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Any idea how Jano differentiates between the two types? Is TB500 (889 DA) the frag, and TB500 (TB4) the full Thymosin non-truncated version?
 
Just be careful, BPC but mainly TB500 can boost TGFβ which also boosts production in red blood cell count and can lead to an increased hematocrit. Doesn't really happen that often but there are reports of people experiencing it on TB500.

Not saying it will be the case but just something to keep in mind.
This is great info, not exactly proven on my end but the correlation makes sense with it being really the only change during blood work sometimes and my PCP who is a juice head didn’t have an answer either.
 
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I run the gell outta tb and bpc... takes away all the old man aches and pains from lifting. I run 2mg each per day, i have tried the full sequence and the frag and just stick to full sequence. I ran the stack all last year and took a couple months off to reset and could deffo feel a difference.
Also started lobster gh this week. Still have a shitload of qsc gh but wanted to do this cycle with dudes shit. Last year my igf-1 levels didn't respond well to 10-12iu a day so we gonna see this year any different. So far every vial had a vacuum
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So is the frag different and more effective than the full TB4 protein? It’s seems confusing
Personally i use the TB4 with BPC for general maintenance but if i have a specific injury i want to treat ill use the frag directly at injury point. TB4 has the entire amino chain so it is good for many things. The TB500 has has just specific fragments of the chain which are the ones that deal with the tissue healing, at least that’s the way i understand it
 
Fucking hella confusing, I have to keep sticky notes to remind me.

But the frag needs more frequent injecting I beleive? So for whatever the fuck it’s worth my bro science gets whichever it can get and just injects 3-5mgs ED when I’m using it.
The frag is typically bigger doses less frequently as it has longer half life than straight TB4
 
The frag is typically bigger doses less frequently as it has longer half life than straight TB4
At this point I’ve given up on trying to figure it out so I just dose it all the same and say fuck it. TB,BPC, GHK-CU,HGH fucking Wolverine. Throw some anavar in there Wolverine 2.0.

Plus with the 4 peps my hair is thicker and skin looks phenomenal.

So tomato tomatoe
 
Personally i use the TB4 with BPC for general maintenance but if i have a specific injury i want to treat ill use the frag directly at injury point. TB4 has the entire amino chain so it is good for many things. The TB500 has has just specific fragments of the chain which are the ones that deal with the tissue healing, at least that’s the way i understand it

They have the same amino acid chain according to the Perplexity link Ateam posted. Frag lacks the aldehyde group, which increases it's stability. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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so I just basically agree with:

At this point I’ve given up on trying to figure it out so I just dose it all the same and say fuck it. TB,BPC, GHK-CU,HGH fucking Wolverine. Throw some anavar in there Wolverine 2.0.

Plus with the 4 peps my hair is thicker and skin looks phenomenal.

So tomato tomatoe
 
Really appreciate you mentioning that - I actually overlooked it, and it’s definitely something to keep in mind. Since EQ is a staple in all my cycles, it makes monitoring hematocrit even more important. Next cycle kicks off in about two weeks, so I’ll be extra careful with bloodwork. Thanks again for the heads-up, seriously helpful.

This is great info, not exactly proven on my end but the correlation makes sense with it being really the only change during blood work sometimes and my PCP who is a juice head didn’t have an answer either.

The growth factor tgf ß tends to be elevated 15-20 days after last injection. It's also the one which promotes the creation of new blood vessels. I mean its main job is to push up the collagen synthesis for new tissue such as vessels.

Some articles suggest that its also the same pathway in which kidneys would usually get damaged through diabetis although research is very thin there. All they know its most likely caused through the tgf ß pathway which is why TB is also seen as cancer-progressing assistant as it uses the same pathway.
At the same time other studies suggest TB can help with diabetis induced nerve damage so yeah. Science doesn't seem 100% clear on it either.

Research is very thinn on this so i would take with a grain of salt, they are also talking about insanely high tgf ß values, not sure where it was posted but someone here said its like the equivalent of 20-25mg of TB a day.
 
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