Do you plan to live on GLP?

I don’t know about the other’s but from what a read about tirz is that its good for not gaining the weight back fast compared to conventional quick weight loss methods. So thats a plus, maybe you could do it just 3 months every year if needed?

Or use the time on tirz to practice and establish better diet & lifestyle habits. GLP1s are like a bonus but you shouldn't stay on the same diet and sedentary lifestyle that got you fat in the first place.
 
I will defo run one as long until i reach my weight loss goals and reversed my Type 2 Diabetes, afterwards to prevent a crash i could imagine running low dose Tirza or Retra but mostly for stable glucose levels. So maybe for another 6-12 months or so. Stuff is already expensive as hell but who knows, maybe this changes within the next years and prices of 1mg drops do 8-9€ or so.

(Yes, i know there are chinese sources but the shipping, long waiting times, risks, lack of testing and communication is just not my thing.)
Dude... I pay less than 50 cents USD per mg from china.. Shipping is usually a few weeks. This last order is breaking a record at like 7 days. I just paid 230 for 600MG USD on a sale from SSA.
 
No. Waste of money. Not hard to diet, I like eating body building food, don’t ever want to eat fast food and bullshit no matter how often it is in my face and do cardio daily. If I want to eat sweets, god gave us fruit and 20g carbs of fruit is perfect. If my daughter or wife want to eat a donut ok who cares I’ll buy them some but I don’t need it. Same with going to a restaurant. I’ll just take my meal prep to the restaurant and they can have whatever. Do I really need a drug to say “I don’t need a cookie”? Probably not. Blood assay, A1C, blood glucose good, easy to gain weight and lose weight so why use more drugs to do things very easily done with my normal routine? test and gh year round + some other anabolics blasting is surely enough drugs
 
No. Waste of money. Not hard to diet, I like eating body building food, don’t ever want to eat fast food and bullshit no matter how often it is in my face and do cardio daily. If I want to eat sweets, god gave us fruit and 20g carbs of fruit is perfect. If my daughter or wife want to eat a donut ok who cares I’ll buy them some but I don’t need it. Same with going to a restaurant. I’ll just take my meal prep to the restaurant and they can have whatever. Do I really need a drug to say “I don’t need a cookie”? Probably not. Blood assay, A1C, blood glucose good, easy to gain weight and lose weight so why use more drugs to do things very easily done with my normal routine? test and gh year round + some other anabolics blasting is surely enough drugs
I’ll just take my meal prep to a restaurant lol stay home then
 
No. Waste of money. Not hard to diet, I like eating body building food, don’t ever want to eat fast food and bullshit no matter how often it is in my face and do cardio daily. If I want to eat sweets, god gave us fruit and 20g carbs of fruit is perfect. If my daughter or wife want to eat a donut ok who cares I’ll buy them some but I don’t need it. Same with going to a restaurant. I’ll just take my meal prep to the restaurant and they can have whatever. Do I really need a drug to say “I don’t need a cookie”? Probably not. Blood assay, A1C, blood glucose good, easy to gain weight and lose weight so why use more drugs to do things very easily done with my normal routine? test and gh year round + some other anabolics blasting is surely enough drugs
I agree, most people take it because of the appetite suppression and it makes it easier. although it isnt useless and im taking a moderate dosage of 5mg tirzepatide probably gonna look into reta instead for all the benefits. Theres nice benefits way beyond the appetite suppresion
 
I agree, most people take it because of the appetite suppression and it makes it easier. although it isnt useless and im taking a moderate dosage of 5mg tirzepatide probably gonna look into reta instead for all the benefits. Theres nice benefits way beyond the appetite suppresion
Yeah for sure, I agree there are benefits, and I know guys who take it for them, not even the appetite suppression and have nothing against it. No judgement for either group especially if they appetite suppression people just want to be healthy. More power to them. I just don’t want to do any more injections, it’s enough as it is
 
Yeah for sure, I agree there are benefits, and I know guys who take it for them, not even the appetite suppression and have nothing against it. No judgement for either group especially if they appetite suppression people just want to be healthy. More power to them. I just don’t want to do any more injections, it’s enough as it is
yeah the subq inject 1x frequency really isnt that bad tho. but i totally have something against these fat americans with no appetite control. complete goes against training principles and building discipline! What is nice i've noticed about it is when i first jumped on tren after few months my heart was beating hard enough so i could hear it and its been there ever since and only become worse with few more tren cycles. now that i've jumped on glp1 even with telsmiratan and daily fasted cardio to no prevail i finally cant feel my chest beating so hard in the nights everytime im trying to sleep it annoys me. its super beneficial for heart health i feel like.
 
