Am I too old?

[fw190jd]

Greetings everyone I am truly enjoying this form I have learned more in one week than I have in 6 months listening to some knuckleheads. So I am grateful thank you. So I just come to realize that most of this crap I'm using to get an optimal shape is just that crap and a waste of money. I went through the supplement phase, I'm about halfway through the peptide phase, and now I'm wondering if I should consider some user-friendly newbie AAS ?

To add some context I am a 63 year old male I weigh 195 lb in pretty good shape no issues with any of my blood work just some low testosterone and I'm on testosterone cypionate for that. I do some supplements and fooling around with some peptides that have more or less going into the useless column.
Eating is clean never seems like I have a down pat 100% BF is 23 or 24.
My goals are pretty straightforward I'd like to put on some lean body mass get my BF down to 18% and increase some volume and muscle mass nothing crazy. This is where I thought anavar might be a good choice or maybe I shouldn't even consider doing any steroids I'd love to hear your thoughts are. Thank you in advance

 

[fw190jd]

About 6 mo ago

 

[BigDadd7]

You'll most likely be fine upping your dose. At your age, it would be wise to start blood work.

 

[fw190jd]

Thank you big daddy, I just did my blood work looks pretty clean no real issues something specific I should look out for? I was doing a little bit more reading about anavar and it says puts on weight I'm trying to lose weight so maybe that's not the right one

 

[accidentaljedi173]

I would just stick with test. Maybe run it like 300mg for a little bit. No need to blast a bunch of compounds. Refining your diet will yield the highest results.

 

[fw190jd]

Well that's always been one of my problem is always trying too hard, LOL

 

[AlexDavis43]

Greetings everyone I am truly enjoying this form I have learned more in one week than I have in 6 months listening to some knuckleheads. So I am grateful thank you. So I just come to realize that most of this crap I'm using to get an optimal shape is just that crap and a waste of money. I went through the supplement phase, I'm about halfway through the peptide phase, and now I'm wondering if I should consider some user-friendly newbie AAS ?

To add some context I am a 63 year old male I weigh 195 lb in pretty good shape no issues with any of my blood work just some low testosterone and I'm on testosterone cypionate for that. I do some supplements and fooling around with some peptides that have more or less going into the useless column.
Eating is clean never seems like I have a down pat 100% BF is 23 or 24.
My goals are pretty straightforward I'd like to put on some lean body mass get my BF down to 18% and increase some volume and muscle mass nothing crazy. This is where I thought anavar might be a good choice or maybe I shouldn't even consider doing any steroids I'd love to hear your thoughts are. Thank you in advance

Assuming you have a good training program and are putting in the work at the gym. And you have TRT on board. I'd focus more efforts on diet & cardio to get body fat down before trying to pack on muscle. Or ofc both at the same time but prioritize fat loss.

 

[Slowww]

I think almost everything you need is going to be based on diet and cardio habits.

Only a small amount of testosterone is needed.

Starting to cut 200 calories from current diet, and starting with 25 minutes cardio that is low intensity and easy on joints 6 days a week + 10k steps.

Really no need for orals if you’re at the beginning of a diet as a competitor and really just necessary at end for peak. no need really any time if you’re doing it for image or recreationally.

 

[BamaCrazy]

All you need are the three T’s. Test, Tirz and training. Those will get you to where you want to go. Get your diet dialed in and in 9-12 months you will be posting some much improved photos.

 

[fw190jd]

Thank you all for the support and comments, I'm doing the 3 T's , I was at 1600 calories a day, 10K steps , 200 grams protien, 45 fat and 150 carbs and stuck at 199.
I get confused, trainers I have worked with said I'm not eating enough calories 1600.. When I did keto at 1200 calories I lost weight and muscle.

 

[Slowww]

Thank you all for the support and comments, I'm doing the 3 T's , I was at 1600 calories a day, 10K steps , 200 grams protien, 45 fat and 150 carbs and stuck at 199.
I get confused, trainers I have worked with said I'm not eating enough calories 1600.. When I did keto at 1200 calories I lost weight and muscle.

These steps are very basic for health. Need to do cardio. Missing a very important variable. Also need carbs to protect muscle from catabolism.

 

[Ryu82]

All you need are the three T’s. Test, Tirz and training.

At 60+ years of age a little GH on top of the above will do wonders as well.

It would be great if you could throw up your current training split and diet.
Also be great to see your blood work including a thyroid panel.

I will say from the photos, I would estimate your BF more into the 30's to be honest. Have you had it tested?

 

[Vanargandar]

@fw190jd

- 250mg Test p/w (125mg Mon/Thurs, PM, before bed)
- 2iu HGH e/d (PM, before bed)
- 2mg Retatrutide or 2.5mg Tirzepatide p/w (Thurs, PM, before bed, adjust dose upward as needed for weight loss goals every 4 weeks)
- 5mg Tadalafil e/d (AM)

There you go. You're welcome.

