Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[Ghoul]

I'm guessing someone made a foolish decision trying to impress the Big man and common sense later prevailed. There is nothing that could have been solidly achieved in the 8 hrs that announcement was made. China didn't even have time to announce a counter measure. I'm guessing the thought of the massive backlog made sense prevail

Enforcement requires the appropriate data. USPS is separate from the CBP and Customs has long complained that USPS hasn't provided the required information or
transferred packages to customs for inspection when requested,

When packs come in via the international mail system they don't go to Customs unless they've been requested for inspection, which relies on that data and USPS cooperation.

Just a week ago CBP noted USPS was likely going to be a loophole unless they started getting with the program, including ensuring China post provided the electronic data that's required prior to packages landing.

That likely wasn't done, and the decision was made to stop those packs until USPS ensured they would comply. They are a semi private organization, not under direct control of the feds.

CBP Proposes Rule Changes for De Minimis Shipments

This week, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) published two Notices of Proposed Rulemaking1 that could significantly impact and curtail the entry of low-value shipments not exceeding $800 (commonly known as de minimis shipments) that are eligible for duty-free and simplified entry...

natlawreview.com

 

[Rendlo]

The suspension of De Minimus is still in effect, no (I believe it is but not 100%) ? If so, then something was achieved right, wrong, or indifferent.

 

[Ghoul]

We don't really need to so given to defending actions that aren't smart. The abrupt suspension is complete foolishness regardless of who is responsible for the decision. All this talk of oh the Dems wanted this means nothing. There were a million and 1 things the Dems wanted that has been tossed by this admin, so why go hyper on this one? It was going to cause a headache and they walked back on the foolishness to have a better plan on how to do this.
FYI as I said many weeks ago, Fentanyl deaths are crashing. Unfortunately someone in this admin felt it was a good Idea to freeze public health information so we cannot have the latest numbers, but yes, Whatever was being done was gradually working. How does freezing packs from china actually stop what you claim comes in mainly from mexico?
Anyway, it's all moot now. Time to splurge on reta and check out before another decision is made to ban import of all compounds in Vials

Fentanyl precursers are sent to the US, then smuggled into Mexico for manufacturing because their customs control was too strict for it to get in. Think about that.

 

[Petarosus188]

Well Its 5th February and chinese Holidays end....we got probably robbed

 

[Middus]

Enforcement requires the appropriate data. USPS is separate from the CBP and Customs has long complained that USPS hasn't provided the required information or
transferred packages to customs for inspection when requested,

When packs come in via the international mail system they don't go to Customs unless they've been requested for inspection, which relies on that data and USPS cooperation.

Just a week ago CBP noted USPS was likely going to be a loophole unless they started getting with the program, including ensuring China post provided the electronic data that's required prior to packages landing.

That likely wasn't done, and the decision was made to stop those packs until USPS ensured they would comply. They are a semi private organization, not under direct control of the feds.

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CBP Proposes Rule Changes for De Minimis Shipments

This week, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) published two Notices of Proposed Rulemaking1 that could significantly impact and curtail the entry of low-value shipments not exceeding $800 (commonly known as de minimis shipments) that are eligible for duty-free and simplified entry...

natlawreview.com

How does this negate that it was a foolish decision by the USPS?
lol. I mean They would have to return money. UPS is ending USPS last mile already. USPS was going to have a huge dent in earnings.

 

[SpicyMeatball]

Brother, I hope I’m reading this wrong.

If not you are a smart guy but sometimes I think your lack of impulse control and desire to argue leads you to make poor assumptions and interpret things incorrectly.

You first point I agree with with. 100 percent. Hormones are collateral damage. Primary focus is narcotics with fentanyl being #1.

Hope you aren’t referring to me when talking about gaslighting and integrity.

The rest of what you said is a bit muddled, and I don’t want to comment on something I may misinterpret and further what may be misunderstanding.

Irregardless my message is directed at us as a community. We need to stop bemoaning this and cowboy up a bit. I’m over the whining.

While I enjoy being a hypocrite and getting cheap illicit hormones, my desire to see our country improve dramatically and corruption driven out of government (I’m a small government tough on crime guy) outweighs my desire to benefit from bloated government and corrupt politicians that allow drugs to flow unabated across our border despite unenforced policy.

If it all was directed at me. Go easy.

You (sometimes) use such harsh language and vitriolic attacks it detracts from any real point you have made and candidly lowers your credibility and the respect the community has for you.

If that doesn’t matter to you. Do you boo

that's some potent copium you managed to import before these bans kicked in!

 

[ddauria88]

Well Its 5th February and chinese Holidays end....we got probably robbed

And the world keeps spinning man.. if this is the case, it happens.

 

[Middus]

Fentanyl precursers are sent to the US, then smuggled into Mexico for manufacturing because their customs control was too strict for it to get in. Think about that.

What is there to think about? lol. They simply send the precursors to Mexico . Even US authorities agree that this has been increasingly happening. I mean this was the same thinking that made a country ban flights from one part of the world, but allowed flights from another part ,in the midst of a global contagion.. as if pathogens discriminate based on economic prowess or optics

 

[Middus]

The suspension of De Minimus is still in effect, no (I believe it is but not 100%) ? If so, then something was achieved right, wrong, or indifferent.