Love the people in here who attribute overweight to a moral failure. The food in our world has never been more available, cheaper, more tasty, and less useful to our bodies.

People are using these drugs to take control of some of that. Its literally no different than using any of the drugs lots of us use on here, its a mission, a purpose. I'm on TRT for the rest of my life and thats more of a pain in the ass than a GLP/GIP once or twice a week and the sides are way worse.

Save your hate for the shitty chinese vendors, people trying to better themselves with drugs are here for the same reason you are.
 
Love the people in here who attribute overweight to a moral failure. The food in our world has never been more available, cheaper, more tasty, and less useful to our bodies.

People are using these drugs to take control of some of that. Its literally no different than using any of the drugs lots of us use on here, its a mission, a purpose. I'm on TRT for the rest of my life and thats more of a pain in the ass than a GLP/GIP once or twice a week and the sides are way worse.

Save your hate for the shitty chinese vendors, people trying to better themselves with drugs are here for the same reason you are.
Exactly this!! I came from the side of being overweight ("moral failure"), started on Glps discovered fitness again. This led me to the world of anabolics, I became more open-minded, found this site for honest, lively discussion on the subject. I am a gym rat now, lifting regularly eating healthy but not "fat" anymore. Sorry I didn't get there torturing myself.
 
. This led me to the world of anabolics, I became more open-minded, found this site for honest, lively discussion on the subject. I am a gym rat now, lifting regularly eating healthy but not "fat" anymore. Sorry I didn't get there torturing myself.

Crazy how self control and jogging is considered torture nowadays.

I heard those techniques were created by the Viet cong and perfected in Guantanamo
 
Crazy how self control and jogging is considered torture nowadays.

I heard those techniques were created by the Viet cong and perfected in Guantanamo
they're making up a new mental disease for their uncontrollable will to put the fork down without drugs.

If you dont wanna look like peter griffin i understand you're using glp-1s to change but this aint nothing special you just lack willpower to do it without.
 
Crazy how self control and jogging is considered torture nowadays.

I heard those techniques were created by the Viet cong and perfected in Guantanamo

they're making up a new mental disease for their uncontrollable will to put the fork down without drugs.

If you dont wanna look like peter griffin i understand you're using glp-1s to change but this aint nothing special you just lack willpower to do it without.
I understand that both of you don't get it, in the face of people trying to explain to you to the contrary, trying to evoke some empathy or emotion for a lived experience different than your own. I hope that your continued ignorance on the subject will keep you fulfilled and satisfied forever.

Not everyone is just of weak moral character. Our food is trash and the public is very poorly educated.
 
I understand that both of you don't get it, in the face of people trying to explain to you to the contrary, trying to evoke some empathy or emotion for a lived experience different than your own. I hope that your continued ignorance on the subject will keep you fulfilled and satisfied forever.

Not everyone is just of weak moral character. Our food is trash and the public is very poorly educated.

No I get it bro, and like I said before more power to people to using it to get healthy. I have nothing against it.
Categorizing maintaining a healthy weight as torture is silly and counterproductive to me. Taking care of yourself can and should be an enjoyable process.

outside of people who live in food swamps/deserts with a lack of transportation or access to a grocery store, or children who are fed by parents incorrectly there is a level of personal failure involved. The people who do not fall into that camp should be self aware enough and do have enough privilege to take accountability. If people actually lack the financial basis or education to provide a healthy diet can those people really be expected to afford weight loss drugs or have the education to use such drugs?

We live in a world that is increasingly online and access to information is very high. An adult who can frequent steroid forums and read about glps should be able to do a diet…

I understand the difficulty as I’ve been obese myself as an adult and as a child was close to developing diabetes. Again while I appreciate the fact that people are getting healthy with these compounds the ones who actually have access to food (financially) claiming it’s not some kind of personal failure that got them there is misguided imo. People need to know their flaws to address them and grow. There’s no shame in this.

On food quality, America and the west have much higher food quality standards than other countries. Idk where you live but in some places food is actually far worse. Where I live for example many foods have pesticides that use teratogens and EDCs so women have a higher rate of reproductive problems. if you’re from the west complaining about this stuff you need a reality check because the food is much safer and healthier to consume based on banned additives/pesticides etc that are still widely used in some places in Asia, the Middle East and the global south.
 
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