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Yea but alot of you guys would look like them natty with same dosages

People take too much, forum will cleanse itself with years
 
Noshit look my genes. A friend who started the gym same day as me but natty is bigger xD
Bodybuilding is all genes
Some people need gear to look like a well built natty lol. Imagine going on a financial forum and saying "yeah but you're still poor".

500 test 400 EQ basic cycle but grew like a weed. Good sleep, huge appetite, good pumps and strength in the gym and felt good you really don't need anything else.
 
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Noshit look my genes. A friend who started the gym same day as me but natty is bigger xD
Bodybuilding is all genes

I cant find a way to word this question without it sounding harsh.

What kind of lazy loser victim mentality is that?

Yes genetics are a thing but so is consistency, hard work, and discipline. You quit before you even got started. Pointing the finger at genetics and high doses. Any other excuses you would like to share with the group?
 
Yes genetics are a thing but so is consistency, hard work, and discipline. You quit before you even got started. Pointing the finger at genetics and high doses. Any other excuses you would like to share with the group?
THATS THE THING!!! We both started 3 years ago and I was locked in, and he was not. AND IM NOT NATTY! HE IS.
He looks like stage ready in a few months.

I still train and locked in totally. But when I saw my natty friend sure stung a little from the mass he got. :(
 
THATS THE THING!!! We both started 3 years ago and I was locked in, and he was not. AND IM NOT NATTY! HE IS.
He looks like stage ready in a few months.

I still train and locked in totally. But when I saw my natty friend sure stung a little from the mass he got. :(
Theres not a shot in this world a natty is out gaining someone on steroids, unless you did the bitch out 200mg “cycles” or you need to learn to eat if he is out gaining you lol
 
Theres not a shot in this world a natty is out gaining someone on steroids, unless you did the bitch out 200mg “cycles” or you need to learn to eat if he is out gaining you lol
Yea, in my 3 years I was a big chunk on 150mg trt but some var and a vial of npp.

Wonder if I would be bigger than him natty if I perma blasted
 
For what? I will never be big enought to make money with my body.
In 10 years future best I can do in this sport is coach.

No reason to kill myself to look like someone natty.
Ill look natty both ways in the end.

Maybe at 10 years gym time my opinion will change. Who knows.
 
I cant find a way to word this question without it sounding harsh.

What kind of lazy loser victim mentality is that?

Yes genetics are a thing but so is consistency, hard work, and discipline. You quit before you even got started. Pointing the finger at genetics and high doses. Any other excuses you would like to share with the group?

Realising it is not the worst thing, you just get it that you won't be a freak without compromising your health and you do your best with whatever amount of gear you think worths it. But trying to take others down because you're not in the same league it's pretty fakking sad. He could continue what he's doing but it seems he prefer bashing at everyone who uses more than TRT and has significant gains.
 
everyone who uses more than TRT and has significant gains.
I more belive in majority is taking too much.
I cant say the number whats too much, but majority is definitly taking too much.

Hard topic for sure, really interested where will meso be in the future. And if the guys taking "to much" will still be here to tell their story of high doses in 2 years.
Or will they disapear and a new wave of fresh young boddies will come doing everything the same as the last generation.

Good luck brother
 
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I more belive in majority is taking too much.
I cant say the number whats too much, but majority is definitly taking too much.

Hard topic for sure, really interested where will meso be in the future. And if the guys taking "to much" will still be here to tell their story of high doses in 2 years.
Or will they disapear and a new wave of fresh young boddies will come doing everything the same as the last generation.

Good luck brother

Look man, there's 2 kind of ppl. Some want to optimize their health around TRT or HRT and some want to gain muscles using bigger dosages. There's nothing inbetween, if someone wants to be a freak with 150mg test, it's not going to happen.

I don't care about what others want for their bodies and how much are willing to sacrifice their health to achieve this. I can only intervene to mitigate some potential side effects and tell my opinion about some mistakes that perhaps are not considered.

It's not good trying to bring others down or letting them think this is all wrong or anethical because anethical is to use whatever test dosage if you're not hypogonadal in the first place. So no judgement here on the dosages unless it's something ridiculous like a 3-4gr cycle for a noob, i'll say my opinion if i see something excessive and potentially harmfull like stacking different compounds that doesn't "match" or neglecting bloodwork, skewd markers etc.

If you worry about meso-ers you could take a look at other boards and you'll realise pretty fast most guys that run 2gr - 2+gr cycles are there and present for years and years.

I'm not advising anyone to jump at a 2gr cycle ofc, but if someone's taken that decision already i think it's better to guide and pinpoint the crucial stuff than mocking him and imply he will no longer with us in meso or in life in a few years.
 
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