It's not kicked in fully. part of it is still in the public comment stage and best strategy is being explored. I suspect sone negotiations will eventually come into place, especially as belt tightening may be upon us.

 

[120nmol]

And the world keeps spinning man.. if this is the case, it happens.

No it keeps spinning if we will allow that
I payed 600 bucks when they requested the payment if that’s the case and I’m sure I’m not the only one in this boat the proper way to handle such a case is to boycott the rest of the suppliers from that region.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Fentanyl precursers are sent to the US, then smuggled into Mexico for manufacturing because their customs control was too strict for it to get in. Think about that.

I agree with you on all your notes regarding the impact of de minimis and the hilarity of people acting like customs can't get strict, despite us seeing it all over the globe, but Mexico gets the majority of the precursors these days sent direct.

They may have some strict customs, but corruption is much more rampant in Mexico than it is in the US and it really does operate the way some people think customs in the US do, payment for large shipments to completely avoid customs. Acknowledged by both the Mexican and American governments, and regularly reported (recently as well) by FT/WSJ/NYT/etc. Some are certainly shipped into the US, but majority of precursors are sent and brewed in Mexico.

 

[Bigoldguy]

“This is a significant challenge for them because there were 4 million de minimis packages per day in 2024, and it is difficult to check all the packages — so it will take time,” she said.

This is about the taxes, nothing more, nothing less.

I do think all of this uncertainty increases the likelihood that if QSC comes back it will be under a new name and after the dust has settled.

Its always about the money...if each of those 4 million packs is worth 10 bucks, a 10% tariff would be 1 million a day income. 365 Million a year...no politician on either side would leave that kind of money laying around...too many worthless causes to give it to.

 

[Grey Spartan]

i got a message back from tracy on telegram asking what products i usually buy?
very strange

Just in case it is the CCP respond. "1 kilo of meth and 1 kilo of black tar heroin" lol

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Its always about the money...if each of those 4 million packs is worth 10 bucks, a 10% tariff would be 1 million a day income. 365 Million a year...no politician on either side would leave that kind of money laying around...too many worthless causes to give it to.

365 million/yr is literally nothing. Not even a hundredth of a percent of the federal revenue numbers for 2024.

 

[NiMa]

Tracy i miss you

 

[Ghoul]

I agree with you on all your notes regarding the impact of de minimis and the hilarity of people acting like customs can't get strict, despite us seeing it all over the globe, but Mexico gets the majority of the precursors these days sent direct.

They may have some strict customs, but corruption is much more rampant in Mexico than it is in the US and it really does operate the way some people think customs in the US do, payment for large shipments to completely avoid customs. Acknowledged by both the Mexican and American governments, and regularly reported (recently as well) by FT/WSJ/NYT/etc. Some are certainly shipped into the US, but majority of precursors are sent and brewed in Mexico.

I agree Mexico is hugely corrupt, and perhaps the flow of precursers shifted back to Mexico. But the fact they were sent to the US for years, until recently, because it was easier to slip through US customs than even the notoriously corrupt Mexican customs demonstrates the scale of the problem.

Being able to order kilo of bags full of white powdered controlled substances with Amazon like ease, even if only AAS, and know it had a 99.9% chance of arriving safely through US Customs is almost hard to believe, yet we accepted that as normal. ANY bag of white powder could get through under those circumstances. It's not like it was checked. and the authorities said, "oh, that's just a kilo of a schedule III drug, let it pass.",

 

[ddauria88]

No it keeps spinning if we will allow that
I payed 600 bucks when they requested the payment if that’s the case and I’m sure I’m not the only one in this boat the proper way to handle such a case is to boycott the rest of the suppliers from that region.

trolling right?

 

[BP_6]

I agree Mexico is hugely corrupt, and perhaps the flow of precursers shifted back to Mexico. But the fact they were sent to the US for years, until recently, because it was easier to slip through US customs than even the notoriously corrupt Mexican customs demonstrates the scale of the problem.

Being able to order kilo of bags full of white powdered controlled substances with Amazon like ease, even if only AAS, and know it had a 99.9% chance of arriving safely through US Customs is almost hard to believe, yet we accepted that as normal. ANY bag of white powder could get through under those circumstances. It's not like it was checked. and the authorities said, "oh, that's just a kilo of a schedule III drug, let it pass.",

A long time ago, I had a pack of about 100 of the brown bayer pakistan test enanthate amps get opened and still made it through for whatever reason. Shipped in for those that remember, a white cheesecloth, with a wax, red stamp that looked like a bomb.

The package had about a 4 inch, cut made with a razorblade along the edge just enough to let you pull it apart and see what was inside. Then that slit got taped closed with a very small pice of green customs tape.

I can only assume the customs guy was probably not in the mood to do with whatever paperwork was needed and in a hurry and just wanted to make sure it wasn't something dangerous and sad F it, and just let it through.

 

[Petarosus188]

No it keeps spinning if we will allow that
I payed 600 bucks when they requested the payment if that’s the case and I’m sure I’m not the only one in this boat the proper way to handle such a case is to boycott the rest of the suppliers from that region.

Im 1200 USD in...

 

[ddauria88]

Im 1200 USD in...

I’m 900. As well as glps for family members ( not sure how to tell them about this) lol