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maplesteroids1004

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Hey fellas, not trying to sound paranoid here, but I hit up a raw supplier that seems to be based in China (email: avaqin1@gmail.com). Just wondering—how do you guys verify if these so-called ‘factories’ are legit? Like, when you send money, are they actually shipping or just ghosting people?

I know established spots like PPL have websites and a rep behind them, but these guys don’t even have an website—just a massive product list. Anyone ever dealt with them or heard anything? Any insights or green lights would be much appreciated. Stay safe, boys.
 
Hey fellas, not trying to sound paranoid here, but I hit up a raw supplier that seems to be based in China (email: avaqin1@gmail.com). Just wondering—how do you guys verify if these so-called ‘factories’ are legit? Like, when you send money, are they actually shipping or just ghosting people?

I know established spots like PPL have websites and a rep behind them, but these guys don’t even have an website—just a massive product list. Anyone ever dealt with them or heard anything? Any insights or green lights would be much appreciated. Stay safe, boys.
i typically never order from a source unless it provides lab testing and has many great reviews from reputable people.

if you haven't heard much about them i wouldn't wana risk it, there's plenty of raw providers on meso with many reviews.
 
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Appreciate the advice, man. I've been looking for certain raws (DECA, PRIMO, NPP), and it seems like a lot of suppliers out of China are running into shortages on the same materials. That’s what led me to reach out to a few random sources, but honestly, it feels sketch as hell to just wire a big chunk of money to someone I don’t really know. Anyone else noticing these supply issues, or is this just bad luck on my end?
 
Appreciate the advice, man. I've been looking for certain raws (DECA, PRIMO, NPP), and it seems like a lot of suppliers out of China are running into shortages on the same materials. That’s what led me to reach out to a few random sources, but honestly, it feels sketch as hell to just wire a big chunk of money to someone I don’t really know. Anyone else noticing these supply issues, or is this just bad luck on my end?
everyone's sort of having the same issue. some people speculate chinas cracking down on any drug manufacturing warehouse to fight the opioid epidemic and i believe steroids just got caught in the crossfire. il let you know if i come across a source with the raws ur looking for
 
I didn't know china was fighting opioid epidemic, I guess its because of the Trump putting pressure on them for fent? Thanks alot brother, please give me a heads-up if you come across any reliable source.
 
i typically never order from a source unless it provides lab testing and has many great reviews from reputable people.

if you haven't heard much about them i wouldn't wana risk it, there's plenty of raw providers on meso with many reviews.
Hello mate, could you please share? looking for a new supplier

Thanks
 
my china supply that i have used for 13 years has suddenly ghosted me now for the past 3 weeks, so yeah thats led me here looking for a new raw supply also
 
that i have used for 13 years has suddenly ghosted me now for the past 3 weeks, so yeah thats led me here looking for a ne
Even PPL guys seems very unreliable, because their shipping is so slow, it takes them forever to ship stuff. And not great email communication. I guess these raw suppliers doesn't care about customer service becuase they know they got the control of the raw source in the market.
 
Hey fellas, not trying to sound paranoid here, but I hit up a raw supplier that seems to be based in China (email: avaqin1@gmail.com). Just wondering—how do you guys verify if these so-called ‘factories’ are legit? Like, when you send money, are they actually shipping or just ghosting people?

I know established spots like PPL have websites and a rep behind them, but these guys don’t even have an website—just a massive product list. Anyone ever dealt with them or heard anything? Any insights or green lights would be much appreciated. Stay safe, boys.
Hey brother I just found them, they just popped up overnight on a forum I frequent claiming to have any and all raws in stock.

Did you ever order from them?
 
This is reminiscent of how we did it a decade ago, find a random vendor from China and gamble on a test order then hope for the best.

The good thing now is you can send it to jano for testing. You just hope they send you stuff in the first place though. Good luck and let the board know on how it goes maybe you stumbled on another reliable reshipper.
 
This is reminiscent of how we did it a decade ago, find a random vendor from China and gamble on a test order then hope for the best.

The good thing now is you can send it to jano for testing. You just hope they send you stuff in the first place though. Good luck and let the board know on how it goes maybe you stumbled on another reliable reshipper.
I hope so I may just have to take them up on there offer. It's just bizzare to offer QSC like prices and quantities and have pretty much everything under the sun listed with the current state of everything. Other vendors having only the minimum raws if any on the same forums also.
 
I hope so I may just have to take them up on there offer. It's just bizzare to offer QSC like prices and quantities and have pretty much everything under the sun listed with the current state of everything. Other vendors having only the minimum raws if any on the same forums also.
I would not trust that if I were you. Plenty of red flags.
 
I hope so I may just have to take them up on there offer. It's just bizzare to offer QSC like prices and quantities and have pretty much everything under the sun listed with the current state of everything. Other vendors having only the minimum raws if any on the same forums also.
If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is. This is 100% without a doubt a scam. Just wait until after summer. The police investigation in China is supposed to wrap up in the next month or two and then factories might get comfortable producing again
 
If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is. This is 100% without a doubt a scam. Just wait until after summer. The police investigation in China is supposed to wrap up in the next month or two and then factories might get comfortable producing again
yeah I passed them up, after exstensive communications they dont seem to be intentional scammers or they are good scammers lol. Either way if it smells like shit, looks like shit, I dont need to take a bite to call it.

I have plenty of what I need to get through this drought and some ppl I follow on social media are claiming there suppliers just restocked their raws so I hope your right brother and its just a matter of time b4 we all get a piece of the pie again.
 
I can’t share my credentials for obvious reasons but I’ve been in the business for 22 years.

China is done.

They have effectively completely stopped production.

Most people don’t understand how the raw manufacture works in China but the places that can actually produce raws are very few. Less than 6-7 in total. And what they used to do is rotate the production of certain stuff. For example a factory would make test another deca and tren etc.

For whatever reason Chinese authorities outlawed everything including the precursors. And are raiding them constantly. They are even raiding printers that print boxes.

So yes China is done
 

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