Hair Loss

[Ryobi]

My urologist was happy to write me propecia finasteride when I asked for oral minoxidal he balked he didn’t know what it was and wouldn’t write it.

 

[Ghoul]

My urologist was happy to write me propecia finasteride when I asked for oral minoxidal he balked he didn’t know what it was and wouldn’t write it.

Yeah it's crazy, 5 mins to get a telemedicine prescription for it for hair loss (in the us anyway). I hear it's really hard to get from docs in the EU.

 

[Ryobi]

Yeah it's crazy, 5 mins to get a telemedicine prescription for it for hair loss (in the us anyway). I hear it's really hard to get from docs in the EU.

I’m gonna try that out is it better with Costco or GoodRx I also see that company Ro is offering 1 month supply for $15 costs really with telemedicine appointment I was using them before for cialis they are outrageously priced.

 

[Ghoul]

I’m gonna try that out is it better with Costco or GoodRx I also see that company Ro is offering 1 month supply for $15 costs really with telemedicine appointment I was using them before for cialis they are outrageously priced.

If you have insurance, unlike Cialis, they don't care what oral Minox is prescribed for, so a telemedicine prescription for 3 months worth will be whatever the lowest deductible is ($10 for most people).

Even if you have to pay cash, with goodRx 180 2.5mg tabs is $20.

(always ask for 5mg day "I read 5mg a day is best for hair regrowth". You can always just take 2.5, because there aren't 5mg tabs in the US anyway, they'll double up the 2.5mg, hence 180 x 2.5mg for 90 day prescrip.)

 

[Ryobi]

If you have insurance, unlike Cialis, they don't care what oral Minox is prescribed for, so a telemedicine prescription for 3 months worth will be whatever the lowest deductible is ($10 for most people).

Even if yo i have to pay cash, with goodRx 180 2.5mg tabs is $20.

(always ask for 5mg day "I read 5mg a day is best for hair regrowth". You can always just take 2.5, because there aren't 5mg tabs in the US anyway, they'll double up the 2.5mg, hence 180 x 2.5mg for 90 day prescrip.)

You are a gentleman and a scholar wise beyond your years.

 

[Proud Pangolin]

Have you heard about jenny RU58841?,
im in a hairloss Discord,
a bunch of groupbuys have already been made with hrt, and even now, people order it from there.guys here says the RU is good I've never ordered anything from her, but I've already spoken to her about the RU and the prices seem good to me, and if the order is seize by customs, says she'll send it back.
I think she also arranges many other things, because she works for a laboratory, so she must arrange Pyri. I'll see if they can find me the website, anyway I have her WhatsApp contact.
I m USING RU , i use ACTIFOLIC pyri powder, for 6 months, but didn´t do much about regrowth ..so i change to RU is most cheaper and i think its the same as pyri, helps to maintain hair , or slow the hair loss

for now im buying my RU powder from here Best RU58841 Prices with Purity Guaranteed | RUdirect

the can send inside europe, and i think they have pyri

I know this post is old, but do you have a somewhat trustworthy Pyrilutamide source?

 

[Imderick]

I know this post is old, but do you have a somewhat trustworthy Pyrilutamide source?

Sure thing.
Bought my Pyr from the original source/producer itself which sells it as a spray on koshinemall.com. That is the cosmetic website of the research company that researched the peptide.
They that they offer a 15% discount on the 26th of every month.
I must say though, the research company's latest results on the product were dissappointing.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Sure thing.
Bought my Pyr from the original source/producer itself which sells it as a spray on koshinemall.com. That is the cosmetic website of the research company that researched the peptide.
They that they offer a 15% discount on the 26th of every month.
I must say though, the research company's latest results on the product were dissappointing.

That was a very weird reply. AI?

but what results are you talking about?

 

[Imderick]

That was a very weird reply. AI?

but what results are you talking about?

Hehe, not AI, just me explaining it in a weird way, I guess.

Google a bit, and you'll find it. The initial trial showed great results, but in the latest trial (end of 2024, I believe), there was no significant difference compared to the placebo group. Yet, I've read people sharing their experiences with Pyr...some report great results, and others none.

So I don't know whether it works or not. If it does, could it be person-dependent, like we see with Minoxidil, where some people don't have (enough of) the enzyme needed, which leads to it being more effective for some than other?

I bought the KX826 anyway to try it out—on week 3 or so now. Nothing to report yet though.

