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[piggy_nui]

All the major UGLs you see advertising here, Dragon Pharma, Pharmaqo, Ultima, etc send their product in full retail labels and often retail boxes, even International orders shipped from China.

"Stealth", is mainly to fool the Chinese freight companies who aren't interested in shipping contraband for the small UGLs. The irony is legal peptides can (and do) get seized based on "mislabeling" when they come across stealth packaging even if they wouldn't otherwise.

Thought QSC was major. I got domestic with no labels and Chinese with fake.

 

[Ghoul]

Thought QSC was major. I got domestic with no labels and Chinese with fake.

Only here, not in the wider world, QSC was like the chaotic, somewhat dirty wholesale produce market that deals with fewer customers, many of who are smaller resellers buying in bulk, and the somewhat inconsistent quality is acceptable for the really low price, vs Whole Foods selling perfect apples for $3 each in a fancy bag.

$45 vials of test vs $3.50 leaves plenty of margin to bribe whoever you need to to get your packs into a shipping container I guess.

 

[The Answ3r]

Hell yeah, man. Seems like you have a well thought-out approach and have the training/nutrition dialed in. I doubt you'll have to take the dosage up too much to achieve dramatic results based off what you've reported after just a month at "only" 2iu/day. I'm gonna be starting my GH journey soon, and plan on beginning at 2iu/day as well. I hope I have a similar experience/response.

Out of curiosity, have you by chance looked at the GH book, "Bolus," by @Type-IIx? I was thinking about purchasing and reading it before I begin, just to solidify my knowledge a bit so I feel more competent in managing my beginner GH protocol. My main areas of concern are the potential adverse blood glucose and neuropathy effects. I want to be confident in my ability to mitigate these effects.

Yeah, I’ve heard about his book but haven’t bought it yet since I haven’t gone too deep into GH, and for now, the info available on this forum is more than enough. If it ever pops up on Amazon, I might pick it up. If I remember correctly, he mentioned that GH is best taken in the morning before fasted cardio for better fat-burning effects, which makes sense considering the increased lipolysis in a fasted state.

As for potential issues with blood glucose and neuropathy, from what I’ve seen, GH-related nerve issues are mostly due to fluid retention causing nerve compression, especially in areas like the wrists and hands (which explains the carpal tunnel symptoms). This effect is dose-dependent and usually subsides within a few weeks as the body adapts. Some manage it by splitting doses, lowering sodium intake, or using low-dose metformin or GLP-1 agonists if insulin resistance or inflammation is a concern.

Regarding blood glucose, I’m currently on Tirz 7.5mg, so I have some control there, but I’m primarily using it for its other beneficial effects rather than weight management. If glucose control is a concern, some people here use 2.5mg to help with inflammation and metabolic support, but for anything GLP-1-related, it’s best to ask @Ghoul directly.

Last night, instead of sticking with 2.5iu, I went up to 3iu before bed and experienced pretty severe carpal tunnel syndrome, but only in my right hand. Same thing happened when I first started at 2iu, but it resolved in a few days, so I’ll see if this follows the same pattern. I might try splitting my dose to 1.5iu in the morning and 1.5iu in the evening next week to see if that helps minimize the sides.

Sounds like you're getting a potent response from your dosage(s). I love those big reactions to smaller doses.

If you havn't already, get that blood-work regularly bro... if you can, at least once a month. The "labs" support the "feelz."

Thanks, man, appreciate the advice! I actually do bloodwork every 3-4 months, and my next one is coming up in about 2-3 weeks to check IGF-1 levels. Definitely agree that labs help back up how things feel. Always good to have that data to keep everything in check.

 

[piggy_nui]

Only here, not in the wider world, QSC was like the chaotic, somewhat dirty wholesale produce market that deals with fewer customers, many of who are smaller resellers buying in bulk, and the somewhat inconsistent quality is acceptable for the really low price, vs Whole Foods selling perfect apples for $3 each in a fancy bag.

$45 vials of test vs $3.50 leaves plenty of margin to bribe whoever you need to to get your packs into a shipping container I guess.

I was pretty impressed by the quality of their tirz and HGH to be honest. And when we talk about affordability, then it’s clearly the winner. I don’t even buy my food at Whole Paycheck. If I did, maybe I could afford a private celeb doctor who would prescribe me anything I wanted and then some more.

 

[Ghoul]

I was pretty impressed by the quality of their tirz and HGH to be honest. And when we talk about affordability, then it’s clearly the winner. I don’t even buy my food at Whole Paycheck. If I did, maybe I could afford a private celeb doctor who would prescribe me anything I wanted and then some more.

