So what is your 'why'? Of all the hobbies one might have, what makes you dedicate so much time to training, physique, nutrition, etc.?

This thread is proof it's possible to have 8 pages of content on Meso without troglodytes turning it into a huge silly name-calling argument
Refreshing, no? Though since this thread is pertaining to mainly bodybuilding and exercise it helps greatly as some of the principal instigators are not into bodybuilding and exercise so they don’t post.

The nutrition thread is pretty wholesome also for the same reasons, the people that talk shit aren’t into nutrition either.

Would certainly like to see more inspiring content like this thread around here.
 
This thread is proof it's possible to have 8 pages of content on Meso without troglodytes turning it into a huge silly name-calling argument
If only those people knew the power of not responding to those type of messages! But they live for the pointless keyboard warrior energy. Immaturity. And they’re probably twice my age.
At this point I have a bunch of people blocked/ignored.
 
I started to not get molested…


Nah but for real, I fell when I was young (like 8) and smacked my front teeth and had to go to the hospital where I was put on a bed held down by 2 people on each side, after I would get dreams of being overpowered and I hated it. So I started the gym to never get fucked on, i havent gotten to a point where I feel ok like “ya im strong af we good boy” so the hustle continues. Ive never had anyone test me so who knows if my work is even worthwhile or im just wasting my time to get fucked
 
Lifted during high school and stopped due to life, work etc. Got back to it cause i was fat slob, depressed with myself and after strong mushroom tea i realised i need to change my life. So i started lifting, changed diet, lost more than 25kg of fat and realised that i really enjoy it for health and mental benefits. Its MY time, im happy to wake up cause im excited to go to gym, im happy there cause im lifting and by the end of the day, im happy cause ive been there, makin progress and being consistent. In 3 years that im back in the lifting, i can count days that i missed cause "im too lazy today" on one hand.

It gave me discipline back into my life.
 
I think for me it was honestly generalized boredom with my life. Early 30's, married with small kiddos and I really had nothing that was explicitly for me. Work, pay the mortgage and bills, play taxi for the kids to all their activities, eat, sleep and repeat. I felt stagnation I guess, and if I was going to have an activity why not one that pays hefty dividends in terms of how I look and feel? I am pretty one dimensional now I guess is the drawback. With weightlifting and the gym being pretty much my sole outlet, I am emotionally invested to probably irrational levels.
This is pretty much me.

Also didn't want to turn into a "boring" dad.
 
I read Peter Attia's book Outlive and once I realized how much muscle people lose every year after age 40 if they aren't doing something to keep it - well, I just wanted to build as much muscle as possible to try to get ahead of the game. That, and it just seems like more muscular people age a whole lot better than skinny-fat and average people... if they take care of themselves. I guess that counts as vanity, but honestly seeing people who can barely lift a gallon of milk at the grocery store or who can only shuffle at a snail's pace with a walker scares me also. I'd much prefer to be someone who is fit, strong, and fully independent until I drop dead ... I can't bear the thought of a long, slow decline of ever-worsening health that will eventually end in a nursing home. After watching some friends and family age well and others age extremely poorly, I know which way I'd prefer to go.

In addition to the fear factor keeping me on the straight and narrow, I find that I enjoy pushing myself and seeing how much better I can do at the gym. It's an aspect of my day over which I have near-complete control, and it really sets the tone for the day to come out feeling that sense of accomplishment - of just getting it DONE, even if it wasn't a perfect workout, I did it. Even a crap day at the gym feels better than doing nothing at all.
 
I do it for multiple reasons.

I stayed in the Army long enough to retire. In my final years the Soldiers would see me pushing myself, running farther, running faster, lifting more, going for one more rep. They’d ask me if I did it so I could keep up with the younger guys. I told them nope. It’s so they have to keep up with me. It was partly setting the example. A little part arrogance. And a lot of personal pride. That’s how I approach this life of fitness.

A second reason is I like the process and observing the changes in myself. Each lift, each rep, each set, each change to the diet, supplements, and of course AAS. Adding something, subtracting something, getting labs, taking notes, adjusting, etc. I’m a little OCD. My family and the VA would say a lot OCD. lol. And this process is a perfect place to focus that.

And lastly, there is plenty of heart disease, diabetes, and cancer in my family and my wife’s family. If I can convince just one of them to live a healthier life it’s all worth it. The strict diet, the early mornings, being that family member who seems boring, anal or vain (but misunderstood), planning life around workouts even on vacation, etc. This is not the path that many will choose. But some take notice, ask questions, and try to do better. Plus I’m kicking my family medical history further down the road and holding it at bay.

That’s the why.
 
Coming at this horribly late... My why is mostly just because I think I have a pathological desire to "conquer" things.

Growing up it was personal fears or challenges (heights, wilderness, running, stressful situations) mixed with a chaotic home family life full of people with drug/alcohol addictions and no sense of self improvement and a total victim mentality. I took the Teddy Roosevelt shock therapy approach and became a rock climber, avid solo peakbagger by 14, was a competitive figure skater (very gay sport don't let anyone tell you any different, though I am not gay) became a competitive runner, joined the Marine Corps.