 

[Orc419]

Have a question for people on this thread. Little background, I started to notice hair loss about 8 months ago on a trt dose of test. Hopped on minox almost immediately and had the dread shed as you would expect. But fast forward to now I still have hair loss in the shower, even though it's probably less than 10 hairs it still worries me a lot.

I'm now on minox x2 a day, 1mg dutasteride, RU, and have finasteride topical on the way (it's been a bitch to get). Should I still expect some hair loss or should it stop eventually?

 

[Ghoul]

Have a question for people on this thread. Little background, I started to notice hair loss about 8 months ago on a trt dose of test. Hopped on minox almost immediately and had the dread shed as you would expect. But fast forward to now I still have hair loss in the shower, even though it's probably less than 10 hairs it still worries me a lot.

I'm now on minox x2 a day, 1mg dutasteride, RU, and have finasteride topical on the way (it's been a bitch to get). Should I still expect some hair loss or should it stop eventually?

Shed is not loss. Some amount of shed is a normal part of the hair cycle (grow-rest-drop-grow). Initiating minox and 5-AR inhibitors resets that cycle and you get that initial shed before those hairs grow back better than they had been.

This is loss. Increasingly thin, wispy hairs as irreplaceable stem cells in the follicles are murdered by DHT:



You're probably hypersensitive to seeing hairs, understandably, but up to 100 seen in the shower daily is not considered abnormal,

You're doing everything possible, and the dutasteride/minox combo is about 90% of what can be done to slow and stop further loss.

Topical dutasteride would do more good than fin, since the conversion of DHT in the scalp is only inhibited by Dutasteride. PCT24 can get it.

I suggest taking pics every month to monitor the situation, since dysmorphia can fool you into thinking it's getting worse when it may not be.

One other thing you can consider. Get your Thyroid levels checked. Hypothyroidism can cause excessive shedding, and is easily fixed.

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

Hehe, not AI, just me explaining it in a weird way, I guess.

Google a bit, and you'll find it. The initial trial showed great results, but in the latest trial (end of 2024, I believe), there was no significant difference compared to the placebo group. Yet, I've read people sharing their experiences with Pyr...some report great results, and others none.

So I don't know whether it works or not. If it does, could it be person-dependent, like we see with Minoxidil, where some people don't have (enough of) the enzyme needed, which leads to it being more effective for some than other?

I bought the KX826 anyway to try it out—on week 3 or so now. Nothing to report yet though.

Kintor kx286/pyrilutamide used before/after pics that was from HT clinics results.
shady marketing.

also CosmeRNA another "cure" that was being hyped a lot in 2023 because they claim to use RNA technology , used photoshopped photos.
expensive and little results .

Hairloss cure Just more 5 years guys

 

[Orc419]

Shed is not loss. Some amount of shed is a normal part of the hair cycle (grow-rest-drop-grow). Initiating minox and 5-AR inhibitors resets that cycle and you get that initial shed before those hairs grow back better than they had been.

This is loss. Increasingly thin, wispy hairs as irreplaceable stem cells in the follicles are murdered by DHT:

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You're probably hypersensitive to seeing hairs, understandably, but up to 100 seen in the shower daily is not considered abnormal,

You're doing everything possible, and the dutasteride/minox combo is about 90% of what can be done to slow and stop further loss.

Topical dutasteride would do more good than fin, since the conversion of DHT in the scalp is only inhibited by Dutasteride. PCT24 can get it.

I suggest taking pics every month to monitor the situation, since dysmorphia can fool you into thinking it's getting worse when it may not be.

One other thing you can consider. Get your Thyroid levels checked. Hypothyroidism can cause excessive shedding, and is easily fixed.

I appreciate the reply. It does make me feel a bit better. I already had thin hair before the shedding began, this has been pointed out before when getting my hair cut. So that had me worried that the hair loss would begin quicker than it would with someone with thick hair. I may lose it eventually but wanted to delay it as much as possible.

I am definitely looking out for the shed hair in the shower, so you're right about me being hyperventilate. This has had a negative impact on me so definitely trying not to get in my head about it.

I will look in to topical dutasteride, I didn't know that would be a better choice. I'll try it after I run out of the fin.

Thanks for the advice man.

 

[Ricky93]

Has anyone tried topical finasteride? I have some 5 mg pills that I'm trying to avoid just because it made me feel less confident and motivated last time I took them.
Unlike dutasteride, topical finasteride can go systemic but if I dissolve some and add to my shampoo it probably won't have time for that and just stay on the scalp right?

