Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

It’s fun to speculate, but there’s a straightforward way for me to assess these circumstances. I have an outstanding domestic order for some primo for almost $1k. The order itself is on WhatsApp as well as the transaction hash. They remain unread.

There’s no (further) risk to me to just wait. That order will simply need to be fulfilled, presuming they still have stock, it’s domestic so no issues with CBP.

Once filled, I’ll be sure to let others know. From there I’ll move forward placing additional orders.
@egruberman
Brother,

I feel like I'm at the track... enthusiastically watching and waiting for your horse to come in...
"C'mon baby!!!"
*where's that wire?*
 
I noticed a couple other China vendors did get a bunch of sales in. After QSC announced they were closing up shop i noticed a couple others said everything was A-ok and continued to take money for a week or so. Im sure they already knew they couldn't send out orders as they were dealing with the same issues yet they opened their crypto wallets ans took the orders anyways.
I had an order make it through from another Chinese vendor. I don’t think they’re on the forum and they didn’t have QSC prices but it was definitely cheaper than domestic
 
The issue in my opinion is that without elaborating on the method it wouldn't help people in here as I could say tomorrow that I am 100% sure Tracy is legit or the opposite.
But without knowing how I can be sure it has no value to the community.
Or am I missing something?
I would disclose my proof after I go through a verification process with them, I will not be disclosing my identity for obvious reasons and I will keep my methods private.

I would share my findings and my reasons to believe it is or isn't who they say they are and it's up to the community at that point to make their own decision but it maybe helpful to some if not all.

Oddly enough I've had to do things like this in the past. And I planned on doing this anyways to make sure it is who they say they are or received a green light from others in this community.

So when "Tracy" comes back online to start taking filling and shipping orders and enough time hasn't passed I will share that information and my conclusion here if things aren't already back to normal by that point.

I hope that answers your question.
 
Quite out of the loop as well. This seems to be a Chinese issue with the CCP. What prompted them to crack down on the hormone trade? Pressure from the new US administration?
 
I would disclose my proof after I go through a verification process with them, I will not be disclosing my identity for obvious reasons and I will keep my methods private.

I would share my findings and my reasons to believe it is or isn't who they say they are and it's up to the community at that point to make their own decision but it maybe helpful to some if not all.

Oddly enough I've had to do things like this in the past. And I planned on doing this anyways to make sure it is who they say they are or received a green light from others in this community.

So when "Tracy" comes back online to start taking filling and shipping orders and enough time hasn't passed I will share that information and my conclusion here if things aren't already back to normal by that point.

I hope that answers your question.
So are you saying it was always one person?
I was sure it changed for a period of time.
Maybe he's just Chinese bipolar on tren.
Ive always assumed it was a company with sales reps.
 
So are you saying it was always one person?
I was sure it changed for a period of time.
Maybe he's just Chinese bipolar on tren.
Ive always assumed it was a company with sales reps.
The mood swings were on track with the number of issues, or so it seemed to me. For someone selling gear and doing business not to be doing well at times of stress isn't necessarily out of character.

Might be multiple, I have a hard time honestly believing a chinese UGL would hire a team to handle 1 forum. They really probably don't need the niche of meso users enough to pay multiple salaries, these guys really are a legit company with international sales with solid numbers, not just talking AAS either. Can't be sure either way, what matters is the service provided, let's wait for that.
 
Sound like Tracey talked shit to you and u have salty balls
My balls are salty but that is an entirely different topic. I just find it odd that suddenly Tracy is trying to be buddy buddy and get sympathy. This is business. It always has been and it will continue to be. If you want to be butt buddies with a source who gives no fucks about you and just wants your money, that's your business.

I have done business with QSC in the past and it is possible I would again in the future. I'm not under any illusion of "friendship" or camaraderie though. I know Tracy wants my money and doesn't really give two shits about me. That's fine. If the product is what I'm looking for and of a quality that works for me and the price is right then it is a fair business transaction and that's that.
 
No supplier, even the best ones are your friends. Like you stated, at the end 99.9% of their purpose is to make as much money as they can. If they provide amazing service, it is not because they care, it is because the smart ones know the better their service is, the more customers that will bring them at the end of the day.
You hit the nail on the head. For people who have watched the entire progression of QSC you will find that things have changed quite a bit. All the testing, advanced testing, improvements in products, better pricing, etc. is all business decisions to bring in more customers and make more money. Many of these things are a win-win because we get what we want and Tracy gets more money. That's how business works and that's fine and good. Suddenly pretending to be friends and part of the "community" and that whole vibe I certainly cannot get on board with. You would hope that vendors care about their customers health and well-being to some degree, but I wouldn't count on it. Not in this market.

That's why members sticking together and utilizing a strict vetting process and holding vendors accountable is so important. If you find a good vendor on Meso, don't thank that vender, you can thank all the members who put the work in to hold a high standard and keep accountability in market.
 
So are you saying it was always one person?
I was sure it changed for a period of time.
Maybe he's just Chinese bipolar on tren.
Ive always assumed it was a company with sales reps.
I've been in communications with the same person (not Tracy) for many years. They were also affected by this hack or whatever it is. At the time I didn't ask too many questions

FYI the records are gone, how far back? I'm not sure, but again, the sales records are gone, names and addresses, orders, payment history is gone, if people didn't already know... now you know.

Were they able to recover any of the records? I don't know. Are they in the hands of thieves or law enforcement? Я хз.

They've lost all the records before, actually a few times, but this is different.

I'll verify my main contact and I'll verify my other contact. But I'm going to give them some more time to work things out before reaching out.
 
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