Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

I’ve used them before I learned about the UG market. Those domestic peptide vendors are ripping people off. Hell, kitsforless should change their name to kitsformore.
I mean I don't know they may have superior products, idk. The difference in maceys and Walmart i guess, they both ave clothes that will keep you warm... I've never been inside a Maceys though!!! A friend of mine just shared a way of making NAD + from powder so if the couple kits i got does something for me that will be the route I go. This process is a little more complicated than making gear but it was broke down very simple so I'm sure I can get err done.
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I mean I don't know they may have superior products, idk. The difference in maceys and Walmart i guess, they both ave clothes that will keep you warm... I've never been inside a Maceys though!!! A friend of mine just shared a way of making NAD + from powder so if the couple kits i got does something for me that will be the route I go. This process is a little more complicated than making gear but it was broke down very simple so I'm sure I can get err done.
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mind sharing the recipe? I wondered about this before...
 
I mean I don't know they may have superior products, idk. The difference in maceys and Walmart i guess, they both ave clothes that will keep you warm... I've never been inside a Maceys though!!! A friend of mine just shared a way of making NAD + from powder so if the couple kits i got does something for me that will be the route I go. This process is a little more complicated than making gear but it was broke down very simple so I'm sure I can get err done.
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I am 99% sure we all get our peps from the same places as the domestic resellers.
 
- The guy posting his blood work did inject 24h prior to blood draw
- QSC's HMG is advertised as recombinant FSH + recombinant LH

--> his blood work should show elevated serum FSH
It could be a mix up on Qsc's end, it could be an error on his end. Whatever. It's like guessing in the wild. I have seen bloodwork from other members here where FSH was elevated using QSC's hmg.
 
Hey just curious what I got here...

I ordered the 7000iu hcg, 1 kit, and 4 kits of 36iu hcg. I got, uh 6 kits in total. My best guess is the 10x black vials are 7000iu hcg each, and then the red and purple are hgh but not sure on dosages.

Thanks. Pretty sure something extra was thrown in because I left a review. The order came in about a month? To be expected with the holidays but shipping and processing was fast and they updated me and gave me tracking very quickly, and responded quickly and made the order easy.

Last order of HGH and various raws were great, soon as I know which is which I'll start 10iu of hgh again and can post back and review on the delicious CTS and high blood sugar.

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I’m pretty sure the reds are 15iu HGH which tested at 17iu, if it’s the same stock as the August/Christmas promo. Do they have A021 on them anywhere?
The 24’s I think were grey tops, so with the reds you got slightly less then the 36iu’s, which test usually 41-42iu’s.
 
Can someone give me a source for NAD+ that doesn’t look like shit? First SSA fucked me over with shitty NAD and now Q dropped the ball on this one.
I’ve been running NAD for almost 2 years now. Recently finished up my XCE [RIP] stock & started on my Q. It’s reconstituted and working, as expected.
How many MG are in your vial and how much BAC did you add?
 
Bruh like half the vendors have the same exact item codes for everything, ships in the same clear plastic vial cases with the same printed label on top. They’re all ordering from the same place. This was investigated on the Swiss server already.
I think this is even more true now than before the raws shortages. I’m certain SSA and HYB are getting their peps from the same source now. AAS also. And I suspect Wuhan Bio, Nanjing Blue Ocean, ASC, SRY, QYC, GYC, LSPL, etc are also. Too many similarities. Some of them even run the same or similar promos at the same time.
 
I think this is even more true now than before the raws shortages. I’m certain SSA and HYB are getting their peps from the same source now. AAS also. And I suspect Wuhan Bio, Nanjing Blue Ocean, ASC, SRY, QYC, GYC, LSPL, etc are also. Too many similarities. Some of them even run the same or similar promos at the same time.
Some are domestic based group buyers posing as Chinese companies I think as well, Nexaph was like that for a while at least I stopped following them. HYB and SSA are the two vendors I’m 100% positive get it from the same source.
 
I think there are a lot of unnecessary conspiracies and misinformation floating around right now. Not just in Meso, but discord, etc. I’ve spent a bit of time looking into it because I am owed a reship.

- Did EL commend US CBP for their seizures?

Not that I can find. They did commend the American ITC ruling that CBP should “crackdown on the on the unlawful importation and sale of knock-off tirzepatide products.” I can’t find any such ITC ruling or even statement to that effect.
As far as I can see, this is still an open case against 11 companies who used the trademarked name and suggested it is the same drug.

