Peptides business

[SVENGALI]

With the explosion of peptides, it is everywhere on socials. However, they are almost always listed out of China.

Sarms and peptides seem to be fully fine and legal to sell in the USA with no licensing medically.

Tirzepatide and semaglutide seem to be a gray area. Whereas HGH is clearly a no go.

Why aren't we seeing everyone here jumping into distribution or starting side hustle?
What risks do you take by doing so?
I know Arctic peptides and others were "shut down" w a cease and desist last yr or so over the GLP1 stuff, but I'm curious as to the business side here.
Thanks

 

[bubba618]

At least in the USA, SARMs and peptides are legal as research chemicals not for human consumption. That's what is getting more domestic vendors than any cease and desist regarding GLP-1RAs. I'm still confused how research chemicals can be sold in bottled tablet form and avoid being labeled as for human use. Why else would they be in tablet form?

As to the risks... civil and criminal penalties for violating FDA, FTC and DEA regulations regarding false and misleading advertising, selling unapproved drugs, selling potentially scheduled drugs, violating consumer protection laws and regulations, product liability lawsuits, fraud, money laundering, tax issues, etc.

That doesn't even touch how the banking industry can blacklist you for questionable activities and debank you.

 

[FastBun]

At least in the USA, SARMs and peptides are legal as research chemicals not for human consumption. That's what is getting more domestic vendors than any cease and desist regarding GLP-1RAs. I'm still confused how research chemicals can be sold in bottled tablet form and avoid being labeled as for human use. Why else would they be in tablet form?

As to the risks... civil and criminal penalties for violating FDA, FTC and DEA regulations regarding false and misleading advertising, selling unapproved drugs, selling potentially scheduled drugs, violating consumer protection laws and regulations, product liability lawsuits, fraud, money laundering, tax issues, etc.

That doesn't even touch how the banking industry can blacklist you for questionable activities and debank you.

Crypto ma boi… also @Ghoul can chime in… he is knowledgeable about this stuff..

 

[SVENGALI]

Crypto ma boi… also @Ghoul can chime in… he is knowledgeable about this stuff..

Cool thanks. Can you expand upon your theory of using crypto being it seems just as easy to track as cash

 

[Ghoul]

Crypto ma boi… also @Ghoul can chime in… he is knowledgeable about this stuff..

It's very tricky to thread the "research chemical" loophole for long.

Peptide Science has been doing it successfully for years, right out in the open. They are very careful about maintaining the "research only" shield.

Everyone else seems to violate the "not for human use" trap sooner or later.

Something as simple as answering "What's the starting dose for X" or "How much would I need to buy for one person for a month?" is enough to prove you knew it was for human use and get busted.

Peptide Science will simply ban anyone who asks a question that indicates they intend to use it for human use.

Loses a few customers, but it's kept them on the right side of the law for a long time.

Bottom line is, if it's not a controlled substance, you can buy/sell/possess it. As soon as there's anything that ties it to human use, it's illegal.

 

[FastBun]

Cool thanks. Can you expand upon your theory of using crypto being it seems just as easy to track as cash

Not xmr…. Also I’m sure you could deposit to bank… look at wfn…

 

[pigeonhed]

Starting a business is hard. Most people are ill-equipped to do it. But starting a business in a gray market is a whole different level of risk. The biggest threats to your investment in this kind of business aren't just competitors... they're legal, financial, and regulatory roadblocks that could shut you down overnight.

The top risks that could kill your business before it starts begin with federal enforcement and US Customs. If your product is flagged as an unapproved drug, expect seizures, fines, or legal action before it even clears customs. The SARMs Control Act has bipartisan support and will likely wipe out the industry within two years. If your entire model relies on SARMs, your timeline is short. Banking shutdowns are another immediate threat. One complaint, one regulatory flag, and your payment processor is gone. Banks treat gray market businesses as high-risk, and without stable banking, you have no business.

Beyond these, state laws vary. Some states are already tightening regulations, making location a make-or-break factor. Is the risk worth the reward? Maybe but it sounds like hard work.

 

[DogFace]

Right now they’re small fish. It’s a gray area which can still end in legal consequences. Anyone with half a brain cell knows if I company is legitimately selling for the purpose of research. IMO the days of the domestic peptide vendors are numbered.

