Newbie guide to insulin?

[Juicedhead]

From what I've read, humulin-r is to be taken pre workout.

I've heard humulog/rapids are better but humulin-r is easy to access to start with and cheap. I'll look into humulog in the future

I meant it as insulin is different for everyone. I cant use it pre, makes me feel like shit and I cant train well with it. Also meant it as in you have to worry about going hypo during training so you have to have intraworkout carbs which just complicates everything. Start with it post training and see how you respond. Also idk if anyone said this Id just start with gh and add slin later on.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Been on hgh a long time.

I haven't had any issues pre-WO with 10iu insulin, I don't even need my intraworkout carbs really since I usually eat fruit/oatmeal/slowly released carbs before hand.

 

[quadzilla]

Yeah i know it's considered cheap and anyone can use it but i don't really intend to add slin without adding first the GH, or at least the fast/rapid ones.. Perhaps 20-30 iu lantus with 400-500gr carbs per day would be helpful either with HGH or not, i'll see..

Another thing i would like to ask regarding lantus, i know combining trash food and high fats+high carbs with slin is a terrible idea and obviously if you have a free day or a cheat meal while using fast insulin you'll just skip it, but what about lantus? If you have a cheat meal per week off season is it reasonable to not take lantus that day or you proceed as usual? I know it's active for like 20 hours so if you pin in the morning whatever time the cheat meal will be insulin secretion will be higher. Maybe a silly question though, i'm just curious

You're WAY overthinking this. Have your cheat meal.

 

[Juicedhead]

Been on hgh a long time.

I haven't had any issues pre-WO with 10iu insulin, I don't even need my intraworkout carbs really since I usually eat fruit/oatmeal/slowly released carbs before hand.

if it works pre then do it pre. Whatever works for you and you feel the best doing do that.

 

[AlexDavis43]

if it works pre then do it pre. Whatever works for you and you feel the best doing do that.

This. And if you're a beginner (not you Juice), always keep extra carbs everywhere. In your car, gym bag, at work, different rooms in your house, et cetera. And do frequent blood glucose monitoring. Ok I'll stop now

 

[beh]

Thanks for the ebook.

So basically, only use it on a bulk.

I might try humulin (the easy otc stuff) as pre workout 5-10iu with 8-10g of carbs per iu immediately afterwards as a beginner primer, but humalog is the good stuff (and longer acting even better). I like milk so i'd drink milk during workout or as my carb source, and then have a coca cola nearby for sugar in case hypo.

Could you send me the ebook also?

 

[Avarice911]

Thanks for the ebook.

So basically, only use it on a bulk.

I might try humulin (the easy otc stuff) as pre workout 5-10iu with 8-10g of carbs per iu immediately afterwards as a beginner primer, but humalog is the good stuff (and longer acting even better). I like milk so i'd drink milk during workout or as my carb source, and then have a coca cola nearby for sugar in case hypo.

Why you say only on a bulk? I’m experimenting with it on a cut rn and it’s only been a week so far but appears to have no impact on fat loss thus far. I’ll have a better idea in another 2-3 weeks tho. I simply just use my carb allotment around/during my workout to line up with the insulin

 

[Trades]

Why you say only on a bulk? I’m experimenting with it on a cut rn and it’s only been a week so far but appears to have no impact on fat loss thus far. I’ll have a better idea in another 2-3 weeks tho. I simply just use my carb allotment around/during my workout to line up with the insulin

People say to only use it on a bulk likely don't have any actual/practical experience. Insulin stops catabolism. Taken at appropriate dosages within your carbohydrate window during a cut phase is very effective.

 

[Sector]

In college when I was using hgh/slin I'd use 10iu pre workout, and would take a large container of orange juice (or any juice really) that I poured egg whites into, and would sip thay throughout my workout. Helped to avoid going hypo, plus I was feeding my body a large amount of protein with the added egg whites.

Had really great results, but didn't run it more than a few months. A few hypo scares was off-putting enough to stop, but make sure you run HGH with it or you can potentially pack on a lot of fat quickly if you're carbs are too high. It's a delicate balance between consuming enough carbs to not go hypo, but not too many carbs where you're packing on fat, since insulin makes your body absorb everything.

Definitely be careful with insulin though, it's not a joke. Going hypo is scary, make sure you have a carb source with you always. I even brought glucose tabs in my gym bag just incase as an added measure.

But yeah, egg whites + juice mixed together was magical with GH Slin. Didn't taste as bad as you'd think either

 

[barbell001]

Very Interesting and informative to see everyone's protocols.

Can I ask what results people are seeing from doing the general 6 to 10iu's of fast acting Slin before training in terms of bodyweight increase and over what kind of timeframe?

After the Insulin use is stopped does the extra bodyweight then disappear fairly quickly or does it stay on as long as you increase your food intake to match? Or is it a case of having to use the Insulin for as long as you want to have the extra bodyweight similar to using steroids?

 

[Trades]

Very Interesting and informative to see everyone's protocols.

Can I ask what results people are seeing from doing the general 6 to 10iu's of fast acting Slin before training in terms of bodyweight increase and over what kind of timeframe?

After the Insulin use is stopped does the extra bodyweight then disappear fairly quickly or does it stay on as long as you increase your food intake to match? Or is it a case of having to use the Insulin for as long as you want to have the extra bodyweight similar to using steroids?