The only ITC docs regarding tirz are here, here, here, here, and none them are rulings or mention the border. In fact, the latest one is pretty clear the ruling/judgement date is set for May 2025.

Despite what EL submitted, the matter is strictly about the trademark name and advertising used by those companies. It’s a Section 337 complaint (copyright and patent infringement and intellectual property). The jury is out (ha ha) on whether this covers Tirz without any mention of EL products or claims. So far, EL is the only source saying otherwise.

- Is this an exit scam?

Unclear. I did a bit of a deep dive into the money, and it doesn’t seem to be such. It looks like a reasonable withdrawal of funds. Certainly not the “omg they’ve cleared out MILLIONS and ran!” rhetoric going on in the discord servers.

What’s brilliant about this supplier is we don’t know if any of them (T & assistants) are even in China. It ships from China… but we all know logistics can be arranged from any computer.

- Is there a focus on fent?

It looks like the focus is on the import of raw materials used to make fent. Is a small box of raws or vials enough to make fent? Idk. You tell me.

- Is there a conspiracy of Qsc Stans to tie up the thread to dilute criticism?

Not that I can see. I do see a sometimes unhealthy community of likeminded people socializing. I can’t imagine most of us have a lot of people in our social lives that care as much about the community, harm reduction, etc. Let people connect.
Let people bully each other. This may be one of the last areas we can do that.

- who the fuck am I to even comment? Do I even lift?

Idk. I have learned more from you people than anywhere else. I’ve used the advice here to encourage my husband to incorporate T into his routine. Y’ALL! The way it has helped him. I’m learning and so don’t yell at me for being here. I also kind of love Tren Tracey. Whoever came up with that is genius. We’ve renamed our spazzy dog Tren Tracey.

TL:DR- don’t panic. Fact check your shit and note the source. Xoxoxo
 
I think there are a lot of unnecessary conspiracies and misinformation floating around right now. Not just in Meso, but discord, etc. I’ve spent a bit of time looking into it because I am owed a reship.

- Did EL commend US CBP for their seizures?

Not that I can find. They did commend the American ITC ruling that CBP should “crackdown on the on the unlawful importation and sale of knock-off tirzepatide products.” I can’t find any such ITC ruling or even statement to that effect.
As far as I can see, this is still an open case against 11 companies who used the trademarked name and suggested it is the same drug.

The only ITC docs regarding tirz are here, here, here, here, and none them are rulings or mention the border. In fact, the latest one is pretty clear the ruling/judgement date is set for May 2025.

Despite what EL submitted, the matter is strictly about the trademark name and advertising used by those companies. It’s a Section 337 complaint (copyright and patent infringement and intellectual property). The jury is out (ha ha) on whether this covers Tirz without any mention of EL products or claims. So far, EL is the only source saying otherwise.

- Is this an exit scam?

Unclear. I did a bit of a deep dive into the money, and it doesn’t seem to be such. It looks like a reasonable withdrawal of funds. Certainly not the “omg they’ve cleared out MILLIONS and ran!” rhetoric going on in the discord servers.

What’s brilliant about this supplier is we don’t know if any of them (T & assistants) are even in China. It ships from China… but we all know logistics can be arranged from any computer.

- Is there a focus on fent?

It looks like the focus is on the import of raw materials used to make fent. Is a small box of raws or vials enough to make fent? Idk. You tell me.

- Is there a conspiracy of Qsc Stans to tie up the thread to dilute criticism?

Not that I can see. I do see a sometimes unhealthy community of likeminded people socializing. I can’t imagine most of us have a lot of people in our social lives that care as much about the community, harm reduction, etc. Let people connect.
Let people bully each other. This may be one of the last areas we can do that.

- who the fuck am I to even comment? Do I even lift?

Idk. I have learned more from you people than anywhere else. I’ve used the advice here to encourage my husband to incorporate T into his routine. Y’ALL! The way it has helped him. I’m learning and so don’t yell at me for being here. I also kind of love Tren Tracey. Whoever came up with that is genius. We’ve renamed our spazzy dog Tren Tracey.

TL:DR- don’t panic. Fact check your shit and note the source. Xoxoxo
Oh god I did not change the font or format. Don’t know what happened there.
 
Some are domestic based group buyers posing as Chinese companies I think as well, Nexaph was like that for a while at least I stopped following them. HYB and SSA are the two vendors I’m 100% positive get it from the same source.
I suspect that about Nexaph also. I purchased a few Reta kits from them early on but there was something odd with them and that GB Raven Character. So I moved on. Other sources like GA and Ronsen I am more unsure of.
 
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