TRT and low dose primo - new change for me

[Tbaz192]

Muscle candy has his own blend that has I believe double the exemestane same test and I use it still this one just has less ai

Well depending how my labs come back on this primo TRT.
I might just use this for TRT / long term off cycle breaks.
Couple weeks into this 30-40primo and my joints aren’t happy. Could be workload tho.

Appreciate it brother

 

[QuadFather]

Well depending how my labs come back on this primo TRT.
I might just use this for TRT / long term off cycle breaks.
Couple weeks into this 30-40primo and my joints aren’t happy. Could be workload tho.

Appreciate it brother

Low dose anavar for joint relief works for me,

I do not tolerate deca/NPP more than 10mg daily so I switched to low dose anavar and it’s helped tremendously

Anavar is also probably the most expensive oral so some folks will not actually send you Anvar and it’ll be a different oral that you cannot absolutely not run for more than a month, do a blood lab and check your liver values to weeks four weeks in to make sure you actually have real anavar.

I use Stanford’s anavar in liquid form it’s 30mg/ml I shake it up, use an insulin syringe without the needle on it to draw and straight in mouth I stick to .5ml sometimes more

 

[Tbaz192]

Low dose anavar for joint relief works for me,

I do not tolerate deca/NPP more than 10mg daily so I switched to low dose anavar and it’s helped tremendously

Anavar is also probably the most expensive oral so some folks will not actually send you Anvar and it’ll be a different oral that you cannot absolutely not run for more than a month, do a blood lab and check your liver values to weeks four weeks in to make sure you actually have real anavar.

True that. Hopefully Stan doesn’t do that (his var)

But my typically if I recall right my ALT was hit on 50mg Var. But I could be wrong?

 

[QuadFather]

True that. Hopefully Stan doesn’t do that

But my typically if I recall right my ALT was hit on 50mg Var. But I could be wrong?

my ast alt are in the 50’s ,
biluribin is 0.5
and alkaline phosphate is low 40s

This is the last blood lab at the end of 50mg var 14 weeks

straight from sp,

haven’t stopped taking it dropped the dose to 15-30mg daily and liver values improved slightly,

If they get worse or don’t improve I’ll drop it for a break

Kidney values are good and egfr is also 120-130 constantly , kidney health is much more important as they cannot repair themselves like the liver, drink water and keep blood pressure normal, I tried anadrol and dbol oral even though it’s not the strongest like other orals it raise my blood pressure so damn high I worried about my kidneys and kidney damage so I only use anavar oral now

We’re all different brother. This is just my experience with my own body

 

[Tbaz192]

my ast alt are in the 50’s ,
biluribin is 0.5
and alkaline phosphate is low 40s

This is the last blood lab at the end of 50mg var 14 weeks

straight from sp,

haven’t stopped taking it dropped the dose to 15-30mg daily and liver values improved slightly,

If they get worse or don’t improve I’ll drop it for a break

Kidney values are good and egfr is also 120-130 constantly , kidney health is much more important as they cannot repair themselves like the liver, drink water and keep blood pressure low, I tried anadrol oral even though it’s not the worst it raise my blood pressure so damn high I worried about my kidneys and kidney damage so I only use anavar oral

Damn! Good to hear!!!

I was running 50 adrol and my liver values got smacked last cycle.
Was also on EQ. Bulking. Not so clean. So thatll be why.

But I was also taking 2-3g astragalus daily & cycle support supplement. & kidney values didn’t budge much. glad to see that though.

Pretty much on a major break and prioritizing my health now.

 

[OldGHGuy]

Post gym mood of endorphins figured I’d share some random shit.

Recently saw a body building coach share his blood work/protocol

TRT with an AI vs TRT with 30-70 primo.
(Primo depends on your tolerance with e2)
his labs shows more of a hit on his cholesterol with the AI and other slight issues etc.
took labs on very low dose primo and they were better than on an AI & his estrogen was in better control.

So I decided to take that for a spin since I have copious amounts of both & I’m not worried about wasting any.
And I’m tired of popping my AI. I forget so much.

Typically I’m a high aromatizer. 200 a week of test c, put my e2 at 99+ (with no AI)
So I’d take exemstane to control that. But always felt like I have been off with it, and labs were decent. So I just didn’t want to experiment more and pay for multiple sets of labs to dial my estrogen in at a “perfect” level for me.

Fast forward to now!
It’s week 5 of 200 Test 30 primo

Monday - 100mg test 30 primo
Thursday - 100 test
Repeat.

I feel great and amazing. Nothing has been affected. Except maybe slight libido decrease from the primo (does that to me). I just don’t think about sex or the female body as much on primo. I’m pretty neutral in the mind on primo.