My position was always that while I wasn't interested in their oils, all vendors source peptides from the same handful of labs, and besides the very sharp pricing, QSCs high turnover giving you a better shot at fresh product, along with frequent testing made them a good choice

A lot are hoping SSA steps up to the plate. They'd be wise to look at an old Q price list and sharpen their pencil on some popular peptides to build some loyalty. Then it won't matter as much if Q returns or not.

 

[UncleBuns]

Hell yeah, man. Seems like you have a well thought-out approach and have the training/nutrition dialed in. I doubt you'll have to take the dosage up too much to achieve dramatic results based off what you've reported after just a month at "only" 2iu/day. I'm gonna be starting my GH journey soon, and plan on beginning at 2iu/day as well. I hope I have a similar experience/response.

Out of curiosity, have you by chance looked at the GH book, "Bolus," by @Type-IIx? I was thinking about purchasing and reading it before I begin, just to solidify my knowledge a bit so I feel more competent in managing my beginner GH protocol. My main areas of concern are the potential adverse blood glucose and neuropathy effects. I want to be confident in my ability to mitigate these effects.

The book is excellent. I have it. Instead of combing through forum threads and hunting for information, you can save a lot of time because that book has literally every piece of info you could want and all the references to the research.

 

[piggy_nui]

My position was always that while I wasn't interested in their oils, all vendors source peptides from the same handful of labs, and besides the very sharp pricing, QSCs high turnover giving you a better shot at fresh product, along with frequent testing made them a good choice

A lot are hoping SSA steps up to the plate. They'd be wise to look at an old Q price list and sharpen their pencil on some popular peptides to build some loyalty. Then it won't matter as much if Q returns or not.

Yup, price wise they are still a far cry from the prices QSC was practicing. But again, right now we don’t have many choices. They should use QSC as a case study, copy the successes and avoid the pain points. But as everything in life, easier said than done.

 

[CharlesV]

I do that anyway, thanks. I was just hoping it wouldn’t be labelled inside

they are labeled in a manner that should make sense to the customer…not so much to anyone else.

 

[HUGE McBIGLARGE]

they are labeled in a manner that should make sense to the customer…not so much to anyone else.

Brilliant. Because I’ve got big raws coming my way. Can’t imagine they’ll pass customs as easily as peptides

 

[jung]

@SigmaAudley China Peptide
I have a few orders with you and it seem like some of the tracking has been 15 days since last update... Sometimes shipping takes time but you guys have always been al little quicker.. There are a lot of complaints here about tracking numbers not updating, can you give us some insight as to why,? Remember the people her respect and admire source honesty.. And yes I have contacted my rep with the same question, so let's not deflect to that!!
Peace
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Same here, status since 2/8/25 has been:

"Pre-Shipment -- Shipping Label Created, USPS Awaiting Item"

Been told its stuck in US Customs by Bella.

 

[Dirthand]

Same here, status since 2/8/25 has been:

"Pre-Shipment -- Shipping Label Created, USPS Awaiting Item"

Been told its stuck in US Customs by Bella.

Thanks for the confirmation!!!! I beleive what I have until that batch is just peptides.. Did she explain stuck as in detained seized or what they intend to do about it???

 

[Ghoul]

Same here, status since 2/8/25 has been:

"Pre-Shipment -- Shipping Label Created, USPS Awaiting Item"

Been told its stuck in US Customs by Bella.

I expect many vendors wont be sharing the China -> US tracking anymore for opsec.

 

[aljowa]

Yeah, I’ve heard about his book but haven’t bought it yet since I haven’t gone too deep into GH, and for now, the info available on this forum is more than enough. If it ever pops up on Amazon, I might pick it up. If I remember correctly, he mentioned that GH is best taken in the morning before fasted cardio for better fat-burning effects, which makes sense considering the increased lipolysis in a fasted state.

As for potential issues with blood glucose and neuropathy, from what I’ve seen, GH-related nerve issues are mostly due to fluid retention causing nerve compression, especially in areas like the wrists and hands (which explains the carpal tunnel symptoms). This effect is dose-dependent and usually subsides within a few weeks as the body adapts. Some manage it by splitting doses, lowering sodium intake, or using low-dose metformin or GLP-1 agonists if insulin resistance or inflammation is a concern.

Regarding blood glucose, I’m currently on Tirz 7.5mg, so I have some control there, but I’m primarily using it for its other beneficial effects rather than weight management. If glucose control is a concern, some people here use 2.5mg to help with inflammation and metabolic support, but for anything GLP-1-related, it’s best to ask @Ghoul directly.

Last night, instead of sticking with 2.5iu, I went up to 3iu before bed and experienced pretty severe carpal tunnel syndrome, but only in my right hand. Same thing happened when I first started at 2iu, but it resolved in a few days, so I’ll see if this follows the same pattern. I might try splitting my dose to 1.5iu in the morning and 1.5iu in the evening next week to see if that helps minimize the sides.