Then it was chasing women, just basically having as much sex as possible. From there it became career, became obsessed with making as much money as humanly possible. Found a wife who was a much better person than I, got me to stop chasing those things and I live a fantastic life now.

The obsessions have continued, just less damaging. Discovered skiing and golf in adulthood and became an every weekend golfer and a disappear for weeks on end skier, doing everything from backcountry to living on a resort.

Got sick of being a hyperobsessed runner and figured might as well build muscle. So now it's bodybuilding!

As for the whole what women care about, I think everyone is right. Women totally like a guy who's fit more than one who's not, but beyond a guy being fit, most couldn't give a shit about how fit beyond that. If you're confident, interesting, and know how to make a woman feel excited and full of life, you can pull whatever you want. Tons of fugly guys out there doing just fine for themselves.
 
On that note I saw an ex the other day. Probably one of the most conventionally attractive women I’ve ever dated, also probably the highest sex drive and the “freakiest” for lack of a better word.

She didn’t say anything at all when I first saw her. The last time we were together I must’ve been 40-50lbs heavier and 25-30% body fat. Presently sub 10. After we’d caught up a bit, I asked her what she thought. Generally, “meh” she said. That ain’t the kind of thing she’s into.

With that said, I’m presently in the gym and there’s what may be a trans woman looking at me like I might be a tasty pork chop. Shame that I’m off the tren right now.
 
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On that note I saw an ex the other day. Probably one of the most conventionally attractive women I’ve ever dated, also probably the highest sex drive and the “freakiest” for lack of a better word.

She didn’t say anything at all when I first saw her. The last time we were together I must’ve been 40-50lbs heavier and 25-30% body fat. Presently sub 10. After we’d caught up a bit, I asked her what she thought. Generally, “meh” she said. That ain’t the kind of thing she’s into.

With that said, I’m presently in the gym and there’s what may be a trans woman looking at me like I might be a tasty pork chop. Shame that I’m off the tren right now.
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I started training as I was very skinny all my life.

Started at 26 years old, I was 6'1 and 120 lbs

And I always wanted to look like those actors of the action movies of the 90s Stallone, Van Damme and the lot of them.

I wanted to achieve that look by 30.

At 26 I looked myself in the mirror at 120lb and thought "if you don't start now that ain't gonna happen".

So I joined a gym and now I am bigger than the ones I wanted to look like and want to get even bigger.
38 years old now, going for 39, still 6'1 tall but much much heavier than the old 120lbs
(I hoover between 210-225 lbs and trying to get to 250+)
 
I started training as I was very skinny all my life.

Started at 26 years old, I was 6'1 and 120 lbs

And I always wanted to look like those actors of the action movies of the 90s Stallone, Van Damme and the lot of them.

I wanted to achieve that look by 30.

At 26 I looked myself in the mirror at 120lb and thought "if you don't start now that ain't gonna happen".

So I joined a gym and now I am bigger than the ones I wanted to look like and want to get even bigger.
38 years old now, going for 39, still 6'1 tall but much much heavier than the old 120lbs
(I hoover between 210-225 lbs and trying to get to 250+)

Similar story but started much younger. My parents say 8 but I don't remember really getting into it until high school.

Gained a decent amount of size natty by the time college started.

Then came gear and you know the rest of the story. Not being skinny was the main driving factor.
 
Similar story but started much younger. My parents say 8 but I don't remember really getting into it until high school.

Gained a decent amount of size natty by the time college started.

Then came gear and you know the rest of the story. Not being skinny was the main driving factor.
I feel you with the non being skinny, I trained 2 years and a bit natty and I gained more than expected (but with fat gains as I really wanted to be bigger even if not very lean)
Then started cycling with pct, time off and cycling again.

Then one day I stayed on and that was many years ago.

Since then I check with an endo once per year (used to be twice but at some point results were always good and I stopped using fancy anabolic stacks) full panel and it comes always good.

Well, except the fact that it shows I am on steroids lol

Nowadays I stay clear of nor19s (even if my mind toys with the idea from time to time but always end up remembering that life is better without nor19s sides and I don't do it)

I am mostly on high test blast and low test HRT year round. Occasionally I have some anadrol at 50mg per day OR anavar again at 50mg per day in the mix.

If I take an oral with test I take Nac at 1600mg per day and keeps my liver enzymes in range.

I tried some Primo in past but as I don't aromatase easy it usually annihilates my oestrogen in 5 weeks (even if test is high)

But I don't need an AI even at 1g per week of test, every few weeks if I am at 1g blasting test I pop a 25mg of aromasin if nipples get puffy and I am good for few weeks

It seems like my body doesn't like to produce estrogens but I am happy that way as it reduce massively my AI usage, worst I did was 25mg once a week and after 3 weeks I had to stop it for a month as my e2 were low

Sorry for the essay!
 

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