Worth a shot yall if you can dial it in.
I’ll have to pull labs to see how I’m doing again.

Why only pinnjng the Primo once per week? Most just split it in half and add it in with their test if pinning twice per week

 

[HeatherSwanson]

200 mg of Test Cyp per week with 100 mg of Masteron and I feel amazing.....libido through the roof and erections all day long.

Pics or it didn't happen

... Agree 100% test primo 2:1 I'll fuck a knotty tree and I'm feeling güd

 

[Tbaz192]

Why only pinnjng the Primo once per week? Most just split it in half and add it in with their test if pinning twice per week

Tbh barely remember posting this.

Primo causes major issues for me so I dropped it shortly after this post I think.

Gives me some inflammation issues and muscle ache/pains. Like my body is fighting off sickness. The whole time.
And I’m weirdly calm/super dry in life/emotions. With no sex drive. Which I even got at a low dose.

Was more of an experiment to see if that would control my e2. Which I never got an answer.

Now I’m going 40mg cyp every other day. And 6mg exemestane x2 a week. Wild.

 

[OldGHGuy]

Tbh barely remember posting this.

Primo causes major issues for me so I dropped it shortly after this post I think.

Gives me some inflammation issues and muscle ache/pains. Like my body is fighting off sickness. The whole time.
And I’m weirdly calm/super dry in life/emotions. With no sex drive. Which I even got at a low dose.

Was more of an experiment to see if that would control my e2. Which I never got an answer.

Now I’m going 40mg cyp every other day. And 6mg exemestane x2 a week. Wild.

Interesting. Well, thanks for sharing!

 

[Avies48]

Tbh barely remember posting this.

Primo causes major issues for me so I dropped it shortly after this post I think.

Gives me some inflammation issues and muscle ache/pains. Like my body is fighting off sickness. The whole time.
And I’m weirdly calm/super dry in life/emotions. With no sex drive. Which I even got at a low dose.

Was more of an experiment to see if that would control my e2. Which I never got an answer.

Now I’m going 40mg cyp every other day. And 6mg exemestane x2 a week. Wild.

Did the primo make u feel weirdly calm/ super dry in emotions? Or were u like this previously?

Id say try and extend ur pins of cyp or try and different ester if its causing that much aromatization… ai’s arent great for u… exemestane can mess with ur joints eventually… and other sides:

Long-term use of exemestane can lead to side effects such as decreased bone mineral density, which may increase the risk of osteoporosis, as well as common issues like hot flashes, joint pain, and fatigue

 

[Ateam2023]

200 mg of Test Cyp per week with 100 mg of Masteron and I feel amazing.....libido through the roof and erections all day long.

thats what im running currently and i have no complaints,, Also a little hgh ,,

 

[Tbaz192]

Did the primo make u feel weirdly calm/ super dry in emotions? Or were u like this previously?

Id say try and extend ur pins of cyp or try and different ester if its causing that much aromatization… ai’s arent great for u… exemestane can mess with ur joints eventually… and other sides:

Long-term use of exemestane can lead to side effects such as decreased bone mineral density, which may increase the risk of osteoporosis, as well as common issues like hot flashes, joint pain, and fatigue

Yeah the primo made me weirdly dry / calm. Probably had a negative effect on my mood with my adhd. Dopamine probs. But the muscle issues were reason enough to never touch it again. My white blood cell would go up on labs.

Shortly after this OG post in February. I had some issues that had me out of the gym for weeks and then months. Hypoglycemia, fatigue, feelings of weak arms hands etc.

So im running the test cyp closer together to avoid spikes and dips in my blood, literally anything to normalize myself and body. & it keeps me from forgetting. Probably going to lower the E0D dose and pull labs see how I’m looking.

Dr has a script for adex that she has yet to send in. Currently just have Aromasin from Stan on hand. Dose wonders lol.

Regardless what dose of test I take. I need an AI. Aromatize at a high rate I guess.

Currently trying to find the love for the gym again. And see if my body can handle it. Possibly day one here

 

[Avies48]

Yeah the primo made me weirdly dry / calm. Probably had a negative effect on my mood with my adhd. Dopamine probs. But the muscle issues were reason enough to never touch it again. My white blood cell would go up on labs.

Shortly after this OG post in February. I had some issues that had me out of the gym for weeks and then months. Hypoglycemia, fatigue, feelings of weak arms hands etc.

So im running the test cyp closer together to avoid spikes and dips in my blood, literally anything to normalize myself and body. & it keeps me from forgetting. Probably going to lower the E0D dose and pull labs see how I’m looking.