Ah, yeah, I thought he mentioned it may end up on Amazon eventually; don't know what that exact timeline is and if I can hold out that long, though. I agree with your statement about the amount of quality information that is scattered throughout these forums. I'd say a solid 60% of my current level of GH knowledge has been derived from this site. Admittedly, I probably have the necessary knowledge to begin a GH protocol that is free from significant user error on my part, and of course the good folks of the Meso community are here as a reliable support resource to troubleshoot any potential issues. Yet, there is a large part of my psyche that keeps me thinking I'm not quite ready yet, and I want to silence that doubt before I begin.

Thanks for the pro tips on the glucose control and neuropathy, I'll keep that in mind - I'm gonna take the low and slow approach with regard to dosage and titration. Good to know not to freak out immediately if I experience initial swelling and neuropathy. And I'm on 18mg/week of tirz, lol, so I'm really hoping that high glucose / insulin resistance isn't a major issue, given the reasonable GH dose I'll be using, the high-dose tirz effect, and my relative leanness (currently ~13-15% body-fat at 5'10" 210lbs).

I wish you the best with the increased dosage, hopefully that neuropathy / water retention is just a transient effect and it subsides once your body adjusts, similar to what you experienced from your previous increase. With regard to your strategy to potentially split the dose if your symptoms don't subside, are you concerned with possible lethargy / sleepiness during the day from the morning dose? I've heard for some it is an issue, and why many prefer to dose their GH pre-bedtime.

 

[aljowa]

The book is excellent. I have it. Instead of combing through forum threads and hunting for information, you can save a lot of time because that book has literally every piece of info you could want and all the references to the research.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and for your endorsement of the book. He seems like a very thorough and knowledgeable guy; I enjoy his podcast and articles.

I'll admit, I was contemplating purchasing the Anabolic Bodybuilding online PED E-course by Paul Barnett and Kurt Havens to gain some more GH knowledge, but having recently read @Type-IIx's comments about Kurt Havens plagiarising his work (to the extent he had to send a cease-and-desist letter), it's caused me to question the credibility of the E-course. I can't respect intellectual dishonesty like that.

 

[bighunanballs]

Successful intl touchdown feb 12 label created, today 22nd touchdown. Bunch or tirz 30 and reta 20. They were labeled with a code and mg's for research purpose only

 

[Rabble]

17 days from order to delivery. Well packed and accurate.

 

[jung]

Thanks for the confirmation!!!! I beleive what I have until that batch is just peptides.. Did she explain stuck as in detained seized or what they intend to do about it???

Message from Bella on 2/17 was:

"My friend, the package is in customs clearance, please wait patiently for a few days."

 

[Dirthand]

Message from Bella on 2/17 was:

"My friend, the package is in customs clearance, please wait patiently for a few days."

I just received a message from her about 5 minutes ago... she said
"It has arrived in the United States, but there has been no update. I have asked the freight center to inquire about the specific situation and will get back to you tomorrow."
We shall see .....

 

[jung]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and for your endorsement of the book. He seems like a very thorough and knowledgeable guy; I enjoy his podcast and articles.

I'll admit, I was contemplating purchasing the Anabolic Bodybuilding online PED E-course by Paul Barnett and Kurt Havens to gain some more GH knowledge, but having recently read @Type-IIx's comments about Kurt Havens plagiarising his work (to the extent he had to send a cease-and-desist letter), it's caused me to question the credibility of the E-course. I can't respect intellectual dishonesty like that.

Isn't Kurt Havens on the last leg for obtaining his PhD in Endocrinology?

I would put my money on the PhD guy first, personally. I think we should be hesitant to take a cease-and-desist letter as damning enough evidence to prove plagiarism and ill-will is at play. I have always seen Kurt as a stand-up man and one of the most scientific and well-researched guys in all of bodybuilding. He is currently co-leading a study to be published on Test E vs Test C.

Again, I think we should be quite hesitant to jump on the bandwagon of assuming he's guilty of something here just because those accusations have been made.

Granted, I have not read Type-II's book nor taken the Anabolic Bodybuilding e-course, so I can't make any personal assessment; I just don't like anyone's name being smeared so easily.

Seems possible to me that between accessible research that basically anyone can gain access to plus the assistance of advanced reasoning/thinking AI models; there very well could be crossover in similar conclusions being made.

 

[jung]

I just received a message from her about 5 minutes ago... she said
"It has arrived in the United States, but there has been no update. I have asked the freight center to inquire about the specific situation and will get back to you tomorrow."
We shall see .....

Thanks for that update, @Dirthand!