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[unclebob]

Post that on bbgate

Thinking it was bodybuilding related I looked.........I feel hella dirty now lol

 

[TurboJet]

Thinking it was bodybuilding related I looked.........I feel hella dirty now lol

Always use caution on the web LoL I never heard of it either and went there too.

On the bright side it was some fucked up shit like FtM porn or beastiality!

 

[unclebob]

Always use caution on the web LoL I never heard of it either and went there too.

On the bright side it was some fucked up shit like FtM porn or beastiality!

Proton is ALWAYS running lol.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

Figured I'd drop this here

This is a official patent to purify tren and acheive HPLC grade 99% pure tren. The process is well documented.

As far as I know this is the absolute best way to have high quality, pure, analytical grade tren ace.


View: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17PfCHMgqeXD0eHWv1NMpYKE0MfvYOZ5J/view?usp=drivesdk



So for future reference this will be my next method then once done I'll send a sample to jano to have more credit on the process. The process is exactly the same as I did before only using IPA and N- hexane as the 2nd solvent for crashing.

Acetone and distilled water works but to get to that magic 99% pure number and have high yeild. It must be IPA.

 

[glp1user]

decent write up. I would suggest drying under vacuum after you recrystallize. goal is to remove as much residual solvent as possible.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

decent write up. I would suggest drying under vacuum after you recrystallize. goal is to remove as much residual solvent as possible.

A lot of this is under the assumption you would do this properly in the first place. Lots can be done with air drying and a good molecular sieve and a bit if warm arm though.

 

[Mac81]

Thinking it was bodybuilding related I looked.........I feel hella dirty now lol

Lmao

 

[Mac81]

A lot of this is under the assumption you would do this properly in the first place. Lots can be done with air drying and a good molecular sieve and a bit if warm arm though.

Yeah you definitely don't need a vacuum, I mean you can do it that way, If you're trying to speed up the process, but generally what you're doing none of its intended to be done fast, and there's absolutely no way a solvent like that will remain in the product, not if you let it lay out to dry for any amount of time, It can't help but remove itself, even the slightest amount of heat added will quadruple the effect as well, A simple heat lamp will drive the solvent out of it incredibly fast

 

[Mac81]

Figured I'd drop this here

This is a official patent to purify tren and acheive HPLC grade 99% pure tren. The process is well documented.

As far as I know this is the absolute best way to have high quality, pure, analytical grade tren ace.


View: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17PfCHMgqeXD0eHWv1NMpYKE0MfvYOZ5J/view?usp=drivesdk



So for future reference this will be my next method then once done I'll send a sample to jano to have more credit on the process. The process is exactly the same as I did before only using IPA and N- hexane as the 2nd solvent for crashing.

Acetone and distilled water works but to get to that magic 99% pure number and have high yeild. It must be IPA.

I use a lot of IPA on my 3D printer, that shit evaporates so fast, It's hard to work with sometimes, I use it to pull the glue off my bed, and if it's even slightly warm it will literally boil off faster than I can take a rag and wipe it off

 

[Mac81]

Are you sure about the enanthate version yet? I just grabbed a vacuum filter setup,but I haven't gotten the solvent yet.. are you sure about hexane? I noticed with the acetate, every method relied on methylene chloride except the n-heptane method. Just curious if you collected anymore info on the enanthate

 

[bighunanballs]

• Remove the 12% junk that would have made your oil cloudy, painful, or difficult to sterilize

I think we're gonna find that trying to purify these hormones in this manner.might be an exercise in futility. They might contain trace amounts of "junk" but I'm guessing the majority of non pure elements are gonna be isomers that will crash out and crystalize right along the target compound. These chemicals probably need some form of differing vacuum distillation techniques mixed with targeted Liquid-Liquid chromatography using various organic solvents depending on the specific hormone raw.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

I think we're gonna find that trying to purify these hormones in this manner.might be an exercise in futility. They might contain trace amounts of "junk" but I'm guessing the majority of non pure elements are gonna be isomers that will crash out and crystalize right along the target compound. These chemicals probably need some form of differing vacuum distillation techniques mixed with targeted Liquid-Liquid chromatography using various organic solvents depending on the specific hormone raw.

View: https://youtu.be/04HWovMzkAk

No. This is simple vacuum filtration recrystallaization

Recrystallization remains the most straightforward and effective method to purify raw hormone powders when executed properly. One well-executed recrystallization pass will clean up the majority of typical contaminants
.. assuming the solvent is correctly dried, the process temperature is controlled, and all glassware is properly prepared.

I do not use typical "brew head" lab practices. Instead, I ensure glassware cleanliness with the following protocol: triple acetone wash, a thorough neutral detergent wash, triple distilled water rinse, followed by a final acetone rinse to fully dry the surfaces. This level of preparation removes virtually all surface contaminants and ensures that the recrystallization environment does not introduce new impurities.

Achieving 95%+ purity is highly attainable under these conditions. It does not require chromatography or vacuum distillation unless the raw material is catastrophically contaminated or contains high concentrations of inseparable isomers ( rare and still workable)

Pushing purity above 98–99% may require multiple recrystallization cycles and tighter thermal control, but it is still achievable without advanced techniques.