 

[jankoch]

Couple people do this.

But they don't do it 'cold' such as creating a peptide company and just sell.

They connect it with some sort of youtube channel or they create a forum, email list or whatever to advertise these. Or they have a huge marketing budget where they can hire influencers to market their products via affiliate links or coupon codes.

The people who are knowledgable will find a good and somewhat cheap source and won't buy thru unneccessary middle man. Beginners will hear some charismatic guy talking about it and they gonna order from the company they first knew.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Why aren't we seeing everyone here jumping into distribution or starting side hustle?

Many less risky and more profitable side hustles.

 

[SVENGALI]

Many less risky and more profitable side hustles.

Such as?

 

[AlexDavis43]

Such as?

Start a blog or YT channel and get on social media. Can easily ramp up to a few $k/month if you find a good niche, for a low time investment.

Something you know a lot about, like whatever you do for a day job or hobbies etc.

 

[lamehack]

HGH is not scheduled, at least where I live. buying is not a problem, but the seller is in trouble as far as I know

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Many less risky and more profitable side hustles.

Markup on this is semaglutide can be as high as 1000-2000% right now.

that being said, you deal with morons. people who overdose, high risk of entering the hospital.

followed by lawsuits, dumb questions, etc.


I remember someone who used to break up semaglutide vials and sell them individually on this forums. He is long gone now. it was a lucrative business to sell its for 300% markup before the group buys and more chinese suppliers rolled in.

 

[FastBun]

Markup on this is semaglutide can be as high as 1000-2000% right now.

that being said, you deal with morons. people who overdose, high risk of entering the hospital.

followed by lawsuits, dumb questions, etc.


I remember someone who used to break up semaglutide vials and sell them individually on this forums. He is long gone now. it was a lucrative business to sell its for 300% markup before the group buys and more chinese suppliers rolled in.

Is still profitable imo… look at k4L… selling indivially like some sources too… not everyone wants a kit…

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Is still profitable imo… look at k4L… selling indivially like some sources too… not everyone wants a kit…

those are websites.

Pretty much what I am saying is I was one of the first.

I stated my source and essentially relieve the testing of the vials to @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals for people who wanted small vials.

Then so many retards started asking me dumb questions. Some people scammed saying they paid and I was too busy to follow through with it.

I was going through some personal stuff at the time and couldn't think straight.


Overall, reselling online can be dangerous.

"research purposes" does not hold, but there are so many people to take down.

if you piss off the wrong person. you can be in hell

 

[AlexDavis43]

Markup on this is semaglutide can be as high as 1000-2000% right now.

that being said, you deal with morons. people who overdose, high risk of entering the hospital.

followed by lawsuits, dumb questions, etc.


I remember someone who used to break up semaglutide vials and sell them individually on this forums. He is long gone now. it was a lucrative business to sell its for 300% markup before the group buys and more chinese suppliers rolled in.

I don't see slinging in my future, but just rewatched Dallas Buyers Club.

Interesting model for the distribution of non-scheduled drugs. People pay for club membership and you give them the drugs for free.

 

[FastBun]

those are websites.

Pretty much what I am saying is I was one of the first.

I stated my source and essentially relieve the testing of the vials to @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals for people who wanted small vials.

Then so many retards started asking me dumb questions. Some people scammed saying they paid and I was too busy to follow through with it.

I was going through some personal stuff at the time and couldn't think straight.


Overall, reselling online can be dangerous.

"research purposes" does not hold, but there are so many people to take down.

if you piss off the wrong person. you can be in hell

Yeh I remember R… idk how vendors deal with all those questions daily… shit mus be hella time consuming… just to not order anything…damn you were just sending shit out without checking!? I hope you are doing good now bruv… you good person… bad ass capping guide u made too…

 

[FastBun]

Y my messages say waiting mod approval…

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

amn you were just sending shit out without checking!?

that was one order and one scam attempt, the guy got lucky the first time. he tried the 2nd time. Then I sent a message saying I never got payment. Then I got crickets.


Looking back at it.

I should have set him a pack of dog shit from time to time. I wouldn't send him a hot pack cause that attracts attention from me too.