 

[fw190jd]

Thank you,thank you

Here yhe skinny, no pun intended, coming up on 3mo for test cyn 300mg once per week in the am. Gained 10 pounds in 2 weeks.
coming up on 4 weeks
20 mg =CJC 295/ Ipamorlin blend , 5 day cycle 2 off PM
20 mg = BPC 157/ TB500/GHK-CU/KVP, 5 day cycle 2 off AM
20mg = Semorolin 5 day cycle 2 off PM
5mg =Trizepatide on week 6 just coming off 4 weeks at 2.5 lost 5 pounds.

Work out
Rest Sunday and Monday
Tuesday = legs
Leg press 4x 8-12 ,360
Hack Squats 4x 8-12 ,180
Leg hack Curls 4x12, 25 each leg
Leg extentions 4× 8-12, 45
Seated Calf raises 4x 8-12, 180
Machine ab Crunches 4x 20 ,160
Wednesday = Chest
Cable pulls 4x20, 30
Seated chest Flys 4x12 , 120
Dumbell presses 4x12 , 55, 60, 65
Seated incline 4x 12, 150, 180
Tricep
V bar 4x12 120
Seated extentions 4x12,90
Cable kickbacks 4x20, 25
Thursday = Back ,Biceps
Lat Pull Downs 4x 12 160,180
Seated rows 4x 12 , 120
Pull up Assisted 50, 4x 20
Olympic bar Curls 3x 12 , 65
Concentrated Curls 4x12 25,30
Seated extended machine Crunches 4x 20,150
Friday
Battle ropes
Core
Light legs
Seated Leg extentions 4x12 130
Lay hamstring Curls 4x12 90
Mule kickback 4x 15 ,90
Saturday
Repeat chest, Triceps, biceps and back
Will post food

No cardio, I did do it 25 minutes on workout days, I I was watching this YouTube videos from RP and all that dude who debunks weightlifting practices and weightlifters and bodybuilders he said don't do cardio so I stopped doing it. Eating is definitely off now because of the Trizepatide

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Thank you,thank you

Here yhe skinny, no pun intended, coming up on 3mo for test cyn 300mg once per week in the am. Gained 10 pounds in 2 weeks.
coming up on 4 weeks
20 mg =CJC 295/ Ipamorlin blend , 5 day cycle 2 off PM
20 mg = BPC 157/ TB500/GHK-CU/KVP, 5 day cycle 2 off AM
20mg = Semorolin 5 day cycle 2 off PM
5mg =Trizepatide on week 6 just coming off 4 weeks at 2.5 lost 5 pounds.

Work out
Rest Sunday and Monday
Tuesday = legs
Leg press 4x 8-12 ,360
Hack Squats 4x 8-12 ,180
Leg hack Curls 4x12, 25 each leg
Leg extentions 4× 8-12, 45
Seated Calf raises 4x 8-12, 180
Machine ab Crunches 4x 20 ,160
Wednesday = Chest
Cable pulls 4x20, 30
Seated chest Flys 4x12 , 120
Dumbell presses 4x12 , 55, 60, 65
Seated incline 4x 12, 150, 180
Tricep
V bar 4x12 120
Seated extentions 4x12,90
Cable kickbacks 4x20, 25
Thursday = Back ,Biceps
Lat Pull Downs 4x 12 160,180
Seated rows 4x 12 , 120
Pull up Assisted 50, 4x 20
Olympic bar Curls 3x 12 , 65
Concentrated Curls 4x12 25,30
Seated extended machine Crunches 4x 20,150
Friday
Battle ropes
Core
Light legs
Seated Leg extentions 4x12 130
Lay hamstring Curls 4x12 90
Mule kickback 4x 15 ,90
Saturday
Repeat chest, Triceps, biceps and back
Will post food

Personally, I would replace the sectretegogues with gh

 

[fw190jd]

Yeah I just started these things figured I'd give it a try. Any particular flavors of GH you would recommend ? Every time I try to find something there's so much crap up here on the internet I have no idea what the real deal is in a lot of situations so any guidance would truly be appreciated
Somatrapin ?

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Yeah I just started these things figured I'd give it a try. Any particular flavors of GH you would recommend ? Every time I try to find something there's so much crap up here on the internet I have no idea what the real deal is in a lot of situations so any guidance would truly be appreciated
Somatrapin ?

I'm not going to recommend a source or anything. Just use the search bar on here and research for awhile. Tons of good info on gh here.

 

[fw190jd]

Not vendor, that's against the rules. Name of GH.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Not vendor, that's against the rules. Name of GH.

Either I don't understand what your asking or you don't know what to ask. Like I said do some research to know what your getting into.

 

[hexagonal]

Not vendor, that's against the rules. Name of GH.

Most people here are doing generic from their preferred UGL. There's not really brands for the stuff we're buying, beyond the vendor. There are some vendors that also supply other vendors, but we'd be treading into source vendor talk if we named any names there.


For the stuff that has brands, we'd then be talking about the pharma stuff, and that's a whole different ballpark when it comes to expense.