Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[buffaloindierock]

So I’m confused. Is QSC just down for the holidays or is there something else going on?

TL;DR

QSC had some sort of security issue and if you look at the BTC ledger, their account was dumped. This was followed shortly by Tracy going "we're gonna take a few days off due to security issue."

At the same time, we're like month 4 into increased pressure by the Chinese government to crack down on AAS, and the timing is suspicious. In all likelihood, QSC is either completely done, or, best case scenario, are laying low, waiting for stuff to blow over, and maybe adjusting OPSEC when it comes to AAS.

In a message a LONG time ago, Tracy mentioned that QSC/parent company has legit generic pharma biz, so I imagine they don't want the whole operation to be nuked because of the grey market arm of their biz. This could either mean they're shutting it completely down, or they're truly laying low. Considering it's nearly been 2 weeks of no communication and ALL channels are shut down, more people are expecting it to be completely done.

This includes their telegram, whatsapp, and even their website.

The dumping of the BTC was mysterious. I don't think anyone has figured out if the money was handed over to Chinese authorities, cashed out into other wallets to obfuscate it and keep it safe, or if an employee/ex-employee helped himself to their coffers and they shut down while they figure stuff out. The exit scam talk seems kind of out there - QSC did enough business that unless this version of the exit scam is "crap, we can't do business, refund no one" - there was more to be gained simply by laying low and coming back later.

Most people believe and I think this is valid - we don't see Tracy ever again. What we will see is a company...6 months from now...that operates nearly identically, is priced identically, and looks very similar to QSC going by a different name. A lot of us have seen this movie before.

Either way, some people unfortunately got boned since it doesn't appear shipments are going out. Some people got lucky and shipments went out before the announcement.

The only thing to really do is move on, go find another place to get gear, and see if Tracy does in fact come back.

 

[Groovemakr]

Could anyone share a new source to the US? Much appreciated, thanks.

 

[Juiced_lizard]

Could anyone share a new source to the US? Thanks.

No, go look in steroid underground. Tons of sources.

 

[didleyr6]

Could anyone share a new source to the US? Much appreciated, thanks.

Steroidify has been creating physiques since 2008. Go get em tiger

 

[Ryandes]

My tracking shows arrived at destination/port via plane for about 4-5 days now but no updates further. Anyone had this before? If customs snagged it wouldn’t tracking update that customs had it?

 

[egruberman]

At the same time, we're like month 4 into increased pressure by the Chinese government to crack down on AAS

I don't think it's AAS the Chinese government was cracking down on, but rather chemical manufacturers that might be producing fentanyl precursors. That's not to say that QSC was or was not, but they're in the business of producing pharmaceutical precursors among other things and so regardless of what they were actually doing, I imagine they're facing some serious scrutiny.

Whether they come back or not, is anyone's guess. I wager that Tracy would like to come back if possible and preserve his reputation which would entail filling all the outstanding orders and handling any reships. However, that could quite likely be well out of his control.

My instinct suggests that the value of the outstanding orders and reships is much lower than what he values his reputation. Even if it weren't and QSC re-emerged as someone else, there's a risk that if they were identified their reputation would immediately go to shit.

Whatever the case may be, I have almost $1k that I presume is gone. I placed an order maybe an hour before they announced their hiatus. My impression is that there are a few people in similar circumstances. For many others, I suspect their packages are simply held up in customs and may eventually be released.

 

[beanitup]

BJJ is brazilian jiu-jitsu. It was more of a preventative measure for later on.

Spinal decompression creates space between your disc. Most chiropractors have the table. They strap your upper body to the table and have a harness around your hips and it pulls you apart. I am doing that right now. It was something I did for my L5-S1 too.

The vast amount of knowledge here never ceases to amaze me. Ty for this, I think I've got some ways to go before I can do jiu-jitsu but certainly will look into spinal decompression with a Chiropractor asap!

 

[Jpxxx]

Whats the over under on how many immediately drop to their knees and start blowing Tracy if he returns? My guess 75%

 

[WhyteOwl]

Whats the over under on how many immediately drop to their knees and start blowing Tracy if he returns? My guess 75%

I'll get in line; but I won't swallow. Don't want anybody thinking I'm gay.

 

[Ateam2023]

My tracking shows arrived at destination/port via plane for about 4-5 days now but no updates further. Anyone had this before? If customs snagged it wouldn’t tracking update that customs had it?

Honestly, i don't think anyone really knows , all these orders with tracking numbers etc have seemed to be hit of miss on effectiveness and some get "special treatment " and some are just skating through with ease,,,,

 

[beanitup]

First and foremost, I'm sorry you're dealing with it. It really sucks to be in pain all the time and affects your life in terrible ways.

Mine was L5/S1 as well, not burst, but squished out. I was able to get it managed by doing a combination of stretching and being careful not to sit too much or in the wrong kind of chairs. Most of the improvement I think was simply becoming more aware of what was triggering it. When I lift, I use a belt for 1 plate and up for any lift where a belt would help.

NSAIDs are still useful for flare ups which are unavoidable. There's a spine clinic in the area that has a protocol they run, it's high dose NSAIDs (~3g/day) for a week, then PT after, which include stretching and behavior modification.

I avoid using NSAIDs chronically, I'd rather save that liver bandwidth for other things.

Thank you for the kind words an advice, been dealing with it for almost 3 years now. If you don't mind me asking, could you elaborate on what you mean by using the wrong kind of chairs? I'm currently working using an standing desk for 8-10 hours a day. My liver at this point is cooked, got blood work done recently:






I'm 43, turning 44 in a few months. Energy levels have been at an all time low. Never used anything more than peptides, did blood work b/c I thought my low energy levels were due to my testosterone, but it turns out that I'm ok there. GH is low and issue with liver. Not sure if it's due to me recovering from Dengue fever a few weeks before the test or all the different pain meds doctors have put me on over the years from Ultracet, to gaba, to Lyrica.