View: https://youtu.be/T2Z8tFXYpI8



View: https://youtu.be/qJLvB6NFnoA

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

I think we're gonna find that trying to purify these hormones in this manner.might be an exercise in futility. They might contain trace amounts of "junk" but I'm guessing the majority of non pure elements are gonna be isomers that will crash out and crystalize right along the target compound. These chemicals probably need some form of differing vacuum distillation techniques mixed with targeted Liquid-Liquid chromatography using various organic solvents depending on the specific hormone raw.

This process will not effectively remove structurally similar compounds, such as trenbolone base or trenbolone acetate, if they are present. However, that does not mean recrystallization is without value for contaminated or "dirty" raws.

The context of this thread originates from cases where people were receiving raws with purities as low as 27%. In those situations, even partial purification can recover significant usable material instead of discarding the batch entirely.

To maximize selectivity during recrystallization, the cooling phase must be extremely slow. Additionally, introducing a seed crystal of the desired compound provides a lattice template, encouraging correct crystal formation.

A well-formed crystal lattice inherently tends to exclude impurities during growth. Proper lattice propagation mechanically rejects contaminants at the molecular level, improving overall purity without needing advanced separation methods.

 

[bighunanballs]

Ya we used this simple method a decade ago. Unfortunately it typically didint work beyond gaining less than 1% maybe in purity, since most of the impurities we see are isomers of the target compound and they recrystallize right along side the target compound.

yes, isomers can recrystallize along with the target hormone, especially if their chemical structure and solubility are very similar.


Let me explain a little:

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In purification by recrystallization:

• You separate based on solubility differences.
• If you have different molecules that have very different shapes or polarity, they usually stay dissolved and don't crystallize together.
• But if you have isomers — meaning molecules that have the same molecular formula but slightly different structure (like stereoisomers or positional isomers) — their solubility is often very similar.
• So, they tend to co-crystallize (come out together) unless you use a very selective solvent or multi-step purification.

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Specifically for hormone raws (like testosterone):

• If the impurity is something like epitestosterone (which is a natural isomer of testosterone), it will likely recrystallize along with testosterone during simple ethanol recrystallization.
• If the impurity is a different steroid altogether (different ester, different functional groups), it may stay dissolved or separate better.
• Enantiomers (mirror images) — like D-isomers vs L-isomers — can't be separated by normal recrystallization unless a chiral agent is used (that's much more complex).

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Bottom line:

• Recrystallization alone usually does NOT remove isomers very effectively.
• It mainly removes non-isomeric impurities — like solvents, oils, byproducts, degradation products, etc.
• To separate isomers properly, you would need more advanced methods like chromatography (HPLC, column chromatography) or chiral separation techniques.

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Example:

• If your testosterone powder had a little epitestosterone mixed in, recrystallizing it with ethanol would NOT fully purify it from the epitestosterone.
• But if the contamination was something like residual solvents, fats, colored junk — ethanol recrystallization would clean it up nicely.

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Would you want me to sketch out a simple two-pass recrystallization method too? It can improve purity even if you can't fully separate isomers.
(Also — are you wondering about isomers because you're worried about contaminated raws?)

 

[bighunanballs]

This process will not effectively remove structurally similar compounds, such as trenbolone base or trenbolone acetate, if they are present. However, that does not mean recrystallization is without value for contaminated or "dirty" raws.

The context of this thread originates from cases where people were receiving raws with purities as low as 27%. In those situations, even partial purification can recover significant usable material instead of discarding the batch entirely.

To maximize selectivity during recrystallization, the cooling phase must be extremely slow. Additionally, introducing a seed crystal of the desired compound provides a lattice template, encouraging correct crystal formation.

A well-formed crystal lattice inherently tends to exclude impurities during growth. Proper lattice propagation mechanically rejects contaminants at the molecular level, improving overall purity without needing advanced separation methods.

I would be curious to see how much in these current generation chinese raws contain "oils, fillers, coloring, crud" vs "isomers and enantiomers". If we were seeing raw sources "cut down" raws with like baking soda or some kind of cutting agents like a street crackhead might I'd say ya this would work beautifully

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

Ya we used this simple method a decade ago. Unfortunately it typically didint work beyond gaining less than 1% maybe in purity, since most of the impurities we see are isomers of the target compound and they recrystallize right along side the target compound.

Even if a first pass only gets you 70–80% purity, second and third passes exponentially improve purity because remaining impurities are diluted each cycle.
(Mathematically, if 1st pass leaves 20% impurity, and second pass only crystallizes 80% pure again, your remaining impurity drops dramatically with each round.)




Introducing a tiny seed crystal forces the system to build "good" crystal structure around that seed.. forcing impurities to stay in solution rather than integrating.
This has been experimentally shown to massively improve final purity even in high-impurity starting conditions.