 

[Ghoul]

Has anyone tried topical finasteride? I have some 5 mg pills that I'm trying to avoid just because it made me feel less confident and motivated last time I took them.

Unlike dutasteride, topical finasteride can go systemic but if I dissolve some and add to my shampoo it probably won't have time for that and just stay on the scalp right?

Go with topical Dutasteride. Dutasteride shuts down 5-AR type one and two DHT conversion. Type one takes place inside hair follicles. Fin only inhibits type two.

You can't just use Dut or Fin topically without an absorbtion enhancer.

PCT24 has it on request.

 

[The Answ3r]

Read through the whole thread - feel for all the brothers out there battling hair loss. I’ve been lucky so far, no issues myself, but I’m starting a new cycle next week that includes Masteron (just 300mg/week).

Taking no chances though - based on everything I’ve read, I’ll be adding 2.5mg of oral minoxidil daily as a preventative move. I’m leaving finasteride out for now, but we’ll see how it goes. Hopefully the minoxidil keeps things solid up top - trying to stay lean and keep the hairline alive!

 

[drrrika]

minoxidil

 

[just some dude]

thanks a lot. good post

 

[repitout]

Some of you bros dont care about hair loss, but it can be a big concern for most of us other bros. I'm 35 and I still have a thick and full head of hair. I am not one of those guys who would look good bald or balding. In some of my cycles years ago, I noticed large volumes of hair falling out in the shower during a cycle. This brought me to the point where I would look in the mirror and say, "What good is there in having huge muscles if my hair looks like crap?" So my search began to find the best possible hair solution, which involves stopping hair loss and even reversing it!

Let me just show you the final results (IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE), and I will comment on each:

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1. AVODART® (Dutasteride) - Dutasteride was developed to help shrink the prostate and was found to have an even more profound effect on regrowing hair than Finasteride! Not only that, it can take care of more of your DHT, it starts working faster, and stays in your system for much longer. 1 to 5 mg ED is all you need, and it also keeps that prostate down during your cycles. In my book, this is a win/win situation.
2. PROPECIA® (Finasteride) - Next to Viagra, this drug may have had one of the all time record advertising budgets. Finasteride is a hair loss prevention / regrowth drug. Recommended dose is 1 mg ED and after 6 to 12 months the user may achieve positive results. The reason I write "big 4" in the title of this thread is that it may not be necessary to use both Dutasteride and Finasteride, although there are no known drug interactions. I say roll with Dutasteride if you can and if not then use Finasteride.
3. ROGAINE® (Minoxidil) - Cheap to buy generic at target in three month supply, Minoxidil blocks DHT on the scalp. After handling DHT within the body via Dutasteride or Finasteride, you can also stop the damage of DHT on the scalp. Use twice a day. I use it after my morning shower and after my workout shower.
4. NIOXIN® (Cleanser, Conditioner, and Treatment) - Use these Nioxin products as your daily shampoo and conditioner. They work on the scalp to ensure that your skin is healthy. Shampoo removes impurities that clog follicles, including DHT. The conditioner keeps the scalp moisturized. The treatment adds botanicals and nutrients to the scalp skin.
5. NIZORAL® (A-D Shampoo) - Ketoconazole, the main ingredient in Nizoral, acts as a relatively mild anti-androgen. (Androgen binds to hair follicles and over time shrinks them down, causing thinner and thinner hair.) Use this shampoo once a week for help with DHT.

This hair regiment is not difficult to maintain, and can provide great results. I went from losing my hair to growing it back! It takes a few months to start working, so for the first 6 months have patience. Passing the 1 to 2 year markers using the "Big 4" regiment should yield significant hair gains, or at the very least put an end to your loss.

This article assumes appropriate nutrition, hydration, and sleep.

Peace,

-bj

dont use gear if you are concerned about hairloss...using dutasteride and hormones is like starting a bonfire and chucking a bucket of water over it.

 

[Ghoul]

dont use gear if you are concerned about hairloss...using dutasteride and hormones is like starting a bonfire and chucking a bucket of water over it.

Since most men are doomed to suffer male pattern balding anyway, I'd argue gear users, already managing multiple hormones, regular blood tests, etc, are actually in a better position to slow or prevent hair loss than the majority of non-AAS users who do nothing.