I used 6iu pre and 6iu post of humalog today and I'm cutting. My carbs will be around 300g for the day and I'll end in about a 500 calorie deficit. Tomorrow I will wake up lighter than I was today. Did insulin make me lose weight?

 

[Sector]

Very Interesting and informative to see everyone's protocols.

Can I ask what results people are seeing from doing the general 6 to 10iu's of fast acting Slin before training in terms of bodyweight increase and over what kind of timeframe?

After the Insulin use is stopped does the extra bodyweight then disappear fairly quickly or does it stay on as long as you increase your food intake to match? Or is it a case of having to use the Insulin for as long as you want to have the extra bodyweight similar to using steroids?

You do gain weight very rapidly upon starting it, as your muscles get flooded with glycogen and you retain a lot more water, but it's not necessarily a bloated look, your muscles get extremely full. It's honestly the best I've ever looked, but I was also running pretty high test/tren/mast/var at the time too with pharma genotropin. When you stop it you lose a lot of water weight too though, but if you run it long enough you should be able to put on a good bit of muscle with the right protocol, so the water fluctuations don't really matter that much.

I forget what my exact results were, but i also dont think i ran it long enough. This was 6 years ago for me though, it's all a little foggy now, but I think I blew up around 10-15lbs within a few weeks, and it wasn't fat either, mostly water, probably some muscle too

 

[barbell001]

It must be quite a dramatic change to see in that space of time, I have used Novorapid doing 6iu's post workout but kept getting hypos and not watching carb intake enough. Running it alongside high trenbolone and dianabol was too much for my blood sugar levels at the time I think. I have some Lantus which I want to try but at a low dose which hopefully won't act as aggressively and over a longer time period. The hypos for sure can be frightening, sometimes they can keep coming back too even when you think you have taken in enough carbs at the time of having one.

 

[Sector]

It must be quite a dramatic change to see in that space of time, I have used Novorapid doing 6iu's post workout but kept getting hypos and not watching carb intake enough. Running it alongside high trenbolone and dianabol was too much for my blood sugar levels at the time I think. I have some Lantus which I want to try but at a low dose which hopefully won't act as aggressively and over a longer time period. The hypos for sure can be frightening, sometimes they can keep coming back too even when you think you have taken in enough carbs at the time of having one.

Yeah the hypo is the reason I stopped. Really scary shit. Even with the juice and the glucose pills, it was still happening a lot. I remember one day when I took it and I thought I had juice in the fridge, opened up the fridge, and there was nothing-- just instant panic. Started feeling like I was going to pass out. Worst experience ever. That was the day I stopped

If you're running Lantus you have to be extra careful with your diet since it's in your system much longer. The good thing about the Humalog-r is that it was in and out relatively quick, so there was windows where I wouldn't consume any fats, and kept it strictly protein/carbs. With Lantus the spikes might be less intense, but it's also in your system for longer, so you have to watch your fat intake and keep the diet dialed in (because again your body just soaks up whatever you put into it like a sponge, so If you're consuming fats you definitely won't like the results). Lantus could be safer though, I've honestly never tried it. Only ran the OTC walmart slin

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

Nobody is "blowing up" with 10iu of rapid Slin a day..

 

[karambit]

Do you know how many people die from insulin each year....?

Its surprisingly hard to die from it.... You can certainly fall into a coma but bounce back. Pretty sure I recall a news story about someone who tried to delife themselves with a full bottle and they bounced back from it.

100% anyone messing with it should respect it! Don't be operating machinery if your not dialed in on your nutrition windows when using it. Thats the sort of thing that could kill you when using insulin.

1 of the best thing a coach did for me when I first used it was made me sit down with him after the 1st shot with some simple sugars on hand and then ride it out to experience the warning signs so I would know if they ever set in.

Bro!! Your coach sounds like an Awesome dude !

 

[BrokenOne]

Yeah, he was a good guy! He had made all the mistakes himself, then did everything he could to make sure others didn't have to learn the hard way themselves.

After he did that, I knew every single time if I needed to get some extra carbs in with Insulin. Saved me a few times!

 

[Kdubswoldgier]

Is there any advantages to using over 10iu rapid/ fast acting insulin pre workout?
I've only used it as pre-workout and the couple times I tried 13iu (never had any negative affects at 5iu or 10iu ) I was trying to more aware of potential negative sides and it could have just been coincidence type of thing...
Not trying to hear about crazy dosages just if 15iu is that much better (muscle pump and anabolic affect) than 10iu ?
(And my carb intake is hefty so not worried bout if taking in more carbs would warrant higher iu...)
Thanks

 

[jJjburton]

Have to finish reading. And havent maxxed out anything yet. I will go for a bit more with other AAS, but very interested in the short term use. Everyone here seems to say 10 iu, does lower doses work well too? And does one use more on lagging body parts or on whole body pinning ED?

 

[AlexDavis43]

Have to finish reading. And havent maxxed out anything yet. I will go for a bit more with other AAS, but very interested in the short term use. Everyone here seems to say 10 iu, does lower doses work well too? And does one use more on lagging body parts or on whole body pinning ED?

I've been using 10 IU preworkout since forever. Not sure I notice a difference anymore, but seems like a good add-on if it fits your protocol/lifestyle/goals.

Every day; it works everywhere/systemically. But I guess if you wanted to limit overall exposure to exogenous insulin you could use it on days when you're training lagging body parts. Seems kinda minutiae tho