IGF1 got lower on cjc dac

[Mifcom89]

I ordered cjc dac from qsc in 2024 mid december, it came as red caps. Ive been using it twice weekly for some time, did a blood test and my igf1 came lower by 20%. Does anyone know why this could be? Im concerned its not cjc dac. Im on a cut right know, but not a crazy one(+150g protein, 2000 calories)

 

[Ateam2023]

I ordered cjc dac from qsc in 2024 mid december, it came as red caps. Ive been using it twice weekly for some time, did a blood test and my igf1 came lower by 20%. Does anyone know why this could be? Im concerned its not cjc dac. Im on a cut right know, but not a crazy one(+150g protein, 2000 calories)

Send it to jANO ,

 

[AlexDavis43]

I ordered cjc dac from qsc in 2024 mid december, it came as red caps. Ive been using it twice weekly for some time, did a blood test and my igf1 came lower by 20%. Does anyone know why this could be? Im concerned its not cjc dac. Im on a cut right know, but not a crazy one(+150g protein, 2000 calories)

What dose were you running? and what were your IGF1 levels before and during

Also this:

Send it to jANO ,

 

[Mifcom89]

What dose were you running? and what were your IGF1 levels before and during

Before: 340
Now: 280

This is how it looks:


According to qsc pricelist it could be also hgh 15iu as both have red caps

I was using 2mg per week (2x1mg/week)

 

[Ateam2023]

Before: 340
Now: 280

This is how it looks:
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According to qsc pricelist it could be also hgh 15iu as both have red caps

I was using 2mg per week (2x1mg/week)

i have "15 iu red cap" hgh from qsc bought around the same time , Nov/dec promo 2024 ,, They tested @17 iu per vial,,

 

[Mifcom89]

i have "15 iu red cap" hgh from qsc bought around the same time , Nov/dec promo 2024 ,, They tested @17 iu per vial,,

Testing it isnt really worth it as it will cost more than the product itself

Should I just assume its hgh and inject in the morning for fat loss?

It seems weird, I dont know if qsc mixed it up.

I was injecting cjc 2x1mg weekly for 6 weeks, then I forgot injecting for one week, after that continued injecting 2x1mg for 3-4 weeks.

 

[Ateam2023]

Testing it isnt really worth it as it will cost more than the product itself

Should I just assume its hgh and inject in the morning for fat loss?

It seems weird, I dont know if qsc mixed it up.

I was injecting cjc 2x1mg weekly for 6 weeks, then I forgot injecting for one week, after that continued injecting 2x1mg for 3-4 weeks.

How many kits do you plan running? Idk this is a personal call ,

 

[eery]

Cutting hard will cause lower endogenous igf1 levels, but i dont know how that works with cjc.

 

[songsofpyramids]

You been checked for pituitary or thyroid issues? Wouldn’t be shocked if DAC was revealing a previously unknown condition like hypothyroidism, which can blunt igf1. Do you have any other bloodwork? I’ve seen reports of DAC exploding people’s prolactin, and high prolactin can dull gh secretion or its action on igf1 through other mechanisms I can’t exactly remember.

I would expand your bloodwork out to other hormones if you haven’t after that. I would personally be worried about other potential health issues if igf1 is off like that. I don’t think 2 days a week of hgh would be enough to substantially diminish your igf1 like that but I guess it’s possible.

I absolutely wouldn’t be injecting this shit daily without knowing for sure what it is and what’s going on with my body. Don’t FAFO op,

 

[Mifcom89]

How many kits do you plan running? Idk this is a personal call ,

I got 8 vials left so 120iu till it rans out. At 2iu daily in the morning it would be 60 days so i dont even know if it would be worth it

Cutting hard will cause lower endogenous igf1 levels, but i dont know how that works with cjc.

Not a hard cut, 1600-1700 calories but at least 150g of protein

You been checked for pituitary or thyroid issues? Wouldn’t be shocked if DAC was revealing a previously unknown condition like hypothyroidism, which can blunt igf1. Do you have any other bloodwork? I’ve seen reports of DAC exploding people’s prolactin, and high prolactin can dull gh secretion or its action on igf1 through other mechanisms I can’t exactly remember.

I would expand your bloodwork out to other hormones if you haven’t after that. I would personally be worried about other potential health issues if igf1 is off like that. I don’t think 2 days a week of hgh would be enough to substantially diminish your igf1 like that but I guess it’s possible.

I absolutely wouldn’t be injecting this shit daily without knowing for sure what it is and what’s going on with my body. Don’t FAFO op,

Thanks. I dont really have signs of hypothyroidism, other blood values like liver enzymes were in range, but didnt test for thyroid.

 

[songsofpyramids]

Thanks. I dont really have signs of hypothyroidism, other blood values like liver enzymes were in range, but didnt test for thyroid.

Check prolactin as well. I’ve seen that get screwed up for people on DAC and cause issues. Also, with the hypothyroidism, you could be subclinical which would be enough to impact igf1 without causing obvious signs.

 

[Smokeythabear]

I ordered cjc dac from qsc in 2024 mid december, it came as red caps. Ive been using it twice weekly for some time, did a blood test and my igf1 came lower by 20%. Does anyone know why this could be? Im concerned its not cjc dac. Im on a cut right know, but not a crazy one(+150g protein, 2000 calories)

If you’re on an AI (or Primo) and your E2 is low, it can cause a reduction in IGF-1 with exogenous GH or GH secretagogues. What else are you running?

John Jewitt has a video on this.

 

[Mifcom89]

If you’re on an AI (or Primo) and your E2 is low, it can cause a reduction in IGF-1 with exogenous GH or GH secretagogues. What else are you running?

John Jewitt has a video on this.

not on any type of ai right now

e2 and test is all in normal range

 

[Mifcom89]

i did the bloods 1 week after my last cjc dac injection

igf1 is a long term marker and cjc dac has a longer halftime so it shouldnt drop

Its really weird

 

[dragonz]

Did you experience head flushing / high heart rate shortly after injecting DAC for the first time?

From my experience injecting 500 mcg, my heart rate spikes and head flushes for a few minutes shortly after injecting. This slowly diminishes the more times you inject. But the first ever injection definitely hit hard. It may vary per person though.

 

[Smokeythabear]

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not on any type of ai right now

e2 and test is all in normal range

Ignore the range. Did the E2 go down between the labs? Even a drop from 54 to 34 could effect it but still be “normal”

 

[Smokeythabear]

i did the bloods 1 week after my last cjc dac injection

igf1 is a long term marker and cjc dac has a longer halftime so it shouldnt drop

Its really weird

Yes the half-life is 5-8 days but there’s still diminishing effects. One week after stopping, your IGF-1 will likely have dropped from its peak by 10-30%, but not fully returned to baseline yet.

Time for the real exogenous GH anyway haha.

 

[songsofpyramids]

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Ignore the range. Did the E2 go down between the labs? Even a drop from 54 to 34 could effect it but still be “normal”

I agree. I would see if there were any shifts like that. Checking LH and FSH might be wise as well.

Could be bunk shit but I had a buddy run qsc dac with bloods that showed it doing its thing. Was last year but can’t remember when.

 

[Middus]

The Trials for CJC + dac was running between 4mg to as high 10mg weekly doses though. One needs to consider that part too.

 

[Mifcom89]

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Ignore the range. Did the E2 go down between the labs? Even a drop from 54 to 34 could effect it but still be “normal”

test is 550, e2 24