Trainedbytylerlofthouse19
Member
Then eat some more...
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Little to no gains
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When/if you have time would love to see your split and actual lifts you do. I get it’s different for everyone thanks for info nonetheless.
Thanks for responding appreciate you. I train intensely… just not heavy. My mind says I can my body says no lol. As for eating I’m that guy who’s scared to get fat. And yes I know without calories you’re just spinning your wheels. Anyway again appreciate the positive feedback
unkwnlifter
New Member
Do you do before and on cycle blood work. Every one saying 300mg test isn't enough well you're running 2 orals on top you're running 720mg of gear a week. If you don't feel anything I'd say it's fake....
I can get results off 250mg test. Even my cruise of 200mg week changed me from not running test at all. But I had low T and high E at one point.
Now I'd say 300 isn't enough if your a monster who always runs gear sure. I always run low does cycles....less is Best for me. But 300 mg test isn't crazy
I'm currently on 325 mg test 225mg tren for a total of 650 mg/week of gear and seeing great results.
So many variables since we don't know put before and on blood work, what lab you're running and how long you have been on
I can get results off 250mg test. Even my cruise of 200mg week changed me from not running test at all. But I had low T and high E at one point.
Now I'd say 300 isn't enough if your a monster who always runs gear sure. I always run low does cycles....less is Best for me. But 300 mg test isn't crazy
I'm currently on 325 mg test 225mg tren for a total of 650 mg/week of gear and seeing great results.
So many variables since we don't know put before and on blood work, what lab you're running and how long you have been on
Spaceman Spiff
Subscriber
You should gain weight in a caloric surplus. Whether fat or muscle. It is atleast nutrition related for sure
lukiss96
Member
The problem is not the dose.
Mishka
Member
you do also eat little to nothing and take little to nothing PED wise ;>
Deskoze38192
Member
The problem with not growing is never gear related. We can grow without gear if training stimulates growth and diet is in a calorie surplus with required macros being met.
If someone is on gear and not growing it is because they either are not stimulating growth or they are not consuming the required macros.
If someone is on gear and not growing it is because they either are not stimulating growth or they are not consuming the required macros.
Juicedhead
Member
If you havent gained any wieght or strength at all your gear is for sure bunk.
There's studies showing you will literally gain lean tissue on aas without training. Just saying.
OP you wouldn't be the first to complain about Driada gear, both on here and off... Never used them myself so I can't comment.
Get bloods done and see where your levels are at.
Doses are very moderate IMO. If I was you, I would pick one oral and up the dose on that and the test, and bump up calories.
Agree with this. The dbol and adrol would cause a significant amount of water retention, and this would occur fairly quickly given the relatively short half lives, and there absolutely would be strength gains, even if eating in a calorie deficit with a less than optimal diet.
What ester is the testosterone, and how long have you been on everything?
Deskoze38192
Member
Yes, I understand your point, and while there is truth to that the OP admittedly, doesn’t train heavy, and admittedly, doesn’t eat enough that coupled with a less than ideal training regiment for growth will cause no growth on its own, whether on AAS or not on AAS
This is a harm reduction forum and with those factors being stated by the OP our advice, should never be to up the dose before we tell him to get his training and diet in order.
He should definitely already be getting blood work that is a given. The fact he isnt is also another red flag.
Training diet bloodwork
No he is not going to need more than 300mg of test with the orals he's taking.
There is no need to drop the orals. He should have seen something by now, this guy is saying not one pound and no strength. 300mg of Test is more than enough.
This. 300mg of Test is enough to give you strength and with the orals he should have seen something. These other posts saying "it's not fake, don't listen to the fake gear comments" must be using badly underdosed garbage if they are saying up the dose.
OldGHGuy
Member
You have fake gear 100%. This isnt a monster scale by any measure BUT it is enough to see good/great gains, especially for a newbie, even doing ANY kind of workout. Just in water weight you should have gained a few pounds. Find a reliable source. Do your blood tests, too, if tou need proof positive your gear is fake.
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readalot
Guest
Is this parapraxis?
300 mg/week of Test E is 300 mg/week of Test E and plenty for a newbie. Unless it isn't 300 mg/week Test E. Should know before you use it.
The OP should be trying to use the least drugs possible as he starts AAS not the most. Does he have any business doing them at all? Doesn't seem so based on the posts.
The disturbing trend that keeps getting mentioned on this forum and others is not the first "cycle" with 250 or 300 mg/week. No, it's the apparent trend to start gear as soon as you've got the Crunch Fitness membership and have watched a few Internet guru videos.
Considering a first cycle....all your confusion cleared up here.
:) So you want to dabble with AAS for body dysmorphia or cosmetic reasons? Step 1. Understand the basic workings of hpt(g)a - hypothalamic pituitary testicular (aka gonadal) axis. Control theory. Where does testosterone exhibit negative feedback? H or P? How about estradiol? Step 2...
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I would get ferocious pumps just tying my shoes with that amount of those orals alone if the gear was real and dosed accurately. It wouldn’t matter what I was eating or how I was training. I’m leaning towards garbage gear based on initial post.
eery
Member
If you arent gaining weight, add 200-300kcal and repeat until you see the desired weight gain.
I know bikinigirls that eat 3000kcal.. you dont need drugs, you need food, quality training and sleep.
I know bikinigirls that eat 3000kcal.. you dont need drugs, you need food, quality training and sleep.
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