-ups (for instance). It would be the equivalent of giving myself a handicap by strapping a 4kg weight vest to myself. I’d obviously lose. Whereas if I had done all my training with 4 extra kilos (and crucially, taking advantage of the enhanced recovery AAS gives me) and then I competed 4kg lighter, I’ve just given myself an advantage.
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GuerillaPete
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Anavar is a known dry steroid we are not talking deca.
You are over complicating it.
If you eat the same with the same aas and add 20-30 mg of anavar for 4 weeks you will do more pull-ups then without the var.
GuerillaPete
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I see your point and this being a forum i should probably also express my thought process so others can understand what i mean .
Bodybuilders are in general egocentric they think the world spins around them well not all but most.
Many bodybuilders are under the false assumption PED(performance enhancing drugs) where invented for them but in reality the ones that where invented for sport specific reasons where done so for athletes.
If you use this substances in a way that hinders your performance you are not doing them right.
You can go trough lists of athletes and look at stuff they got caught with and you will understand that at the highest levels they don't use stuff to hinder performance.
They measure everything and use them for a benefit that i have heard form experts is from 10%-20%gain in performance.
Did Lance Armstrong look like he is holding water?or do you think he was cramping up?
If you get a negative from your protocol you are not doing it right.
Are there sports where no PED is the right way to go?
Yes there could be but mid distance running is not one.
So going back to your example of carrying extra weight .
Just run enough test to not get water retention and use the rest of your aas something that agrees with you.
Of course you can take 100 mg of anavar and get cramped up .
Use the right dose or get help from someone experienced that can make you a good protocol.
Also keep in mind that you get two types of benefit from anavar.
You get and instant benefit and a benefit you build up.
So for something like running i would remove the var before competition.
But for pullups i would leave the anavar in for the extra neurological benefit it gives .
I have pushed my testosterone dosage up to 1gram to see where i start experiencing a negative on athletic performance but have not found it yet.
Growth hormone generic up to 8 iu meditrope people say they hold lots of water on them not me.
So i don't understand where the problem is without knowing more what they do what they eat what allergies they have, inflammation a lot of things can cause this but usually there is something wrong.
50mgs of deca i gained 4 kg is not normal so i think you should figure it out or dont use deca unless you want to hold the water some sports with no weight cap could be a good thing .
So this was a longer post to explain my thoughts and my experiences .
