Fixed dosage vs titrating

[westplankton8900]

I‘ve heard many people prefer starting low and titrating up. Is it just to asses side effects / make sure your body can handle the compound or does it actually have a benefit for muscle growth?

 

[Palifter]

The former. But that ideology shouldn’t really apply to things like testosterone.

I can see it possibly holding more weight in say a contest prep setting with harsher orals in play or harsher oils like tren.

But even then, I’d opt for a fixed dosing protocol personally.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

It is not to assess side effects. By the time you’re ready to titrate with several drugs you should already understand your own interactions with them.

A smart individual ramps calories and training (either via progressive overload or volume) over the course of time.

Why doing so with drugs has not become commonplace, I do not know.

Adding in your first anabolics of a cycle is a guaranteed no plateau zone as they fully saturate. If you limit the first dose to say 60-70% of the intended total, and then add that 30-40% in a few weeks after the saturation you’ll 1000% get better results AND use less drugs over the course of the same time period.

I’m fully on the titration train. My usual course is starting at that ~70% (the target total depends on the individuals experience/size). Train and eat progressively while it saturates (4-6 weeks) + a couple weeks (weeks 6-8). Then add the ~30% in around week 8. Ride until it saturates again (another 4ish, so week 10-12). And if a final touch is needed consider an oral or fast ester drug to finish off.

 

[BigTomJ]

You can titrate down if side effects become intollerable, but titrating up for nearly all injectables (tren a would be really the only exception) is absolutely pointless.

Fixed dosing for non contest AAS use is the proper way to go in my opinion. Pick a reasonable dose, stick with it, and up the dose next go around if you so choose, you want to avoid changing variables mid cycle.

 

[BigTomJ]

It is not to assess side effects. By the time you’re ready to titrate with several drugs you should already understand your own interactions with them.

A smart individual ramps calories and training (either via progressive overload or volume) over the course of time.

Why doing so with drugs has not become commonplace, I do not know.

Adding in your first anabolics of a cycle is a guaranteed no plateau zone as they fully saturate. If you limit the first dose to say 60-70% of the intended total, and then add that 30-40% in a few weeks after the saturation you’ll 1000% get better results AND use less drugs over the course of the same time period.

I’m fully on the titration train. My usual course is starting at that ~70% (the target total depends on the individual as experience/size). Train and eat progressively while it saturates (4-6 weeks) + a couple weeks (weeks 6-8). Then add the ~30% in around week 8. Ride until it saturates again (another 4ish, so week 10-12). And if a final touch is needed consider an oral or fast ester drug to finish off.

Do you think your approach is similarly applicable to those below your level of physique and experience?

For someone at your level, where plateus are a very real thing, your approach makes sense. I'm not convinced it's the best way to approach cycle design for the more casual users that make up the bulk of users in this forum.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Do you think your approach is similarly applicable to those below your level of physique and experience?

For someone at your level, where plateus are a very real thing, your approach makes sense. I'm not convinced it's the best way to approach cycle design for the more casual users that make up the bulk of users in this forum.

This boils down to dosage. Do you need/is there as much benefit to titrating if your total dose is 500mg? Unlikely.

If you’re using multiple drugs anywhere near the 1000mg total range, I’d argue yes. And requires you to undertand your response to these drugs.

Example: I use mast to help with estrogen management. I know what ratios work for me and where I’d need more estrogen management. If you’re not experienced enough for that then titrating is probably beyond your reach. But people are already using WAY too many drugs at doses WAY to high as it is so..where’s the line between the issue with titrating and the issue of health using drugs to make up for effort and discipline.

 

[BigTomJ]

This boils down to dosage. Do you need/is there as much benefit to titrating if your total dose is 500mg? Unlikely.

If you’re using multiple drugs anywhere near the 1000mg total range, I’d argue yes.

I think that's fair, I can see a use case for a teired, scaled cycle at higher dosage/more advanced cycles.

 

[Palifter]

This boils down to dosage. Do you need/is there as much benefit to titrating if your total dose is 500mg? Unlikely.

If you’re using multiple drugs anywhere near the 1000mg total range, I’d argue yes.

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