Dr has a script for adex that she has yet to send in. Currently just have Aromasin from Stan on hand. Dose wonders lol.

Regardless what dose of test I take. I need an AI. Aromatize at a high rate I guess.

Currently trying to find the love for the gym again. And see if my body can handle it. Possibly day one here

Ok so if im adhd id think, the loss of dopamine would make my life better than using uppers to do stuff unless ur saying the primo made u completely absent and u wanted to do nothing then yeah thats an issue, and i dont want any primo either… if it calms me then awesome but loss of activity would make me worse off

Who was the primo from? Did u get it tested to see if it was actually primo and not mast or something else? I know testing sucks but for the piece of mind…

Ive used adex and aromasin, i like the aromasin better until i crashed my estrogen… then that sucked…

Wonder if it was the primo causing hypo? Thats super weird,

I know guys who dose 10 mlg per day and it helped lower their need for an ai… not ideal but true trt would mimick what the body produces daily… and this ur estrogen should follow suit… some say as ur test goes up not to bring the estrogen down too far or u have issues there as well…

 

[BamaCrazy]

Primo dried out everything. Dry achy joints. Dry skin. Dry frizzy hair. Dry emotions. Plenty of arousal (little Bama was standing at attention all the time) but no libido. My E2 was low or crashed the last 2 cycles. The pip caused constant inflammation and pip even using Stan’s Primo. My CRP spiked and until it was mentioned here I also forgot that my white blood cell count increased.

Next cycle will be something other than Primo.

 

[Tbaz192]

Primo dried out everything. Dry achy joints. Dry skin. Dry frizzy hair. Dry emotions. Plenty of arousal (little Bama was standing at attention all the time) but no libido. My E2 was low or crashed the last 2 cycles. The pip caused constant inflammation and pip even using Stan’s Primo. My CRP spiked and until it was mentioned here I also forgot that my white blood cell count increased.

Next cycle will be something other than Primo.

Exactly what it did to me but my E2 was mid range!

 

[Tbaz192]

Ok so if im adhd id think, the loss of dopamine would make my life better than using uppers to do stuff unless ur saying the primo made u completely absent and u wanted to do nothing then yeah thats an issue, and i dont want any primo either… if it calms me then awesome but loss of activity would make me worse off

Who was the primo from? Did u get it tested to see if it was actually primo and not mast or something else? I know testing sucks but for the piece of mind…

Ive used adex and aromasin, i like the aromasin better until i crashed my estrogen… then that sucked…

Wonder if it was the primo causing hypo? Thats super weird,

I know guys who dose 10 mlg per day and it helped lower their need for an ai… not ideal but true trt would mimick what the body produces daily… and this ur estrogen should follow suit… some say as ur test goes up not to bring the estrogen down too far or u have issues there as well…

Yeah basically made me want to do fuck all, no gym. No mental energy at all.

All my stuff is Stan the mans! And or prescription.

Hypo was a whole different thing. Didn’t mean to make primo seem like the cause.
It wasn’t.

Doctors still have no idea what it is.
Multiple labs panels, heart, thyroid, ultrasounds, scans. Adrenal gh cortisol stress test etc. alll normal

Pretty much just keeping control of my e2 seems to help. But I still have moments of oh fuck I’m crashing.
So yeah not sure but, my body might just be getting old. No longer a teenager. Almost 30. And that’s wild even Thinking about it.
Maybe need to come to terms with things gotta change lol

 

[Zc7219]

Long-term use of exemestane can lead to side effects such as decreased bone mineral density, which may increase the risk of osteoporosis, as well as common issues like hot flashes, joint pain, and fatigue

I’ve been seeing people say this and would like to point out this isn’t exclusive to exemestane. This is from low estrogen. Crashing your estrogen on primo will cause the same issues, not just arimidex or aromasin.

 

[OldGHGuy]

Interesting - A year ago everyone loved Primo. Now, its the worst

 

[The Answ3r]

Interesting - A year ago everyone loved Primo. Now, its the worst

Back when Primo was $70-80 a vial, it was “clean gains, no sides, best compound ever.”

Now at $130 a vial, it’s “overrated, barely does anything, why not just use EQ bro?”
Funny how the love fades when your wallet gets involved.

 

[Ateam2023]

Back when Primo was $70-80 a vial, it was “clean gains, no sides, best compound ever.”

Now at $130 a vial, it’s “overrated, barely does anything, why not just use EQ bro?”
Funny how the love fades when your wallet gets involved.

all these "Pip knots" and f uped injections using primo, has me breakin* wide and skipping the "potential nonsense" primo may cause,, I don't like pip , not enough to "experiment" to see if i get it from primo,,