Crystals form by lowest Gibbs free energy pathways.
Mixed crystals (target + random impurity) are energetically unfavorable unless the molecules are almost identical. That means, over time and with slow cooling, the lattice “self-cleans” even without active intervention.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

I would be curious to see how much in these current generation chinese raws contain "oils, fillers, coloring, crud" vs "isomers and enantiomers". If we were seeing raw sources "cut down" raws with like baking soda or some kind of cutting agents like a street crackhead might I'd say ya this would work beautifully

honestly that kind of assumes these raws are being made under real lab-grade conditions.
That used to be more true a few years back, but in 2025? That’s not the case anymore.

Since China cracked down and made raw production and export illegal, most of the production moved underground.
We're talking basement labs, unregulated, rushed processes, and a lot of corners being cut just to get anything out the door.



A lot of these raws aren’t coming from the original pharmaceutical-grade factories anymore.

They’re being made in hidden setups with less control over synthesis, workup, purification, and drying.

Even “bigger” suppliers like CNRAWs, AnaRAWs, etc., are struggling because the old mainframe plants either shut down, splintered, or went deep underground.

These new underground labs are using whatever they can to move product... solvents that aren’t fully evaporated, incomplete reactions, unfiltered side products, polymerized junk, degradation, etc.


Actual lab tests from 2023–2025 show massive variance:

Some raws tested 20–30% purity, loaded with unknown peaks on HPLC.

Common findings included oils, solvents, coloring agents, oxidized byproducts, incomplete esters, even proteins from bad filtration techniques.

Very little evidence of "clean" isomeric contamination

Look at jano and his reports on 'fake raws being more and more common now.

This includes Raw's that are being cut with absolute bullcrap. ....

Besides I've already been doing this with my supply so far and I feel far more comfortable running a pass or two over it. Especially when the raws are coming out clean. Smell free and beautiful crystal.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

Are you sure about the enanthate version yet? I just grabbed a vacuum filter setup,but I haven't gotten the solvent yet.. are you sure about hexane? I noticed with the acetate, every method relied on methylene chloride except the n-heptane method. Just curious if you collected anymore info on the enanthate

I'll look into it. I'll share here to make sure. Give me a few.

 

[bighunanballs]

honestly that kind of assumes these raws are being made under real lab-grade conditions.
That used to be more true a few years back, but in 2025? That’s not the case anymore.

Since China cracked down and made raw production and export illegal, most of the production moved underground.
We're talking basement labs, unregulated, rushed processes, and a lot of corners being cut just to get anything out the door.



A lot of these raws aren’t coming from the original pharmaceutical-grade factories anymore.

They’re being made in hidden setups with less control over synthesis, workup, purification, and drying.

Even “bigger” suppliers like CNRAWs, AnaRAWs, etc., are struggling because the old mainframe plants either shut down, splintered, or went deep underground.

These new underground labs are using whatever they can to move product... solvents that aren’t fully evaporated, incomplete reactions, unfiltered side products, polymerized junk, degradation, etc.


Actual lab tests from 2023–2025 show massive variance:

Some raws tested 20–30% purity, loaded with unknown peaks on HPLC.

Common findings included oils, solvents, coloring agents, oxidized byproducts, incomplete esters, even proteins from bad filtration techniques.

Very little evidence of "clean" isomeric contamination

Look at jano and his reports on 'fake raws being more and more common now.

This includes Raw's that are being cut with absolute bullcrap. .....

Ya I don't know enough about the situation in China now with the labs. I was speaking more in regards to pre-shutdown operations. I think this lab shutdown turmoil will pass eventually and the big guys will start pumping stuff out again. In regards to Chinese basement labs producing raws, if that's truly accurate then ya this recrystallization method would clean stuff up. If we're talking 89-93% raws from a few months ago I'd say it's not gonna help much. I'm not the brightest though so I'd love to see folks try it out and report back.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

I use a lot of IPA on my 3D printer, that shit evaporates so fast, It's hard to work with sometimes, I use it to pull the glue off my bed, and if it's even slightly warm it will literally boil off faster than I can take a rag and wipe it off

IPA specially worked well on tren ace based on the european patent I read. It forms strong hexgonal crystal formation that also makes the grade quite high.

I just know when a ester is longer it requires a more careful approach its doable. Won't be hard.

Ya I don't know enough about the situation in China now with the labs. I was speaking more in regards to pre-shutdown operations. I think this lab shutdown turmoil will pass eventually and the big guys will start pumping stuff out again. In regards to Chinese basement labs producing raws, if that's truly accurate then ya this recrystallization method would clean stuff up. If we're talking 89-93% raws from a few months ago I'd say it's not gonna help much. I'm not the brightest though so I'd love to see folks try it out and report back.

Absolutely. For example QSC raws was great stuff. Literally no reason to purify them really. This is just under the assumption you got some pretty degraded crap on your hands and throw it away or recover something worth using. I'd say 20% to 80% might be a good range for worth it level

85% to 90% to 98% pure If you wanna be a purist which I absolutely want for myself. Looking into getting a used HPLC machine and a lot of TLC for my own personal use. That's going to be a good project to work on.

Just to note it your supply ever becomes degraded somehow. A pass of this will clean it up and get you back to fresh again. Sounds like a nice tradeoff to me.