Just trying to find equilibrium at this point.

 

[bigtom343]

I don’t have a clue what’s gonna happen with Tracy and QSC. But I’m glad I finished ordering from them back in early November. I had about 10 orders in a row that went smooth and then started to have relatively minor issues on the last two so I decided to complain basically just to watch Tracy show his ass and get a kick out of the other members responses. I could tell that things were going off the rails when they couldn’t respond to messages anymore in a timely manner.

 

[beanitup]

Surgery is the only thing that fixed my L4/L5 permanently. Microdiscectomy. Shaves off a sliver of the disc that’s pressing against the nerve. Had my surgery 9 years ago and I have no issues.

Happy to hear that you had a successful procedure and recovery, from what I've read surgery is a bit of a coin flip. Problem with my sciatica is anything from riding a motorcycle or going on a medium difficulty hike sets it off. I can give up riding motorcycles but love hiking and being outdoors way too much to give that up.

 

[beanitup]

The colors I personally don’t go by. Just the code on the box they come packaged in.

Yeah tracy mentioned earlier that caps don't matter anymore. If you happen to order the same time the promo came out then there's a possibility that the cap color matches what was sent to Janoshik but I wouldn't use that alone.

The code on the box is the best bet.

 

[LGOP528]

The vast amount of knowledge here never ceases to amaze me. Ty for this, I think I've got some ways to go before I can do jiu-jitsu but certainly will look into spinal decompression with a Chiropractor asap!

Just make sure that the chiropractor has the special table before you go in.They adjust the force applied and cycle it. The idea is that fluid and nutrients are getting drawn in. You will know when the force is too high when you have to crawl to your car. I prefer it when I am sore for the rest of the night but good to go the next morning. Also it makes a difference when you focus on relaxing. You will feel a kind of coolness in your spine.

I just want to reiterate what others said, you have to fix the underlying cause. This other stuff will help get the pain level lower so you can do things like physical therapy.

 

[SWFL-239]

TL;DR

QSC had some sort of security issue and if you look at the BTC ledger, their account was dumped. This was followed shortly by Tracy going "we're gonna take a few days off due to security issue."

At the same time, we're like month 4 into increased pressure by the Chinese government to crack down on AAS, and the timing is suspicious. In all likelihood, QSC is either completely done, or, best case scenario, are laying low, waiting for stuff to blow over, and maybe adjusting OPSEC when it comes to AAS.

In a message a LONG time ago, Tracy mentioned that QSC/parent company has legit generic pharma biz, so I imagine they don't want the whole operation to be nuked because of the grey market arm of their biz. This could either mean they're shutting it completely down, or they're truly laying low. Considering it's nearly been 2 weeks of no communication and ALL channels are shut down, more people are expecting it to be completely done.

This includes their telegram, whatsapp, and even their website.

The dumping of the BTC was mysterious. I don't think anyone has figured out if the money was handed over to Chinese authorities, cashed out into other wallets to obfuscate it and keep it safe, or if an employee/ex-employee helped himself to their coffers and they shut down while they figure stuff out. The exit scam talk seems kind of out there - QSC did enough business that unless this version of the exit scam is "crap, we can't do business, refund no one" - there was more to be gained simply by laying low and coming back later.

Most people believe and I think this is valid - we don't see Tracy ever again. What we will see is a company...6 months from now...that operates nearly identically, is priced identically, and looks very similar to QSC going by a different name. A lot of us have seen this movie before.

Either way, some people unfortunately got boned since it doesn't appear shipments are going out. Some people got lucky and shipments went out before the announcement.

The only thing to really do is move on, go find another place to get gear, and see if Tracy does in fact come back.

Who is the BTC guru around here. I was looking at the wallet and there is still 400k in there. Deposits for the most part stopped right at the announcement. The bunch of similar reoccurring debits I don’t understand. But since the shutdown there has been a few big debits one for 29k just yesterday.

 

[egruberman]

Thank you for the kind words an advice, been dealing with it for almost 3 years now. If you don't mind me asking, could you elaborate on what you mean by using the wrong kind of chairs? I'm currently working using an standing desk for 8-10 hours a day. My liver at this point is cooked, got blood work done recently:

Some chairs or sitting positions will cause a sciatica flare up either instantly or within a few minutes. The skill is in noticing which. That said, it took some time and effort for me to be able to sit at a desk for any length of time. I used standing desks exclusively for years.

For me, stretching and movement is what helped mitigate my issues as well as weight loss. It can't hurt, but I can't say it's a panacea for everyone. All of the cases of sciatica that I'm aware of are fairly unique in terms of how people find relief.

 

[max187]

12 weeks on “TRT” 0.6cc of their Test E 250 once a week (150mg I.M)
This test was 6 days after my last shot.
Everything else is in range for the most part.

Currently using QSC Test E at double your dose. ).6ml twice per week, I am doing a blood test next week and will post results to compare.

 

[simplysimple]

I was asking where you guys would buy raw powder now that QSC is shutdown?

@Spaceman Spiff
, not sure what you're trying to say. Was the AAS thing a joke?

@Qualityfirst no they closed abruptly and a lot of packages never came to customers it seems

@Juiced_lizard I looked at bunch of options, but if someone reputable here had soft recommend. It would help, as only ever ordered from QSC

 

[Juiced_lizard]

I was asking where you guys would buy raw powder now that QSC is shutdown?

Spaceman spliff, not sure what you're trying to say. Was the AAS thing a joke?

It means go look for yourself, find a source you trust. Not some guys online that say yes that’s good buy from them.